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"Now that a sound and defensible system is in place, maybe Tim Finchem will show some courage and business sense."

Outside of some of Darwin's rants on the topic, Links Magazine's George Peper pens the best slow play column I've read in a long time, tackling all of the key points and asking all of the right questions. He explains the USGA's promising new pace of play, something I wrote about for the L.A. Times earlier this year (naturally, it's disappeared from their archives!).

Thankfully George presents it here much better than I did, then takes it a step further and questions why this has not been implemented already.

OK, the system isn’t perfect. So what? Golf isn’t an exact science. In fact, it’s not a science at all, despite the proclivity of some tour players to treat each shot as an exhaustive experiment in physics, geometry, agronomy, meteorology, kinesthetics and psychology. Say the USGA comes down hard on a few players. What’s the downside? A whine or two from the likes of Ben Crane? I suspect they’d be drowned out by the chorus of approval from their peers. Besides, the system has a built-in appeals process, so every accused offender has the opportunity for a postround hearing.

Moreover, when it comes to pace of play, there is no reason for the USGA or R&A to be as fearful as they are of regulating equipment—imposing a limit on time will not bring a billion-dollar lawsuit from Rolex. Nor can they hide behind the other rationale they’ve used on equipment—that most amateur golfers want to keep the status quo. Most amateurs may want to hit the ball longer, but they don’t want to stay on the course longer.

Still the sense is that the USGA is taking the same timid stance as they have on the question of throttling back the golf ball: Let the PGA Tour take the lead.

Fine. Now that a sound and defensible system is in place, maybe Tim Finchem will show some courage and business sense. Seven years ago, the commissioner challenged the game’s movers and shakers to transform golf into America’s No. 1 spectator sport. Instead, television ratings are down and golf participation over the past decade has been flat at best. One big reason: Golf is slow, both playing and watching.

I remain convinced that if the PGA Tour's VP's and players ever paid to go to one of their events and tried to spectate, they would quickly launch an emergency initiative to do something about pace of play.  

Posted on Nov 25, 2007 at 07:17PM by Registered CommenterGeoff in | Comments32 Comments

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I'll believe it when I see it. I seem to recall a long discussion on this topic here a few months back. It's easy to talk about getting tough on slow play, but it's much harder to really come down on these guys when a national open title is at stake. At least many people seem to think so.

Golf has always been a sport that is incredibly boring on TV, unless you are an avid player, and then you seem to be able to tolerate almost anything. The comment about the players treating "each shot as an exhaustive experiment in physics, geometry, agronomy, meteorology, kinesthetics and psychology" is really funny.
11.25.2007 | Unregistered CommenterGraham Lees
As a chop with delusions of grandeur I play a fair # of local tournaments. The CDGA has a fabulous series of better ball of pairs events, which often are held on fabulous local private courses. The only problem is that they are generally death marches, and 5hour rounds are not unusual. On our Weekly Challenge Golf Tour we play ready golf. Even if someone in my group is slow, when I get to my ball I hit (and am required to do so). We have rangers and electronic timers with each group -- our tournament foursomes generally get around between 4:12 and 4:25, depending upon the course and the difficulty of the setup. This is for players from scratch to 30 handicaps.

5 hour threesomes in the U.S. Open are a pathetic joke, a disgrace.
11.26.2007 | Unregistered CommenterSmolmania
I agree completely that golf should be lots faster. I think it would be great to make PGA players play fast, but also, I cannot for the life of me understand why the so-called high end daily fee courses don't demand fast play from those pay big $$ to play. My son caddied at TPC Sawgrass for a few months in the summer and said it is excruciatingly slow (not less than 5 hours in the heat) for everyone but the course would not insist on fast play - no marshalls etc. They kinda hinted that the caddies should try to speed things up, but Bob learned a valuable economic lesson by chivvying the players on the course and then wondering why he got a lousy tip.

Taking an hour out of the time of play would free up about two hours of tee times - 48 extra players at more than $200 per. Obviously, those idiots who own golf courses think they will lose more players by making them play fast than they will make up by providing fast golf. Idiots.

I have turned down the many opportunities to pay $450 to stand around for 5 & 1/2 hours at Pebble
11.26.2007 | Unregistered CommenterJackM
While Mr. Peper's example of his pace of play at the Old Course was very good, let me shed some light on the reality of the situation. If, it had a been a US Open or a PGA Tour event, there would have been other groups teeing off on #10. Given 13 groups with 10 minute intervals, the 10th tee would not have been clear until 9 AM. So, no matter how fast he played, he would not have been able to make the turn before then and would have been behind the other half of the field the rest of the way to the house.

This year at Oakmont, I was the walking official with the first group of #1 on Friday. We were 5 minutes over the prescribed time leaving #6 and were put on the clock immediately. We made the turn 2 minutes over time, but the last group off #10 was still in the fairway. So, because of 13 groups with 11 minute intervals and a hard starting hole we were back in position and waited the rest of the round on the group in front of us. No matter how fast we played, we couldn't have played 18 holes any faster. The group could have played slower but by putting them on the clock, they were able to be at #10 in position with the other side.

Peper fails to point out that the USGA's new pace of play system and the similar ones used by regional associations and the AJGA still give players 4:20 to 4:30 to play 18 holes in groups of 3.
11.26.2007 | Unregistered CommenterJohnV
Slow Play, "Let the PGA Tour take the lead"??

Aaahhh, two-somes on the PGA Tour before urethane distance balls took less than three and a half hours, today with all the great advances in technology and the super conditioning of professional golfers those same weekend pairings now average four plus hours.

As a resident of Houston I ventured over to a second stage round of Q-school, the round lasted almost six hours. The look on Bill Glassons face soke volumes, Tour veteran participating in a batan death march. Poor choice for a discription, but, this was not Tour level golf for sure. Veterans forced to compete under mini-tour pace of play guidelines. In truth it should be the other way around, mini-tour players should be forced to compete under PGA Tour pace of play rules, if they can't keep up they certainly shouldn't be on tour (Ben Crane). Pace of play is part of the test, or it should be, golf on tv has become stagnant in terms of revelant, its become slower to watch than baseball.

I asked a Tour rules official why the round took almost six hours, "we don't time players during Q-school".

Maybe its TIME they did.
11.26.2007 | Unregistered CommenterNASA Scientist
I would like to repeat, for the umpteenth time, my own anecdote about slow play on the PGA Tour. I was gallerying the Par-5 13th hole at Warwick Hills. It is preceded by a short Par 4. As the day progressed, there was a backup of 2, 3 and sometimes 4 groups on the tee, as the hole played as a virtual Par 4. I walked out to the landing area, and near the gallery ropes were three tour officials earnestly talking into their walkie-talkies, about the delay and the backup. One of the officials was Slugger White, who, after taking stock of the situation said to his fellow officials, "The damn ball goes too far." That seemed simple and logical enough to me.
11.26.2007 | Unregistered CommenterChuck
Man. First off, I feel bad for Ben Crane...if only because his name comes up every single time slow play is mentioned. Believe me, I know he earned it - nobody's earned it more than he has. But the poor guy's got to be on a suicide watch by now.

That said, Slugger's right - it's the equipment, baby. We saw it at golf school in our tournaments...three groups on every par five, tee, fairway and green, 'cause these guys can go at every par five in two...and have to to post a decent score. Our head instructor would look at it, laugh and say "That's forty minutes, right there..."

(which is why I'd ask to be the rabbit and get done in under three :)
11.26.2007 | Unregistered CommenterReverendTMac
It still confuses me as to why the USGA waives the rules of golf in its championship. The rules say to play without undue delay. Have a pace of play official on each hole. Any player who unduly delays play gets penalized. yes, that means O'Hair gets two strokes after taking forever on his first putt and gets DQ'd ont he second hole for lining up the alignment line for 12 minutes. Penalizing all players in a group is sickening and is not golf. Why should a fast player get a penalty when all he did was wait for a slow player? Forget appeals, he should not be penalized at all, and one stroke is inadequate for a slow player. Also, since it is a rule, fast players should simply start calling penalties on the slow players. That modest proposal would get things moving.

11.26.2007 | Unregistered CommenterJPB
Unless I'm missing something, the fact that everybody can reach par-5s in two should speed play, not slow it down. If they're all par-4s, why would they play differently from par-4s? (One fewer pre-shot routine.) The problem, I'd guess, is that people are MISSING the greens, not hitting them, and adding the time for the third shot anyway after waiting. (Hard to believe they're missing the greens with these balls that all go so straight, but that's another argument.)

Distance may exacerbate the problem, but it isn't the problem -- eternal preshot routines on full shots and infinitesimal calibrations on the greens are the problem. Like Soylent Green, "it's people."

And I don't believe for a second that slow play on TV has any effect on ratings. (Except that slow play on our courses, resulting from what people see on TV, drives people away from the game, and makes them less likely to watch on TV -- an extremely indirect effect at best.)
11.26.2007 | Unregistered Commenterjneu
At my old club in Denver, each tee time (9:10, say, or 10:20) had its own card that went next to a clock on each cart. The card had a time for each hole (ie for the 9:10 tee time you should be on the 11th teebox at 11:30 or the 16th teebox at 12:18). We knew on each teebox if we were out of position. The cart guys recorded when each foursome completed their round and if we were 10 minutes late, we got a letter from the pro. Two letters and you lost some guest privliges. All members were extremely cognizant of the need to play quickly. And we all knew that a round would never take more than 4 hours and 15 minutes. Ever.

11.26.2007 | Unregistered CommenterJackM
Can't remember where it was, but I played one daily-fee course somewhere that had clocks posted at every third tee or so. The clocks were set back so that the time they showed reflected your original tee time -- a pretty stark reminder that you were falling behind.

Slow play's a scourge and must be eliminated. It helps when, as at the Old Course, the next tee isn't two housing developments away from the previous green.
11.26.2007 | Unregistered Commenterjneu
Yes, I love that bit with the clocks set back as a pace of play reminder. It might not be something for the Tour, and it might be merely an eyesore at ANGC, or the Old Course or Pine Valley, but for a daily fee course where pace of play is as big a factor as the weather in deciding whether or not to play at all; well, then I think it is a very practical idea.

11.26.2007 | Unregistered CommenterChuck
I don't get out much anymore, but when I did attend PGA Tour events, I just made sure I had a good buzz goin'.
11.26.2007 | Unregistered CommenterAunt Blabbie
A few things I'm sure of:

1. The pros have caused the slow play problem, just as Peper says in his article.

2. Fixing it will be darn near impossible, at least with respect to the method of corollaries to the rules, sanctions, penalties, etc.

The reasons have been stated here before. There's lots at stake...the tour will only go so far in rushing Tiger Woods, or even Cameron Beckman...it's hard to come up with a reasonable standard for pace of play and even harder to come up with reasonable penalties and enforcement.

But I really wish they could do it.

Slow play is analagous to batters in baseball stepping out of the box after every pitch to fix their batting gloves, walk around, pull their crotch, etc.

In baseball, this stuff may help the batter by throwing the pitcher's rhythm off. But everybody does it, so it helps/hurts all competitors equally, while also being rude to fans.

In golf, I am sure that the player gets a benefit from sweating every detail, but since everybody does it, nobody gets a relative advantage, and fans and the rest of the golf world have to suffer through all of this crap.

If possible, they should, somehow, tell these guys to quit farting around and just play golf.
11.26.2007 | Unregistered CommenterCharles R. Butler
Jneu - I think it slows down play as the second group can't hit their second shots when they arrive at their drives. Most of those second shots won't hit the green, so players will still be getting on in three. The third group can't tee off until the second group hits its second shots. In my experience, short par 5s do slow things down.
11.26.2007 | Unregistered CommenterTighthead
Slow play started with the pros and has metastasized into the amateur ranks with the help of the golf cart, modern golf course design and the general decline in civility in American society. Golf was a better game when the equipment stunk and fewer people played (i.e. pre-1990). In America, the sub-four-hour round is now the province of the lucky few who belong to elite clubs without carts and no tolerance for slow play.
11.26.2007 | Unregistered Commenterchema
Chema: "Metastasized"

Are you a sawbones?
11.26.2007 | Unregistered CommenterCharles R. Butler
At Bethpage we always try to tee off by 8am at the latest lest we have a 6 hour round.

I once spoke with Dave Catalano (he runs the park) about the slow play issue and he said he was fully prepared to start taking people off the golf course if they couldn't stay in position...

...but the elected official over the parks at the time (a woman, drawing a blank on her name) wouldn't allow it, she was worried about the political fallout.

No matter where you turn, nobody wants to take responsibility.

ES
11.26.2007 | Unregistered CommenterEric Stratton
Charles: Not an MD, just watched a lot of St. Elsehwere as a kid.

ES: I think it was Bernadette Castro. I will refrain from making gratuitous jokes about putting a woman in charge of pace of play.
11.26.2007 | Unregistered Commenterchema
Metastasized is the correct diagnosis, Dr. chema.

Everybody must have his favorite slow-play story. Mine is years ago, on the University of Minnesota golf course (a public course), eighth hole, a difficult uphill par 3. My group had been chafing behind a very slow group of students for several holes. As we stood on the tee, they suddenly waved us to hit! -- and then all four of them walked onto the green and stood next to the pin (true, it was the safest place on the course with my group on the tee, but man, were we mad!). One of them helpfully put his hand on the flagstick, I guess in case one of us had a shot rolling to the pin so he could pull it and save us a penalty according to his understanding of the rules of golf. My buddies and I just stood there dumbfounded for a few seconds -- and then starting screaming at them. Only later did we think that, as university employees, we had probably broken about fifty rules -- you don't offend the customers (students) in this day and age.

Until public course players, especially younger ones, are better educated in golf etiquette, slow play is here to stay. And what they learn watching golf on TV only hurts the cause.
11.26.2007 | Unregistered CommenterPhilip
Philip's observation about younger golfers being uneducated as to etiquette is accurate, and I wonder if maybe our "service" economy is at fault, a little. We are taught in today's economy that the customer is always right, don't accept no for an answer, everything should be given to you NOW and at your convenience, etc. So they bristle when it's suggested that they put their own selfish motives aside and move their a**es...they're not the only people on the course.
11.26.2007 | Unregistered CommenterCharles R. Butler
Everyone who tees of at St Andrews Old Course gets a package of stuff, including a ball marker with 3.57 written on it. They don't make a point of telling you what it means. But the penny does drop. Take longer than 3.57 hours and you're too slow. But, the staff also acknowledge they can't get 120 pound off everyone and then hurry them up too much.

My course in Melbourne bulldozed its short (driveable) par 4 first hole as 'the field wasn't getting away quick enough'. I think blaming the course for slow play is a bizarre concept. I think it's the humans, not the courses, that are the problem - the 'puttee', not the putter.

11.26.2007 | Unregistered CommenterPickworth
A driveable par-4 would be a great way to start, so long as the course was willing to send people out at 12+ minute intervals. Slow, rude golfers are a big problem, but so are courses that shove too many people onto them. I've been yelled at by a starter on an NYC muni for not teeing off on a par-4 when there were two other groups already playing the hole. And at one Long Island daily-fee, a "ranger" told us we had to pick up our pace, as we reached the tee of a par-5 where there were THREE active groups on the hole. It's a wonder any of us still play the game. (As Yogi said, It's so crowded nobody goes there.)

11.26.2007 | Unregistered Commenterjneu
2nd stage Q-School TPC Craig Ranch, played in threesomes. I talked to a tour vet, whom happens to really like wine (hint)-the pace of play was 5 hrs plus. Yet the real shocker, was the tour doesn't care, doesn't enforce with strokes, its just part of the deal.
11.26.2007 | Unregistered CommenterJIm
As far as the knowledge of golf etiquette goes, Geoff has written about one of the problems; the decline and fall of caddy programs.

With caddies, people walk more, lose fewer balls, ramble around less, etc. they probably play faster.

At the same time, with active caddy programs, whole generations of young players would be raised on the game in good venues. (Private clubs may be bastions of social snobbery, but they are usually also solid training grounds for better play and better etiquette on the golf course.)
It is true; nowadays, more and more young players learn the game by watching tv. And on tv, everybody (tour pros and, heaven forbid, Big Break contestants for the Gen-Y contingent) stands over a shot for two minutes and looks at putts from four sides. It would be infinitely better if those young people were learning the game from good recreational players who want to finish in less than four hours.
11.27.2007 | Unregistered CommenterChuck
Beaman never had a problem with slow play as Commissioner, maybe in part because he knew what it felt like to complete 18 holes in under 4 hours.
11.27.2007 | Unregistered CommenterJD
Chuck, you are right, in my view. But it seems hopeless to me. As we have discussed in other posts, many clubs today are barely holding on financially. At my (low-end) club, we have more members trying to sell than we have people who want to join. Proposing a caddy program that would (conservatively) raise the cost of golf several hundred dollars a month for most members would get our board of directors impeached, if not lynched. The relatively few new members we get are people who have decided to forgo upper-end daily fee courses to join; there are no caddies at those courses; if we imposed caddies and thereby raised the effective cost of membership, they would not join. Except at elite clubs where members are driven by noblesse oblige rather than dollars and cents, caddy programs are a nonstarter.
11.27.2007 | Unregistered CommenterPhilip
This comment addresses slow play at upscale, expensive daily-fee and resort courses. The problem, as I see it, is that many of the golfers who are willing and able to play these courses have more money than golf skills or etiquette. They figure if they pay $125-$300 for a round of golf and have lots of logo shirts, they are real players (nevermind the 28 hcap). They play the blue tees, smoke cigars and go for it over water - 3 times. And insist on putting out for 9.

Again, resorts and the Troon Norths of the world are unwilling to challenge these guys to play faster.

They must have some information that shows they will lose more money by alienating lousy golfers by enforcing pace-of-play rules than they make up by attracting more golfers with a 4 hour round.
11.27.2007 | Unregistered CommenterJackM
There's a public course in New Jersey that makes a point of its pace-of-play policy (Bowling Green Golf Club); it trumpets its speed on its website, and I've played a four-hour round there on a weekend morning in high season. They do it not with hectoring marshalls (I wouldn't mind those if they'd forecaddie at likely lost-ball spots) but by doing things like assiduously clearing out underbrush from tree-lined areas and keeping the rough low and manageable -- enough to affect a shot, but you're not going to have trouble finding your ball. It's a good (not great) course, but a VERY good experience playing there.

Does anyone know of other courses that go out of their way to feature pace-of-play in its marketing/advertising? I can't think of too many.
11.27.2007 | Unregistered Commenterjneu
Re: Bethpage Black

My first time there my group had the day's first starting time. We "chased" the divot-fillers and sprinklers throughout the round and finished 50 minutes ahead of the 2nd group of the day (who finished 55 minutes ahead of the 3rd group).

We certainly weren't rushing or setting scoring records.
11.27.2007 | Unregistered CommenterNunya Bizness
I read an article today on Dean Knuth's website concerning slow play, and the author made the comment that if you look at an old Shell match video, you'll see Sarazen or Snead hit their drive, pick up the tee, and walk often before the ball even lands.

In a study on slow play referenced in the article, it mentioned that there was much delay caused by long pre-shot preparation, and then similarly slow post-shot stuff, like watching it land, putting the club away slowly, fiddling, practicing some swing move thought to have been botched in the actual shot, etc.
11.27.2007 | Unregistered CommenterCharles R. Butler
jneu -- I am always amazed that other courses don't do more of that. (Active advertising of a guaranteed pace of play.)

The National Golf Foundation is constantly serving up reminders that their polling suggests that pace of play is one of the biggest impediments to more play.

My ideal on the rangering of such courses would be that if you were out of position so as to be noticed for more than an acceptable time, you would simply be instructed to pick up and go to the next hole. Indeed, after a warning, the rangers would be empowered to pick up balls in play (on a green, for instance) and take them to the next tee and drop them there. A notice of this policy would be printed on every scorecard.
11.27.2007 | Unregistered CommenterChuck

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