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"They don’t ever assess (stroke) penalties and the fining thing, it takes four or five months before you get one 20 grand fine."

Andrew Both on slow play:
As anyone who has attended a tournament lately will attest, it is almost painful watching a professional tournament on site.
Ouch. Nice to see this theme picking up steam rapidly, eh?

Both also shares this from Matthew Goggin:
“It’s brutal,” Goggin said. “Slow players can affect fast players but fast players don’t affect slow players. Fast players just have to deal with it.

“Slow players can torture everyone in the group by not letting anyone get into a rhythm, either their playing partners or the three or four groups behind them. We’re all sick of slow players, we all know who they are.”

There have been several suggestions as to how to speed up play, including smaller fields and easier hole locations, but the biggest problem may be that the penalty for slow play on tour is so small.

“They don’t ever assess (stroke) penalties and the fining thing, it takes four or five months before you get one 20 grand fine,” Goggin said.
Posted on May 7, 2008 at 10:49PM by Registered CommenterGeoff in | Comments9 Comments

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Slow play is a non-issue. The players control the tour--look at drug testing. they complain and its off the table.

if the players want slow play addressed it will be gone in one month. hit five guys with two strokes apiece and slow play is history. but the players dont want it addressed.
05.8.2008 | Unregistered CommenterBob G
Slow play is just like every other thing in our lives we don't like. It's someone else's fault. Let's pass a law and it will go away. No one takes the individual responsibility to do something. Want to speed up play? Speak up and do something when a member of your group is slow! Tell them you won't play with them unless they play faster! Don't blame tour players or television or anything else, if you don't have the guts to monitor your own foursome.
05.8.2008 | Unregistered Commenterkeep it real
There are stats for everything else on PGATour.com, why not post the actual time it takes to go around the course for the players. Nothing like a little negative publicity to provide public embarassment to the most obvious offenders.
05.8.2008 | Unregistered CommenterAl
it's useless to even discuss the topic anymore...

...obviously nothing will ever change.

ES
05.8.2008 | Unregistered CommenterEric Stratton
Al - they all go around in the same time. The slow players drag everyone down.

Rory Sabbattini will always have a special place in my heart, jackassedness and all. Similarly, I will never care for Azinger, who defended Ben Crane.
05.8.2008 | Unregistered CommenterTighthead
Why doesn't Goggin name names and out everyone whose name is not Ben Crane?

05.8.2008 | Unregistered CommenterSteven T.
Tighthead
I was thinking more along the lines of something like football's time of possession statistic. Once it is clear it is your turn to shoot, someone is timing you to see how long it takes for you to make contact.

While it takes everyone the same time to get around the course, you could quantify the guys who are the quick decision makers and those who are the biggest dauddlers (sp).

To make it more interesting, you could break the times down into three sections, 1. Tee box, 2. Green 3. Everything else.

05.8.2008 | Unregistered CommenterAl
This should be a challenge question for Golf Digest's readers, website, etc.: devise a slow play policy that is fair and has teeth, and that tour pros will approve.

As my son says, "good luck with that."
05.8.2008 | Unregistered Commenter86general
Steven T - Goggin won't name names because one of the worst offenders on tour is the one player nobody wants to piss off. Steven Ames and Rory Sabbatini have already gone that route with disastrous results.
05.11.2008 | Unregistered CommenterJeremy Rudock

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