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Nov052009

Kostis Calls For Purse "Rollback"

Retired Tweeter Peter Kostis has never been a fan of a ball rollback but he believes the PGA Tour should immediately cut all purses 10%, sending five percent of the savings to charity and the other five back to sponsors.

I'm sure the stand-up guy he is, Kostis has offered CBS a similar deal. Cut 10% of his pay and give half to the Les Moonves's bonus fund and the other half back to CBS.

Everyone is down, and spending in golf is seen as a very bad corporate idea when people are being laid off.

We need to have an immediate 10 percent rollback in purse structures. Of that rollback, 5 percent should go to local charities of the event and 5 percent should go back to the sponsor.

The Tour is fond of two words: partners and charity, and both need some help, a lot more than Tiger Woods needs another $10 million. If we can highlight the Tour's good charitable work and make some short-term concessions to the sponsors, then maybe we can change the perception that golf is a rich guy's game isolated from the concerns and problems of regular working people. Because golf is the game of regular working people, as you can see every day at your local muni.

And as a country club member, Peter can attest!

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I think he's losing it. Didn't he recently get in a 'twit' on twitter with someone? Geoff, was it you he sparred with verbally?

I am sure CBS loves their employees giving business advice to customers...
11.5.2009 | Unregistered CommenterVince Spence
"Because golf is the game of regular working people, as you can see every day at your local muni."

Is he talking about golf in the UK?

Last time I checked, the golf scene in the US was still pretty much dominated by Private Clubs, RE Developments/clubs and CCFADs that are nowhere near affordable for "regular working people".

Furthermore, most "affordable publics" in the US provide their consumers with 5+ hour rounds that are driving people away from the game in droves.

Reducing purses at PGA tournaments by 10% will do nothing to change the landscape of the game or the perception that "muni golfers" have of pros in the US.
11.5.2009 | Unregistered CommenterWalking Golfer
Kostis does have a point, even if his attempts to draw together two disparate elements - PGA Tour purses and golf's elitist image - don't quite gel.

Professional golf IS played for far too much money. Playing for so much money causes players to lose touch with reality.

American players won't go outside the USA because it's all just too much trouble;players complain about having to work 25 weeks a year;tournaments are sold to undesirable venues merely because of the money they offer.

None of this is particularly healthy.
11.5.2009 | Unregistered CommenterSharkbait
Hypocriticism aside, Peter's right. PGA purses are way out of whack. Too many guys content with their healthy 22nd place check.
11.6.2009 | Unregistered Commentermatt
i think kostis is ridiculous in so many ways, but your comparison between kostis's salary and tour purses is faulty.

cbs is an openly for-profit entity, while the tour is a phoney-baloney charitable organization which would have everyone believe that its only reason for existence is to bring happiness to little bald-headed cancer kids. giving money to charities is consistent with what real charitable organizations do.
11.6.2009 | Unregistered Commenterthusgone
This week, here in Shanghai, we're having what's being billed as the biggest prize in Asian golf history. Nobody's talking about cutting purses over on this side of the pond.

DM
11.6.2009 | Unregistered CommenterDick Mahoon
No wonder I never made it to Q school . . . I didn't have a purse.
11.6.2009 | Unregistered CommenterLudell Hogwaller
thusgone is right again. This "charity" spin is more than ridiculous and is fooling only L'il Timmy's Panjandrums of Ponte Vedra and the denser TOUR pros. But what fun is it to rattle the Kostis Cage when he won't rattle back after he was chastened (mistreated in his mind) here last summer? And what is that thing around his neck? Must be the connection to the Konica Bizhub SuperDuper Stop Action Camera?
I think Kostis has an excellent point!
The PGA Tour depends on corporate sponsorships. . . Those sponsorships are tied to charitable donations in the local communities. . . The financial viability of these tournaments is dependent upon those sponsors - unlike other sports in which Teams own themselves, derive most of their money from attendance and media support then make discretionary donations to charities of their own choosing out of their profits. . . At a time like this, when charities are struggling for funds, the PGA Tour, which constantly "talks the charitable talk," should "walk the walk" and use the Kostis suggestion to help charities and sponsors. . . PGA Tour players are NOT overpaid compared to other major sports - especially since they must perform every year without guaranteed contracts. . . But, the PGA Tour has a very different business plan compared to other sports and they should act to assist their so called "partners." . . . If sponsors drop out and tournaments go away, the damage is to the community and not so much to individual Tour players.
11.6.2009 | Unregistered CommenterWisconsin Reader
thusgone,
So Kostis should continue to profit from the non-profit because he works for a non-profit, even as he calls for a reduction in the non-profit's purses?

Maybe Kostis is making this call for his corpoate masters at CBS, who would like those sponsors to buy extra ad time with their savings. Then his call doesn't seem so wholesome does it?
11.6.2009 | Unregistered CommenterOB
Kostis should not be writing about this due to too many conflicts of interest with sponsors and a network. I would hope players will ostracize him over this, but then, that would mean they read his writings and I highly doubt that.
11.6.2009 | Unregistered CommenterDavidC
I've been saying the same thing as Kostis all year. The PGA Tour is going to need some good will going forward with sponsors if the economy doesn't improve. You don't want sponsors thinking twice about renewing contracts with a lingering thought of "they weren't willing to help us when we were down...do we really want to keep giving them all these millions of dollars ?"

But Geoff - your question about whether Kostis offered the same deal to his bosses at CBS was classic.

Walking G - you couldn't be more wrong. Better take a look at the numbers of courses in the US. The majority are munis and public courses - not private country clubs.
11.6.2009 | Unregistered Commentercourt
Oh yes, overnight golf will no longer be an elitist sport when purses are cut 10%. What an absurd idea.
11.6.2009 | Unregistered CommenterLOL
golf is an "elitist" sport if you only look at the country club game and the pros. stop repeating this nonsense and think for yourself.
11.6.2009 | Unregistered Commentercourt
ob: i don't think kostis is employed by the tour; i think he is a cbs employee and is paid a salary, on which (i presume) kostis pays taxes. my understanding is that the tour is a non-profit organization, which does not pay taxes and gets out of paying many of the folks who work hard at running the tournaments based on the fiction that the tour is a charitable enterprise.

also, kostis's legitimacy (to the extent he has any) is not dependent on us thinking that he spends all his time making sick and underprivileged children feel better, or whatever the current tour narrative is. as i understand it, the tour's value proposition to sponsors is that by sponsoring a tour event, they get to look like good corporate citizens by associating their event with a local charity.
11.6.2009 | Unregistered Commenterthusgone
Ky Lafoon, thusgone: the tour is a "phony baloney" charity outfit? Really? Was there an expose that revealed the charity donations by the tour stops (not the Tour itself) is all a fraud?
Or do the tour stops actually give a lot of money? If they do, then calling names is not so very refined of you.

I haven't read Kostis' twitter tweets, but the idea is worth putting out there. Maybe he's got one eye on what's happened to the LPGA. Or maybe he's just one more guy that's a little sore about these lifeless schmucks walking off with so much cash in their pants.
11.6.2009 | Unregistered CommenterClaude
ob,

thusgone's reply basically took the words out of my mouth, but I was going to also add that you don't seen to have any idea what you are talking about and you tried to hide behind some kind of word-play.
11.6.2009 | Unregistered CommenterTay Lormaid
claude- i stand by my characterization. no expose is necessary. if your formulation is the test for charitable organization status, then exxon, et al, also qualify because they give a lot of money to charities.
11.6.2009 | Unregistered Commenterthusgone
Claude, among the "charity" the TOUR takes credit for is the Evans Scholars Program of the Western Golf Association, which actually predates the PGA TOUR by a substantial margin. They repeatedly do such things in Ponte Vedra, even though the TOUR itself has nothing really to do with this particular program. Except to completely dis the Western Open, one of golf's oldest championships and an original Major, in favor of the FedUp Cup. Whether local tournaments are non-profits organized to give back to their communities is not really the issue. Besides, "charity" is a cloying, condescending, and self-reverential term coming from Tim Finchem, or any similarly situated executive. But I suppose that's just me, and I have once again called L'il Timmy a name. Sorry to disappoint you, but I stand by my characterization, too.
Can I just point out that only pompous country club blowhards call public courses "munis?"
11.6.2009 | Unregistered CommenterLip Out
I think muni is a useful term. 200$ daily fee courses and 28 dollar city owned courses are different, and it's useful to have a term for the latter.
11.6.2009 | Unregistered Commenterkeitht
Indeed, keitht. There are 4 munis in Lexington, KY and one par-3. Less than $25 to walk anytime. And the Parks Department runs one of the best City Championships anywhere. A number of public courses in the area at slightly more $$ per round. A good place to play public golf.
I'm so glad we have someone on board to help us learn how to speak golf.

I spent 20 years on a muni and had no idea it was incorrect to say muni. I naively thought muni was short for municipal and not some derogatory term.

I won't say muni anymore.
Muni. Ok, that's the last time.

Muni.
Muni. Muni. Muni
11.7.2009 | Unregistered CommenterLudell Hogwaller
this is preposterous...he poses a proper idea that might keep a sponsor or two on the tour (unless Finchem wants to eliminate certain sponsors/tournaments) and the clowns of this circus pick apart his other ideas with an assault on semantics. most of you, admit it or don't, are jealous of Kostis because he achieved things that you didn't...fame and money as a teaching pro and television commentator. You certainly would have done it differently, I grant you that much, and probably better, but the fact is, he did it, you didn't, move on. If you want to be the voice of golf, stop hanging out like a troll on Geoff's site and found your own golfing venture. Move and shake and make a difference, children.
11.7.2009 | Unregistered CommenterRonald Montesano
Just because someone has money or fame doesn't make them laudable... unless greed and pandering commentary are the measure of ones "success." The world is full of folks who have acquired assets and status that are tools....Kostis, Norman, Finchem and Bivens are but a few. The idea that someone who lines his pockets with zeal and then suggests others reduce theirs cause is exempt from criticism is foolish.
11.8.2009 | Unregistered CommenterSir Real
Ronald, stop making sense. Don't you know that Kostis has been on Geoff's "can do no right" list for quite awhile already?!?

I think his idea makes sense, and what's occurring here is nothing different than what occurs when a golfer speaks out and is criticized... despite the media saying they'd like it if more golfers spoke out.
11.8.2009 | Unregistered CommenterErik J. Barzeski
Ronald, Thanks for your usual empty windbaggy stuff. You got me, I'm jealous of the man! You really have your pulse on the matter.

Kostis's suggestion is short-sighted. It's a preposterous notion that a 10% purse cut will make the PGA Tour more appealing or somehow make sponsors more content. Yes, purses are high and lots of guys make a living playing the PGA Tour without making much of an impact. Heard that one for years, and some of it is true.

However, to think that the image of the elitist image of the game is driven by PGA Tour purses is a stretch. I believe as with too much of Peter's work, he has conflicts that raise questions. golf.com should not have run the piece because Kostis has a potential conflict of interest here that as happens way too often, he abuses. CBS could stand to gain from his idea, since ad revenues are surely down and sponsors are buying the minimum required amount of spots. Extra purse money saved would go either to the company coffers or CBS, and do nothing to help golf's image as a rich guy's game.

The idea would hold more weight if he himself proposed doing the same out of his love of charity and the game. Or maybe he could give all of his Titleist and infomercial proceeds to charity? It's easy to suggest taking money away from players (and their caddies), but not so fun of an idea when you apply it to yourself.

And is golf's image really going to improve when the Northern Trust Open goes from $5.6 to $5.1 million? Is Northern Trust bank going to be more likely to stay on as a sponsor because of the gesture? Will the "muni" golfer suddenly find the tour more relatable again? Sure, maybe a few people would enjoy the gesture, but most just want the PGA Tour to be exciting to watch, whatever the purse may be.
11.8.2009 | Registered CommenterGeoff
"...most just want the PGA Tour to be exciting to watch, whatever the purse may be."

Indeed. Return to the 60-exempt TOUR and watch the competitive balance reassert itself based on actual ability to excel at tournament golf at the highest level.

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