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Thursday
Dec032009

Tiger Accident Clippings, Vol. 7

Before the AP's breaking story revealing that Tiger was snoring while lying on the pavement after Elin purportedly rescued him from his Cadillac, I was prepared to declare that the coverage tide was turning with Thursday's Rachel Uchitel news conference cancellation and subsequent suggestions she was not bought off by Tiger.

But asleep? Snoring? Expect that and other audio tape revelations to reignite questions about the Florida Highway Patrol's investigation.

As for the pre-nup negotiation stories, I've decided not to link the stories because they simply are not within reason. We're expected to believe that after the morning marriage counseling sessions, the Woods' are engaged in a re-negotiation of a financial agreement? And then going back for the afternoon marriage counseling session?

Regarding the idea of sources revealing what only a handful of people could know about, we're talking about Tiger Woods' inner circle. The same inner circle that is so disciplined they've never leaked a possible upcoming tournament appearance, much less information as sensitive as a supposed pre-nup renegotiations after a high-profile accident? (Then again, this inner circle may have been caught emailing travel arrangements to a mistress.)

But as for the pre-nup rumors, remember that it's easy to make up some tall tale about renegotiations since only an Elin-confession could prove or disprove such numbers.

On the accident coverage front, the tabloid sites are continuing to report Tiger's affairs while the media have begun to bicker about their favorite subject: themselves!

Thanks to reader Joseph for Jason Whitlock's lively shot at the mainstream sports media for their criticism of Tiger and in particular, his suggestions of hypocrisy directed at Rick Reilly and Charles Pierce.

Tiger is evil for exercising the most fundamental right we enjoy? He's stupid because he wants to deal with his marital problems in private? He owes the public an apology for promises he broke to his wife?

This is all a bad joke. This whole affair highlights why the mainstream media have lost the public's trust. We don't deserve it. We're controlled by hidden agendas.

Speaking of Reilly, he wrote this about Tiger's statement:

If you know the man, the apology Woods issued Wednesday is staggering. For him to speak of "regret" and "personal failings" is unthinkable. It's like a guy who detests snakes being lowered into a pit of them.

This is a man who gives quotes away like a hostile witness in a murder trial. When he answers a question in three words, he's mad he didn't answer it in two. He doesn't even like to reveal yardage.

John Paul Newport says a "compact with the media, both gossip and sports, has now been destroyed."

The golf media alone, cowed by Woods’s awesomeness as an athlete and his colossal role in selling the game, would probably never have unearthed what the gossip media has. The golf media never would have dared.

Culturally, however, this invasion has been a shock for golf—in particular the glee with which the gossip magazines, Web sites and television outlets have reported their allegations about Woods’s marital infidelity this week. That obvious delight is probably the biggest difference between the sports media and the gossip media.

Randell Mell talked to some PR gurus who make a good case for a public appearance by Tiger:

“It will look like he’s hiding something, and that will create questions among the media and the fans and in turn among his sponsors,” Gordon said. “That’s the exact flow chart. Media, fans, sponsors. Sponsors only care about people who buy their products. If he starts to lose credibility among them, the sponsors will care. Right now, the sponsors are holding firm, and they should. But if he tries to avoid the subject, it will continue to create questions rather than answer them.”

Woods’ addressed his right to privacy in three of the five paragraphs of his statement. How did that come off?

“There are certain things he just can’t say, or he will not have any credibility saying, at this time,” Maloni said. “He’s certainly not going to have a lot of credibility screaming for his privacy, at this time.”

Rich Lerner offers this somber take from the golf point of view, which has been confirmed by the sad vibe out at Sherwood:

Not long ago we talked about Tiger Woods in the same breath as Jack Nicklaus. Now, it’s Eliot Spitzer, Mark Sanford, John Edwards, Bill Clinton and Kobe Bryant.
Sad.

There is grieving for the end of an era, the end of Tiger as heroic and untouchable. He’s simply human now, like us.

And finally, Susanne Shapiro has analyzed Tiger's handwriting for Deadspin. I learned so much.

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Sleep driving? Ambien? Just sayin.

New York magazine quotes Tiger texting one of the bimbos, "My body is tired, but mind awake. Need an Ambien."
12.3.2009 | Unregistered CommenterSqueaky
Why does everybody keep saying "Tiger is human, just like the rest of us"?

Tiger is a douche and a fraud who pulled one of the great marketing misdirections of all time. He's also a serial adulterer, a grudge holder and possibly a prescription drug-abuser who refuses to sign autographs for little kids and who blew off both Jackie Robinson Day in New York and Payne Stewart's Memorial at Pebble Beach.

I'd say that, discounting his supernatural golf ability, he's below the mean.
12.3.2009 | Unregistered CommenterFo Shiz
Fo Shiz--spot on!!
Tiger's omnipotent fantasy has crashed and burned--paging Dr. Freud~!!
12.3.2009 | Unregistered CommenterS.D.
As far as I know, that's 3 mistresses identified so far - if a 4th is unearthed, does that give him another Tiger Slam?

And if all 4 mistresses are with child - is that called the Impregnated Quadrilateral?
12.4.2009 | Unregistered CommenterMcStumpy
"He doesn't even like to reveal yardage." That's funny!
12.4.2009 | Unregistered CommenterRM
Jason Witlock's piece is excellent.

This morning the NYT has a debate on Tiger's claim to privacy: http://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/03/does-tiger-woods-have-a-right-to-privacy/

Margie I'm getting tired of your racist posts.
12.4.2009 | Unregistered CommenterF. X. Flinn
Squeeky, had the exact same thought.

Ultimately I don't think he was "sleep walking" but it's not a stretch to think if he had taken an ambien it could have significantly impaired his driving and been a factor in the crash. If you've ever taken an ambien and not gone directly into bed, 20-40 mintues after the fact you get up to walk and balance is severely affected. Might also help explain how he was asleep and "snoring" when the neighbor found him!

Hey, it's a long shot, no doubt, but something to think about -- obviously only relative to the accident.
12.4.2009 | Unregistered Commenter10024
Fo Shiz, explain the "fraud", please.
12.4.2009 | Unregistered Commenter10024
10024,

certainly. I can do that.

Grossly speaking, he has essentially presented himself as the exact opposite of the person he really is in order to sell us shit we don't need. I'm not referring to how he's presented himself as Tiger the golfer (a single-minded, prickish killer) I'm referring to how he's presented Tiger the Brand (a likable, upright icon who is to be admired and emulated).

More specifically, he has often waxed rhapsodic on the virtues of family and the value he places on it. In fact, it is one of the few things he has been willing to speak at length about.

And it turns out that he's a serial adulterer.

So, that's what I call a fraud.
12.4.2009 | Unregistered CommenterFo Shiz
More from the Chicago Sun-Times gossip pages.

http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/zwecker/1920034,CST-FTR-zp04.article

I thought Tiger's image might take a big hit from the infidelity stuff, but this is really steamrolling now. wonder where it ends.
12.4.2009 | Unregistered CommenterSSI Visitor
Fo Shiz, understood. But doesnt there have to be two parties at the table for a fraud to have been committed? Namely the person who made the misrepresentation, and then the person who was somehow damaged by the misrepresentation?

Clearly Tiger isn't who we thought he was in his personal life, but was anyone really spending $$'s on the basis of him "waxing" about his family life?

Or were tickets and clubs bought, and televised events watched, based on Tiger's ability to hit golf shots and win tournaments?

I don't think anyone ever bought a Buick because of Tiger!
12.4.2009 | Unregistered Commenter10024
We have all been damaged. . . It is so tragic . . . If we had known Tiger was messing around we never would have accepted his winning all those tournaments. . . We demand a "NCAA type investigation" - if it is determined he was in violation of a morals clause - his victories must be removed from the record books - and all tournament monies be returned. . . Congratulations to Rocco Mediate, 2008 U.S. Open Champion!
12.4.2009 | Unregistered CommenterWisconsin Reader
Fo Shiz: I certainly share your conclusion that Tiger has been, at least for the last 5 years, a pretty despicable person, based on his apparent history as a serial aldulterer and liar.

But I can't, no matter how hard I try, agree with you that he's a "fraud." It implies a malicious, calculated, intentional deception. Under that strict a judgement, wouldn't many athletes endorsing any product be frauds? It's one thing to lie about your education, or to sell a counterfeit painting, or push worthless stocks on unsuspecting people, it's quite another to have a messed up personal life. I am sure that, for all his failings, Tiger Woods has done many, many good things, including many for his wife and children. He may indeed believe that family comes first, but fails in his attempt to live by it. Making mistakes - even serial philandering - doesn't, for me anyway, translate into the same connotation of fraud that puts crooks in jail.

I guess you can consider his marriage vows a fraud, assuming he promised to love and honor Elin. But to look at his entire public life and business history as a fraud is off base, I think.
12.4.2009 | Unregistered CommenterE.P. Richardson
The man named Jarius says in the interview he has been Tiger's neighbor for "seventeen-plus years."

Wasn't Tiger living at home with his parents 17 years ago? So Jarius is a childhood friend/acquaintance of Tiger? Who just happens to live next door to him in a very high priced, exclusive neighborhood in Windermere? I posted this in another thread, but I really think the police work here stinks.
12.4.2009 | Unregistered CommenterJohn Redcorn
10024,

the two parties are Tiger and his fans.

I don't care what the population at large thinks about him, but the relationship between Tiger and golf fans has been built on a false pretense. Tiger has let them down. And only because he actively marketed himself as diametrically opposed to his true self. Had he stuck to golf and not portrayed an "image," nobody would have any expectations and, in my opinion, not many people would care about what's going on. Of course Tiger wouldn't be as big as he is without his "image" in the first place.

If Tiger had been a rank douche from the beginning, even with the same golf skills and achievements, he'd also have fewer fans. His fans support him both for his golf and for the person they thought he was. That's why nobody liked Barry Bonds even before the steroid scandal, but loved Ken Griffey, Jr., despite their similar baseball skills.

Tiger won our love unfairly.

That's where the fraud occurred.
12.4.2009 | Unregistered CommenterFo Shiz
@10024:

"I don't think anyone ever bought a Buick because of Tiger!"

That would be welcome news to me if it were true. But the marketing and advertising whizzes (pun fully intended) at Buick, AMEX, Nike, Gatorade, Tag Heuer, Gillette, Accenture (originally Andersen Consulting, a component of the late, not so great ENRON accounting firm...sorry, had to add that), and Titleist (got out at the 'top' of the Tiger Market, Wally!) might disagree.

In fact, from our good friend Wikipedia:
"In 2002, Woods was involved in every aspect of the launch of Buick's Rendezvous SUV. A company spokesman stated that Buick is happy with the value of Wood's endorsement, pointing out that more than 130,000 Rendezvous vehicles were sold in 2002 and 2003. "That exceeded our forecasts," he was quoted as saying. "It has to be in recognition of Tiger." In February 2004, Buick renewed Woods's endorsement contract for another five years, in a deal reportedly worth $40 million."
BTW, isn't that the car Tiger was going to open during a rain shower with his 9-iron before being rescued by OnStar?

Then there is this:
"Woods collaborated closely with TAG Heuer to develop the world's first professional golf watch, released in April 2005. The lightweight, titanium-construction watch, designed to be worn while playing the game, incorporates numerous innovative design features to accommodate golf play. It is capable of absorbing up to 5,000 Gs of shock, far in excess of the forces generated by a normal golf swing. In 2006, the TAG Heuer Professional Golf Watch won the prestigious iF product design award in the Leisure/Lifestyle category."
I have no idea how many of these things (who needs to wear a watch on the golf course? 5000g resistance? Seriously?) TAG Heuer has sold, but the company would probably tell you that most of them were sold because of the Tiger connection.

WR, no one begrudges Tiger his success as a golfer, although I do wish he was generally less of an angry jerk on the course (now we know about that, don't we?). And I haven't been personally damaged, either. But get back to the above mentioned corporations on "damages" and see what they have to say a little bit down the road. If this makes them stop facilitating such hero worship, all the better. But do you really think any of these geniuses don't cringe just a little every time another TMZ/Radar/US Weekly/National Enquirer blip appears on the horizon?
Hell hath no fury like a Shizzle scorned.
12.4.2009 | Unregistered CommenterJohn Redcorn
Would you feel better if I had used the word "phony" instead of "fraud"? Because I'm willing to give in and call him a phony.
12.4.2009 | Unregistered CommenterFo Shiz
Preach on, Brother Redcorn!
12.4.2009 | Unregistered CommenterFo Shiz
On the snoring thing. While on its face, its hysterical, its possible that he was gurgling if he had blood or other fluid collecting. Not saying that is or what isn't happened, just an observation from an ex-prosecutor in that what people say they heard isn't what they actually heard, even if they believe it to be so.

@Fo Shiz, so he has a facade? Name a public figure who doesn't? Phil comes across on TV as an "Aw, Shucks" nice guy, but I can assure you that when the cameras aren't on he is a complete prick. I don't think any less of him because of it. How about politicians? Do you think they don't have their public persona and the private persona?
12.4.2009 | Unregistered CommenterThe O
Fo shiz you are right but Fraud can be used because Tiger is a 100 mil a year man. Or is this number another Tiger image portrayed by the likes of Mr Corn Syrup Rich Lerner. Finally will the gag fest stop with the sugar coating of every Tiger nose blowing. I hope so. I kinda lost interest in Tiger as. HERO after people clapped when he left the port o John on the 16th fairway in 2002 at Beth page. The phonyiness of the American public fueled the fire too. Pukefest everyday on ESPN
12.4.2009 | Unregistered CommenterVwgolfer
@The O:

Huh? You are indeed right that we all have a public face. And maybe Phil is just what you say when the cameras are off. That is certainly the consensus around here. Perhaps you even have first hand evidence. But the $hit storm would be just as intense, although somewhat less in magnitude, if we learned that Phil had been doing what Tiger has confessed while Amy was pregnant and/or dealing with her recent illness.
Being a prick is one thing. Being a serial adulterer who presented himself as a "family-first", admirable guy is another.

And I didn't say that Phil isn't a fraud. He may be. If it comes out that he's a serial adulterer, then, yes, he's a fraud, because much of his image is based on a presentation of himself that is directly opposed to his true nature. I have, of course, heard that he is a prick in real life, although most of that has come from people in the golf business, most of whom haven't read a book that wasn't written by Harvey Penick or Bob Rotella. Many of the non-golf related people I know who have met him say that he's likable and accessible. But whatever.

And yes, I think all politicians are frauds. But they need to be frauds to do their jobs and get elected. Tiger and Phil (and whomever else), only need to be frauds because of how they have chosen to capitalize on their athletic skills. They could have just stuck to golf and selling golf-related crap. I don't think Tiger is a fraud at all when it comes to anything in the world of golf. Had he stuck to golf, he'd could act however he wanted to.

But like I said, I can live with calling Tiger a phony, if fraud is too strong of a word for some of you. I don't speak legal-ese. I just speak English.

More important, the fact that in real life he's a douche turns the sentiment on all the other shortcomings of his that we've been willing to overlook in the last 15 years. Being exposed as a fraud (or a phony) is just the string that pulled up the curtain.
12.4.2009 | Unregistered CommenterFo Shiz
Ambien abuse combined with serial adultery. Sponsors should be huddling.
12.4.2009 | Unregistered CommenterWarren
@ The O

A couple of people have already commented on what you said but I have to take great exception with your statement: "I can assure you"

That is complete bullshit. Unless you are part of his inner circle and have personal experience on numerous occasions where he acted that way. Don't give me the "I heard this and I heard that" B.S. either because there has been some proof presented in the last few years that some of the stories that circulated were actually planted by people trying to hurt his image.

I say this because I was personally told by a senior manager at a major corporation that had numerous and ongoing dealings with Phil Mickelson that he is perhaps the nicest person he has ever met in his life.

I'm not saying you need to be a fan of Phil Mickelson, we cheer for whom we like, but for you to say "I can assure you that when the cameras aren't on he is a complete prick" - you should have specific knowledge to back that statement up.
12.4.2009 | Unregistered CommenterPress Agent
"Bones" is the nice guy, Press Agent.
12.4.2009 | Unregistered CommenterLooper
Wisconsin Reader, certainly any player would return a dishonestly acquired trophy.
12.4.2009 | Unregistered CommenterFrank
Fo Shiz, yes, we can agree on "phony". His fans have hurt feelings, that is for sure. But people don't go to jail for that.

Ky, I didn't mention Tag or anyone else, only Buick. I definitely agree that some Tag Golf Watch sales are directly attributable to Tiger's endorsement, no doubt. Having said that, I'm pretty sure that specific model has been a failure...you know anyone that owns one? I don't.

As for Buick, yes, that's what he was driving when he got locked out. As a part of his sponsorship Buick provided him with one at every tour event he played in regardless of what the "official" car of the event was. Sluman has the same deal with Mercedes. I saw him at Westchester once rummaging through the trunk of a sweet S-Class in the player parking lot, he was surrounded by a sea of, you guessed it, Buick's!! I made a comment about him arrriving in style and he said "nice benefit of my contract".

However, I still think that if anyone ever bought a Buick because "it's what Tiger drives", those sales are deminimus. When a car company is paying a guy that much dough what do you expect them to say?!? JMO...ultimately they can't prove it nor can I.
12.4.2009 | Unregistered Commenter10024
I still don't know that information on the two pill bottles produced by Elin at the scene has ever been made public. Has it?

I read Jason Whitlock's column -- it is ususally a disaster every time that he attempts to write about golf. If I were to bump into Jason Whitlock, I'd say this:

"Sure, Tiger has a right to privacy. No one should be tapping his phone, peering into his house with telephoto lenses, disclosing his private documents, or exposing his children to publicity. People aren't debating whether Tiger has the 'right' to say nothing and to do nothing about any of this. Tiger has that right. Nobody can or should force Tiger to do anything. The debate is whether it is good public relations for 'Tiger Woods, the Brand' to be doing something. Jason, we both know that there is no rule that says Tiger has to disclose any private information that he doesn't want to. Tiger doesn't have to make any appearances, nor say anything, that he doesn't want to. But Jason, there's no rule that says Tiger has to make $90 million a year, either."

I get the impression that Jason Whitlock's underlying point was that, "PGA Tour golfers are just as randy, amoral, and indiscreet as professional athletes in other sports." And that has been a long-running theme with him. He's not a regular golf writer. He's a sports writer who turns his attention to golf whenever anything big happens. Usually, that implies a Tiger Woods story. That's where golf begins and ends for him, for the most part.
12.4.2009 | Unregistered CommenterChuck
Man, I hope some of you guys are fortifying your glass houses. Life is messy. Deal with it. People make mistakes, and, gasp, sometimes even engage in destructive behavior over an extended period of time.

Without going into detail, I know what it feels like to cause pain to someone you love. It can mess you up. But I also know that it's possible to take those experiences, admit them, seek restoration, make amends and find yourself rocketed into another dimension. Couple that with forgiveness and a new commitment, and who knows? Right now it's all embarrassment and shame and resentment. If he, with our without Elin or anyone else, can't move past that, then the best days of Tiger Woods may be behind him. But if he finds the strength of humility - and turns to a daily spiritual regimen with the same ferocity that he has brought to his physical and mental training, then we might be getting ready to witness something truly spectacular. On and off the course.

If you feel like you need a pound of flesh from Tiger Woods, I feel sorry for you. Personally, I wish him and his family strength, healing and a new lease on life from this whole sorry business.
12.4.2009 | Unregistered CommenterTombo
Tombo --

None of us are the world's most famous athlete, and none of us make 100 million/year off of our phony image. So, no, it doesn't matter what our houses are made of.

Furthermore, why so much sympathy for Tiger? He's only sorry because he got caught. Otherwise, it'd all still be going on.

Is he upset because he hurt his wife, or because he hurt his image?
12.4.2009 | Unregistered CommenterFo Shiz
I keep reading the "glass houses" admonisment. Maybe I'm engaging in some Clintonian parsing, but to me, that statement refers to being judge and sentencer, not merely expressing opinions.

If someone thinks Tiger did something bad, and chooses to visit a forum where the issue is being freely discussed, there is nothing wrong with calling him every name in the book, if that's what you believe he deserves.

You are right, of course, Tombo, that Tiger can certainly redeem himself. I think most people hope he will.
12.4.2009 | Unregistered CommenterE.P. Richardson
Fo Shiz, I'm not trying to give you a hard time but am curious and trying to understand...

...why so much anger directed at Tiger? Did you really have that much invested in him emotionally?

I mean he's just some dude on TV playing golf, right?
12.4.2009 | Unregistered Commenter10024
Oh and one more thing, on the subject of drugs:

Read some of the web references on the side effects of ambien. One of the gossip sites wrote something alleging Tiger used the drug recreationally during sex. Apparently, there are a large number of bizarre cognitive side effects, many relating to amnesia and sleepwalking. People will wake up and learn they bought thousands of dollars of merchandise on line. People find strange things near their beds, like plates and ice cream cartons, and they don't remember eating. The combination of disinhibition and variations on sleepwalking has led to some pretty bizarre behaviors.

If the rumor is true that Tiger uses ambien, this would be a plausible explanation for a combination of erratic behavior and him lying on the ground in some sort of sleep state.

The plot thickens.
12.4.2009 | Unregistered CommenterE.P. Richardson
@ Looper

The moon is made of cheddar cheese.

That has the same value as your statement.
12.4.2009 | Unregistered CommenterPress Agent
While I am not offering this as an excuse, I don't think this whole discussion of the progression of the build-up and now tear-down of Tiger Woods- the brand name and sports idol, should be undertaken without considering the process from the begining. When did Tiger Woods ever walk alone, or when was he ever conditioned to be a real individual, and suffer all the trials and errors of the process of growing up to be a responsible adult, accountable for all of his actions? I'd say, never! As a junior golfer (or go all the way back to the Mike Douglas show) he was held out as a superstar, phenom, and everyone was angling to get into the act as agents, promoters, or product patrons. I'm not sure that the legend of Earl inculcating a 'special forces' style discipline and ethic in young Tiger is quite accurate. But, when he came out in the "hello world" Milwaukee open, with the big Nike contract and scads of other endorsers waiting in line, I'd say Tiger's fait was sealed as far as ever going to have the opportunity to grow up as a man in the usual way of trials and errors and learning consequences of your actions, etc.

How many people can or have come through this process of phenom to superstar unscathed? Sooner or later, the surrealistic world of fame, instant wealth, entourage enabling, celebrity affiliation seeking climbers and hangers-on will lead the idol to the big fall from grace when the fantasy ride ends in some stupid, arrogant, hubristic act of a person that never really had to answer for anything, until events demanded they finally do answer up to the very folks that particpated in creating the false idol; the fan-atics and now scored consumers who bought into the branding of the superstar they have been sold.
12.4.2009 | Unregistered Commenterrjd
@press agent,

I grew up with Phil. I've played golf with Phil many times. Unless his ego somehow deflated or his attitude improved after he became a famous millionaire (which would certainly buck the trend), the phrase "I assure you" is completely accurate. Maybe you're Phil's Press Agent. Gotta protect the brand!

But, most of the rest of you missed my point. My point wasn't that Phil is a prick, which was incidental, but rather that Tiger's smiley, ptichman persona isn't him when the cameras aren't there. That doesn't really bother me. Someone made the point that his real issue is the "family man" image versus the serial cheater, and that's a fair counter point. All I'm saying is that public figures are like actors. Tiger acts like a nice guy when he has to.
12.4.2009 | Unregistered CommenterThe O
10024,

I was a big fan, as noted previously. Not ridiculously so, as I'm a grown man, a professional, and a person of many interests and perspectives. Also, I'm incredibly handsome.

But sports have always played a big part in my life, as both an athelete and fan, and Tiger has been a part of my golf life since its early stages nearly twenty years ago. So, yes I had some emotional investment in him. Not in any sort of pathologic way, but in a way similar to the way that I and many people are emotionally invested in our own city's or college's sports teams. We don't live and die with them, and their achievements and failings don't impact our lives in any real way, but we do care about them and the role they play in our recreational and avocational lives.

So, yeah, I'm a little angry at him. But I've just been stating what is patently obvious and true. Am I not allowed? Has anything I've said not been true?

These are the facts: He's a phony (but not a fraud, apparently), an bad guy, an arrogant prick, a serial adulterer and probably the best golfer of all time.

The only editorializing was calling him a douche.

I think as a two-decade fan, I am entitled to call him a douche.

Anybody disagree?
12.4.2009 | Unregistered CommenterFo Shiz
Fo Shiz--
The past week has shown us that Tiger is a liar (Elin acted courageously), a phony (if you're a poon hound don't get married; get married to someone where there's an understanding that you're a poon hound and an arrangement; but don't publish pics of yourself and family and brand yourself as a family man and then later demand privacy), immature (text messages a sex-crazed 13-year-old would send) and of course the world's best golfer.
It's hard to disagree with your previous post.
12.4.2009 | Unregistered CommenterArj
@ The O

Sounds to me like you got your arse handed to you when you were younger and you still carry a grudge.
12.4.2009 | Unregistered CommenterPress Agent

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