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Sunday
Mar082009

Bear Trap, Yang's Win Overshadowed By Rory's T-13th

Well-placed sources tell me there is a small wager floating around out and hinging on when I would actually admit the error of my ways in daring to highlight the British/Irish/Scottish press obsession with 19-year-old phenom Rory McIlroy, even though young Rory himself has admirably and humbly downplayed his place in the game.

But to put this bet to rest and give the people what they want...I was wrong. He is an immense talent. Soon to rival Tiger Woods and establish himself as the greatest rival yet to the world No. 1.

This conclusion was reached in part by reading John Huggan's excellent profile in the newly redesigned (and I must say much more handsome Golf World), which I leaned on for moral support while suffering through today's Honda Classic final round. This annual must-see on the golfing calendar was embellished by a nauseating Jack and Johnny Mutual Admiration Society session, an NBC feature on Kenny G playing sax to sick kids (like they haven't been through enough?), and an excess of praise for a golf course with one-too-many fountains. Though I was pleased to see the an excellent feature on Erik Compton's brutal journey and fascinated to hear that the economic collapse has even halted Nicklaus Design operations to the point that Jack is out playing member events at Augusta and Seminole.

Sorry, I'm procrastinating. Sorry seems to be the hardest word.

I simply must tip my cap to the scribes for predicting Rory's emergence. I'm sorry for doubting your foresight and wisdom. For young Rory to beat most of the field and only lose to the likes of Y.E. Yang, John Rollins, Ben Crane, Jeff Klauk, Scott Piercy and D.A. Points points to a level of greatness that I simply failed to spot. I was wrong.

Hope that settles the bet!

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How dare you back down Geoff. I love how you slap the media when it gets carried away. The Rory hype has been a bit excessive and you have kindly slapped them around without getting abusive. And I think he looks like a sensational player.
03.8.2009 | Unregistered CommenterO.B.
He's not backing down. He's being sarcastic.
03.9.2009 | Unregistered CommenterSatch
I dare predict that within five years' time, that very post will jump up and slap you in the ass. He's a college sophomore by age, and he's top-20 in the world for chrissakes. Waaay better than Woods at 19. He's done absolutely nothing to stir up the hype around himself, other than play good golf. Even though you intend to direct the sarcasm towards the British media, in the last paragraph it definitely spills out over Rory. And treating teenagers with sarcasm stinks worse than the collected wit of Bobby Clampett.
03.9.2009 | Unregistered CommenterHawkeye
Hawkeye,
What is it that you spotted with your "hawkeye"? Is the other eye not working? The sarcastic spittle was reserved, it appears, for the press, not the player. Old Geoff is simply returning fire to a press that bases a fair amount of its writing on bombast and embellishment, dare I say hyperbole? I dare.
03.9.2009 | Unregistered CommenterRonald Montesano
It's called damning with feint praise. Good clean fun.

I particularly liked the part of the broadcast when Jack said Johnny was a good fisherman. You could see Johnny's face change and the speech balloon appear (..."but I won majors too, you know, and I shot 63"...) I think Jack was being a bit of a bitch.
03.9.2009 | Unregistered CommenterPickworth
No doubt Mark O'Meara, Bob Torrance, Ernie Els and Geoff Ogilvy are all breathing huge sighs of relief at GS getting them back in off that very shaky limb.
03.9.2009 | Unregistered CommenterOxfordBufties
Better than Tiger at 19? Are you being serious? Honestly, look at what Tiger Woods achieved till he hit 19 and compare it to Rory.

It's not even remotely worth discussing who is better.

"Waaay better than Woods at 19."

You have to be on the smack, mate.
03.9.2009 | Unregistered CommenterSatch
Buried in the Rory-speak was this gem: "An NBC feature on Kenny G playing sax to sick kids (like they haven't been through enough?)"

Geoff, You know I've been a loyal follower of this blog for years, but that line might be the best ever. You still got it.
03.9.2009 | Unregistered CommenterRM
i thought the exact same thing about the kenny g spot. i especially like the part where he tooted his own horn for giving the lung-challenged kid one of his own saxophone to "improve the quality of his remaining life." and the part about "competing with jack nicklaus by doing what i do," jeez!!
03.9.2009 | Unregistered Commenterthusgone
ON behalf of all of us on the other side of the Atlantic can I apologise for having the temerity to produce a young player who is quite good.Under no cicumstances will anybody be allowed to say or allow to have quoted anything that might upset the plethora of young American superstars out there at the moment.Our press must be gagged and only allowed to speak about Tiger.Sorry.Chico
03.9.2009 | Unregistered Commenterchico
"But to put this bet to rest and give the people what they want...I was wrong. He is an immense talent. Soon to rival Tiger Woods and establish himself as the greatest rival yet to the world No. 1."

At least you came right out and said it Geoff. I have to admit that I am sipping my coffee and knowingly thinking 'told ya'

None of us fans of Rory are at the point of establishing a church in his name but we admire his talent, we admire his attitude and we recognise that he is just a kid from 'round our way' who is incredibly good at what he does. Your comments concerning his non invite to the Northern Trust were made in ignorance and you should have done a little more research.

He was getting plenty of tv coverage and the bottom line is that without this friendly fresh faced kid, the tour could get stuck with the type of player who refuses autographs and interviews and is generally surly. Camillo Villegas anyone?
03.9.2009 | Unregistered CommenterStyles
Or worse still, stuck with Y.E. Yang, John Rollins, Ben Crane, Jeff Klauk, Scott Piercy and D.A. Points.
03.9.2009 | Unregistered CommenterOxfordBufties
Chico, no problem. You guys produce lots of nice players who win a few tournaments against thin fields halfway around the world. Monty is an example. So are Lee W, Darren C, Ian P, Paul C, Justin R, Paul McG. Etc Etc.

The only one who has won a major is Paddy. The rest, it appears, make a ton of money finishing in the top 10 and attaining suspiciously high World Golf Rankings. I see lots of lambos and bentlys but few wins. I see mansions at wentworth and lake nona but few wins.

Rory MAY be a world beater, but can we please wait for a year or two so he can at least catch up with AK and Camillo? Please?
03.9.2009 | Unregistered CommenterPonte Green
Ponte Green, you are so right. Much better to queue up or get pay-TV to watch exciting major champions like Zach Johnson, Todd Hamilton, Ben Curtis, Shaun Micheel and Rich Beem.
03.9.2009 | Unregistered CommenterOxfordBufties
I had to leave Jim Furyk and David Toms for a separate post because the excitement was getting too much for me.
03.9.2009 | Unregistered CommenterOxfordBufties
Rory going to overtake Tiger? Come on, what has Rory done to date at his age compared to Tiger? Hype Hype Hype. Another thing, my watching Rory's putting strokes for short ones and him missing more times than not for a pro ... well I can only repeat that addage ... what are 2 things that don't last too long .. dogs that chase cars and pros that putt for par........
03.9.2009 | Unregistered CommenterMichael Ch.
Hawkeye: "Waaaay better than Woods at 19." Can't argue with you if you look at world rankings, but was Tiger playing as many pro events at age 19?

But I'll give that to you - Rory is much better than Tiger at 19. Thing is, by 21, Tiger was better than anyone in the world, by a pretty big margin. I give Rory 1:1,000,000 odds on being better than Tiger Woods in 2 years. And I think that's being generous.

Nothing against the guy--I'd love to see another player as great as Tiger, and I'll happily root for Rory to do so. But realistically...I just don't think we'll see it. While I don't wish it on him, statistically I'd say Rory is more likely to follow Justin Rose's trajectory than Tiger Woods's.
03.9.2009 | Unregistered Commenter86general
Exactly, 86general.

When Rory turns 21, he will not change the face of golf like Tiger did.

Nice young guy, hope he wins loads - but he ain't Tiger and he ain't even close, not will he get close.

He'll get Ian Poulter close. That's how close he'll get. A fancy car, silly hair, Ryder Cups, European Tour wins (maybe five) - but piss all else.

Unfortunately, this is just the start of the hype.
03.9.2009 | Unregistered CommenterSatch
All this talk.... when is the Shack Open Classic Invitational Celebrity Shoot Out Pro-am?. Lets settle this on Ryder style on Rustic!
03.9.2009 | Unregistered CommenterOn Tour
i thought the point was that some very knowledgeable golfers had offered the opinion that for 19 years of age the guy is pretty special,so I cant understand Ponte Greens point that we should wait a year or two!If you take Tiger out of the equation the US tour is fairly uninspiring-I think he comfortably beat the world no 2 who plays most of his golf on your tour when he won in Dubai-not too bad for a teenager.You should be more worried about the lack of real talent amongst youir own young players-apart from A K I wouldnt cross the road to watch any of them!
03.9.2009 | Unregistered Commenterchico
Chico, I don't think anyone is against him, it's just a case of not buying into what is perceived as hype. You are correct that there does not seem to be many exciting, awe-inspiring young players on the US tour, and Rory is exciting. But - and I say this as much FOR him as I do as a criticism - it's just not a good idea to get too hyped up on a player this young. Often they cave under the pressure, or they end up getting a bad rap years later for not "fulfilling their potential" if they end up having only an "ordinary" competitive career.
03.9.2009 | Unregistered Commenter86general
rory's a stud and he's fun to watch NOW. i don't care what he does in two years, or where he is now vis-a-vis tiger. i'm just happy he's playing in events nearby so i can go see him.
03.9.2009 | Unregistered Commenterthusgone
Geoff, your link to the words "press obsession" go to a collection of your posts where the people "hyping" Rory are Mark O'Meara and Ernie Els, with John Huggan talking down the excesses of his colleagues. Rory's T-13 did not "overshadow" Yang's win, at least in the UK press I looked at (Guardian and BBC), where Rory's finish got nothing more than a mention (presumably because he was the highest placed UK golfer). So maybe you are being a little disingenuous. As I mentioned in a previous post, the people talking this kid up big-time include Mark O'Meara, Bob Torrance, Ernie Els and Geoff Ogilvy. I'm happy to take their word for it, aren't you? I'm certainly more convinced by them than someone who compares him to Ian Poulter.
03.9.2009 | Unregistered CommenterOxfordBufties
I agree General-and the British press are past masters at building a player up and then knocking them down again.The impression we get here though is that he has had just one good tournament when he actually had a great amateur career,was the youngest ever Walker Cupper and has come close to winning a number of times as a pro.As a failed tour player myself-who would have loved to do better I really hope he lives up to the hype.The game needs some new stars.
03.9.2009 | Unregistered Commenterchico
Tiger had a slew of USGA titles by the age of 19. Rory has what on his resume exactly? The Euro Am? Dubai?

To me Rory looks like another Adam Scott. Looks great, until the moment of truth comes.
03.9.2009 | Unregistered Commenterjason
All this down-grading of McIlroy is no different than all the hype. One's as negative as the other is positive.
Having met the kid, he is a terrific young man with a beautiful game and fresh personality who I hope will become a star on the world stage and win majors. How many? Who knows. Nobody is likely to ever be the next Tiger, but guys like McIlroy are the ones we hope can at least give him a challenge now and again. Isn't that enough? Trevino, Watson, Seve, Norman, Faldo ... none of them ever caught up with Jack in major wins. But they were all great golfers and damn fun to watch compete (well, maybe not Faldo).
So let's end this silly snarking and just watch the kid grow up and see what he does. I think we all might enjoy the show.
And if Rory one day stands out in a sea of failed challengers, let's just say you can't spell "sorry" without "rory."
03.9.2009 | Unregistered CommenterScotty
Jason-what a typical fatuous response!He won the Dubai event against a really top quality field with several top ranked players in the field.Winning an amateur event hardly compares!Look at the records of most of the recent U.S Amateur champions and say how well they stack up to the Dubai field-not too well I suggest.Give the guy a break-and realise there is a world outside the usa.The 3 best young players in the World at the moment would appear to be Japanese,Irish and a New Zealander-who incidentally humped your boys in the US Amateur didnt he?!
03.9.2009 | Unregistered Commenterchico
"The sarcastic spittle was reserved, it appears, for the press, not the player."

See Ronald, that's one thing I spotted, which you didn't. The sarcastic remarks were perhaps intended for the press only (I wrote as much, but you managed to miss that too), but they stilll managed to hit a well-mannered 19-year-old.

"Better than Tiger at 19? Are you being serious? Honestly, look at what Tiger Woods achieved till he hit 19 and compare it to Rory."

Satch, Tiger's best showing in a pro tournament at 19 - and he had played quite a few by that time - was a T41 at The Masters, where he spent the week airmailing greens by 30 yards with Pitching Wedges. Was he World top 20 material at that stage? I don't think so.

Look, I'm one of Tiger's biggest fans, I'm allergic to hype, and I too laughed hard at the Kenny G line. But don't let the dirt thrown at overzealous British writers spill over on innocent teenagers. Rory's got a lot to prove, but let him prove it without having to fend off media backlash. That's all I'm saying.
03.9.2009 | Unregistered CommenterHawkeye
chico--you'd better hope Rory boy starts winning majors in the next few years. Otherwise your "he won Dubai so there!" tripe is going to REALLY fall flat.

BTW, re: the U.S. Am, see Jack's comments about the quality of that win. He compares them to majors. And last time I checked, Jack has bit more credibility than you on the topic. ;)
03.9.2009 | Unregistered Commenterjason
Re: Rory
No problem with praising the player or his performance.
Big problem with forecasts of things to come.

Re: US Am
Like single major wins, single US Am wins mean litle.
Multiple/consecutive wins (major or Am) are another matter.

Re: Geoff
Let's not force his blog to be all serious.
Many appreciate humor - even Geoff's [:-}
03.9.2009 | Unregistered CommenterGeorgeM
Jack compares them to majors because he wants his total to be 20. Match play tournaments, especially am ones, do not compare to professional 72 hole stroke play ones.
03.9.2009 | Unregistered Commenterdfoster
dfoster: you're right, they don't compare; match play is more fickle and thus much harder to win. :)
03.9.2009 | Unregistered Commenterjason
it can also include much more luck, its not harder to win if all you opponents play like crap
03.9.2009 | Unregistered Commenterdfoster
Yeah Steve Scott sure played like crap.
03.9.2009 | Unregistered Commenterjason
Tiger had won just under 30 amateur titles by the time he was 19, breaking records along the way

How many has Rory won?

I like Rory. He's a great kid and will be a great player. Nobody wants to 'downgrade' him in any way, but overhyping him and saying he's "waaay better" than Tiger is laughable. I still remember the American press fizzing over Adam Scott as Tiger's greatest challenger.
03.10.2009 | Unregistered CommenterSatch
Glad to see I rattled your cage Jason-just what I hoped for!As for match-play titles dfoster seems to have got it pretty spot on to me!Rory probabally wont be better than Tiger-hes a once in a lifetime player.What i,m trying to highlight here is Americas habit of completely rubbishing everything that happens in the rest of the world at a time when their game without Tiger is in a pretty feeble state.
03.10.2009 | Unregistered Commenterchico
Satch, Rory turned pro at 17, so your reasoning is totally speculative. I don't think McIllroy will be as good at 23 as Tiger was, but I still argue that he's the better 19-year-old of the two.
03.10.2009 | Unregistered CommenterHawkeye
chico--great comments. You are right that alot of the anti-Rory sentiment is no different than the unwarranted fawning.

But I don't agree that Americans have a habit of "completely rubbishing everything that happens in the rest of the world." Quite the opposite, I think, as Americans - well, the American media, that is - are constantly telling us how inferior we are to the rest of the world...culturally, politically, etc.

And we've been pretty supportive of U2, The Beatles, Sting, and Maurice Chevalier. ;-)
03.10.2009 | Unregistered Commenter86general

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