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Tuesday
14Apr2009

Second Masters Question: It was more than just the weather, no?

I was going to start this post asking why course setup was such a major topic (again) going into this Masters and yet, how few actual details we learned about what went into the committee's efforts to finally make Augusta National resemble its old self.

Sure, the committee will never be the chatty types, but how about some basic observations on tee and hole locations based on observation (you know, by leaving the press center). Or true player/caddy insights into what they actually saw? (And not just that the greens were clearly soft. We at home could see that.)

But then I saw this USA Today headline on a Jerry Potter story:

Players say scoring at majors often dictated by course setup

Rumor has it that tomorrow they've got a grabber titled, "Players say lowest score at majors often wins."

From what I've seen so far of the post Masters issues, the weeklies offer little in the way of details. However, a few reviews are in and, as warranted, they are quite positive.

Doug Ferguson rightly praises the overall change in tone. "The magic of the Masters, however, is not so much about the score as it is the opportunity."

Ron Sirak noted this detail, which seemed to have been overlooked but which was apparent on television (and almost noted on-air by Feherty at No. 15 before he realized the club has snipers trained on him in case he reverts to his true self):

Also, grass was allowed to grow ever-so-slightly longer, preventing balls that in the past may have rolled into water to hang up just short.

Steve Elling had a different take, not convinced just yet that the course is all the way back.

Even with abnormally idyllic weather, softer greens, easier pin locations and front tees that were used liberally throughout the week in a notable departure from the norm, the low score was 12 under par, marking the third time in eight years that the Masters winner finished at that exact number. Thus, it was hardly a sub-sonic total, yet it required perfect conditions and plenty of course tinkering to pull it off.

That represents a flashing yellow light.

Regular readers here know that after Shinnecock, Oakland Hills and way too many other recent rounds, I am fascinated with the idea of courses becoming silly when it's 75 and the wind is clocked at a whopping 15 mph.

So last week for me that "flashing yellow light" came in the form of intentionally soft greens. We should applaud whoever made the call to make the greens slower and softer, because it helped mask the deficiencies in the architecture and gave us a memorable week.

In recent days I've polled folks in the know, asking who deserves the most praise for making this call. They unanimously say Billy Payne deserves it for setting a new tone and essentially overruling the committee charged with setup. Still, let's nod our caps to Fred Ridley, course super Marsh Benson and the committees who found a few new hole locations and did the dirty work.

Of course they should not have to work so hard if the architecture was in better condition. Yes, it was clear the second cut has been negated in many key areas by a discreet widening out of holes.  And the frontal additions to several tees clearly helped based on comments by Crenshaw and Weir. But still, is this quote from an AP notes column (nice spot reader David) really what the club wants to read:

"We played the ladies' tees two days in a row." – Steve Williams, caddie for Tiger Woods, on the course setup.

There were a few times I was worried about player safety on No. 11 when it looked like a Palmer follow-through might lead to a plunge off the front. Then again, wasn't it wonderful Sunday to see the 15th play so short that players were able to bomb it past the abhorred Fazio/Hootie tree farm?

Which is the issue at hand. The committee had to work their tails off to offset the glaring deficiencies: the decrease in width, the second cut, the still-missing ebb and flow of the back nine, and the lack of genuine tee "elasticity." (Oh and we'll give a shout out to Brandel Chamblee who rightly questions the deepening of key fairway bunkers to the point that they eliminate the temptation factor.)

Minus the rough, minus the Christmas trees that are turning into monsters (shrewd planting work there!) but with a few old tees and corridors widened out to their old selves, firmness could be restored. Remember, Bobby Jones HATED soft greens, even writing an essay about it that originally appeared in the USGA Green Section Bulletin and subsequently in Masters of the Links

Wider and firmer does not necessarily mean players would be put back on the defensive. On the contrary, it should lull them into a false sense of security, a primary tenet of great risk-reward design.  And best of all, the committee wouldn't have to work so hard covering up the mistakes made in changing the course.

But can we all agree, the overall change in tone the last few years was not merely a product of the weather?

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Reader Comments (26)

Geoff-
What burns me up the most is that the average viewer this past weekend was lulled into thinking that the Masters of old is back. Although we all experienced the excitement similar to the way it used to be, it was still a false sense of the way it should be. The ball wound up close to the hole, but for the wrong reasons. Until we see players have to aim away from pins in order to get the ball close to the pin, Augusta will not be the course we all know and loved.
04.14.2009 | Unregistered CommenterPaul
i was at augusta in 2007 for zach johnsons win. It was freakin' cold, to say the least. So cold i was amazed at how well those guys could golf in that weather. I remember going to the range and seeing charles howell and rich beem in huge winter jackets, gloves, and ear-warmers. For me, its definitely a combination of the weather and pin placements, but primarily the weather. cheers.
04.14.2009 | Unregistered CommenterChris Hayward
Mike Francesa interviewed Jim Nantz today on WFAN:

http://podcast.wfan.com/wfan/1689937.mp3

According to Nantz, the committee aimed to set up the front nine difficult and the back nine easy on Sunday. He said the idea was to bunch the field over the front as they all hang on with pars and then enable aggressive, exciting play with lower scores on the back nine. Nantz did comment on how Mickelson did the exact opposite of that.
04.14.2009 | Unregistered CommenterAndrewB
Great in depth post about the course design from Augusta, Geoff. We always here things about set-up but rarely details.

But while we praise the committee for lower scoring and more roars, it should be noted that Cabrera is the lowest-ranked player to ever win the Masters if I've read correctly, which means that while the scoring and excitement is back at Augusta (thanks to such little wind and receptive greens), that's three fluke winners in a row who are by no means "Masters" of golf.
04.14.2009 | Unregistered CommenterBrandon Tucker
i wonder if the lords of angc are actually on board with a lot of the criticisms, but have to work slowly and clandestinely to reverse the damage wrought by hootie, lest they be seen to be influenced by the great unwashed?
04.15.2009 | Unregistered Commenterthusgone
Wouldn't it be nice if, as you say, Geoff, a writer might leave the press room one day and get as an actual total yardage for the course each day? That would be interesting information.
04.15.2009 | Unregistered Commenterdfoster
I've been shaking my head while it seems the golf world unanimously declares all is well at Augusta. Let's see...

* The course was so soft players were backing up drivers in the middle of the fairway. Whether that be due to nature or man, it doesn't really matter, it's not the norm. It's definitely not the way the course was designed to play.

* During the US broadcast the words "Rae's Creek" were not uttered on Sunday afternoon. One of the greatest architectural elements in golf has become irrelevant - especially on #13.

* In reality, if the two best players in the world hadn't put on such an amazing show we'd be talking about the train wreck in the last two groups and a few chargers named Merrick, Flesch and McIlroy - none of whom to be honest had a chance.

This year's Masters was barely saved by perfect weather, a desperate setup and the two biggest draws in golf stepping up at the right moment.
04.15.2009 | Unregistered CommenterJack
No, but the weather didn't hurt this year. The last 2 years with the cold northerly wind, people were hitting driver dead center on 13 and 15 and laying up.

I think one of the problems is that ANGC needs to build some intermediate tee boxes, to set up the course depending on conditions, or just for variety.

The course is at least slightly better, width wise, and I hear people who have played there as guests say it is only narrow for them on #7. But I do hope that more trees get removed for next year, and I think we will continue to see slow progress in that direction, as thusgone suggests.
04.15.2009 | Unregistered Commenterchucky
Does anyone remember when a full shot into any green at ANGC would take a deep gouge out of the green, which is what happened this year over and over again? I remember once in the late 90s sitting on the hill to the left of 17 green (a patron stand or whatever they call bleachers at ANGC is there now) on a Masters Tuesday and watching 10 groups come through. Not a single shot left so much as a perceptible dent in the green, much less a bomb crater. The shots that came in just a little hot ended up in no man's land over the green. Well struck shots held the green, which was typically fast and devilish. Anyway, I think the soft greens made most of the difference this year. Soft greens at Augusta in the absence of a deluge? Ridiculous.
Anyone who wishes to comment on the old ANGC versus the present iteration would do well to read Daniel Wexler's excellent article on the subject at golfclubatlas.com.
04.15.2009 | Unregistered CommenterMike T.
Not to take issue with the central theme here--that the course setup could still be better--but a reminder that historically 276 is a great score in this tournament. Only 8 times in the entire history of the Masters has the winner come in lower than 276. FWIW, the average winning score in the 2000s (279.9) is definitely higher than the 1990s (276.5), but lower than the 1980s (280.6) and 1960s (280.1). Steve Elling's perspective doesn't seem to go back that far.

Also I disagree with the idea that Cabrera was a fluke winner. But enough for now.
04.15.2009 | Unregistered CommenterTom
So all you moaners won't be watching next year?
04.15.2009 | Unregistered CommenterIan C
Ian, I watch EVERY year. That is how I know that Geoff, as well as commenters Paul and KyLaffoonsGhost above, are right about the massively-soaked fairways and greens.

Let's not forget that we saw the same kind of play on Thursday and Friday, before any Friday night rains. None of this was an accident; there was no freak weather, it was basically perfect weather. The unreal receptiveness of the greens, particularly on Sunday, had to have been completely purposeful.

As with the fairways. The wet fairways = "distance control." Too bad, the balls tend to collect mud when they do that...
04.15.2009 | Unregistered CommenterChuck
so is the takeaway that they secretly watered down the golf course so it would play less severely? isn't there a google satellite app that will let us check to see when they ran the sprinklers or hoses during the off hours of the weekend or something? where's tmz on this breaking scandal?
04.15.2009 | Unregistered Commenterthusgone
Were any of you people ther?! You speculate about all kinds of crap, but know very little. The storm that blew through Augusta Friday evening dropped over 1 1/2 to 2" of rain and hail (including tornadoes). Maybe that had something to do with the softer greens?
04.15.2009 | Unregistered Commenterwere you there?
Did anyone else read that Perry had mud on his ball on #10 in the playoff?

http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/story/640203.html
04.15.2009 | Unregistered Commenterdfoster
There are so many posts that I have to take issue with I don't know where to start, but here I go:

Paul: I don't know what you are talking about. I think you should go back and watch some of the old footage and re-examine your thesis. I don't recall Jack and the boys aiming away from too many pins in there old style charges for the lead.

Brandon Tucker: What?? Cabrerra is a two -time major winner. While you may not know him well, that is your deficiency, not Augusta National's

Jack: you're out to lunch. In one breath they are talking about the weather helping by allowing the golf course to play firm and fast in the fairways, but you are talking about the drives not going anywhere as if that were easy. Just so you have the facts straight, the players hate it when the course is wet because it plays extremely LONG (as you say: drives back up in the fairway). There were many players who were able to get thier drives to run out a fair amount. The greens have a sub-air system so Augusta can basically set them up exactly how they want them.....bravo they allowed great shots to be rewarded with scoring if the player could putt. Your point about who played well, has absolutely nothing to do with the golf course and everything to do with those players. The scores were there, the names you mentioned proove that........the fact that the names didn't match what you wanted to see means nothing.

Ghost: I don't know why you would call it ridiculous when the golf course is setup so the greens accept great shots and repel poor shots? I don't get it, they did a great job of making sure players who executed perfectly were rewarded and you are critical?? You wanted to see crazy hard greens? and scores way above par?

Tom: agree.

Chuck: you do know that there was a storm that moved through the area on Friday night right? you do know it rained and they don't have a roof over the course?

Augusta have complete control over the firmness of the greens with the systems they have in place. They played the way they wanted them to.

Augusta plays LESS severely when the fairways are hard and fast, not wet and slow. So the idea that they watered the course to make it play less severely is nonsensical.
were you there,
We didn't have as good of a perch as you of course! :)

Of course we are all well aware of the weather and as you may recall, the greens were soft before that storm.
04.15.2009 | Registered CommenterGeoff
Arsehole: Not sure who is talking about the weather allowing the course to play firm and fast. I think everyone on this side of the fence is saying the weather softened the course and certainly allowed approaches to stick. Drives were definitely backing up or one hopping a foot or two. Surely you saw a good few examples of that. Of course some drives ran out but many damn near plugged. That course was not firm and fast. And yet it still played short.

This discussion is not really about the course. It's about equipment and how it is ruining courses. Forcing committees to take drastic measures and sometimes make huge architectural errors.

My point about who played well is relevant. What many of us miss is a Sunday back nine full of roars from all over the place. Players going low and others missing by a razor's edge and falling out of the race. That didn't happen this year. Two players provided a fantastic show and pretty much hid the fact that nothing else was going on. If you take them out of the mix the highlights were not drawn from the players who ultimately made the playoff. Beyond Woods and Mickelson nobody came from even 3-4 down to challenge. And nobody on top tumbled in a blaze of almost glory. Full credit to the three guys I mentioned but they were too far back. By the way, I would have liked nothing more than to see McIlroy challenge so your assumption about my preferences is incorrect.

Lunch was yummie.
04.15.2009 | Unregistered CommenterJack
Well, let's see, Mr. Arsehole. One of the first shots I saw during the live streaming video on Thursday made a crater in the green it hit. That might have been on #12, which is at the lowest point on the course, in the shade a good bit, and therefore subject to be a little damp. Except of course for the SubAir System installed under that green (http://www.subairsystems.com/), which is designed to prevent just that from happening, as you point out. This, it should be noted was before the rain. When a full shot hits a green and produces a little bomb crater it makes no difference whether it was well struck or not unless it was hit so thin that only a net would stop it. It would be hard to get the ball to really back up under those circumstances, but not hard to hold the green, no matter what spin you imparted to the ball from whatever lie. Which means that such a green is not, in your words "setup so the greens accept great shots." More like the typical target golf played week to week on Tour.

You might also re-read my comment about the 17th green I observed about 10 years ago (admittedly and eon ago in golf years): "Not a single shot left so much as a perceptible dent in the green, much less a bomb crater. The shots that came in just a little hot ended up in no man's land over the green. Well struck shots held the green, which was typically fast and devilish." Key sentence: Well struck shots held the green. That would mean those that came in with the right amount of spin at the right trajectory. It has previously been written about ANGC (pre-Hootie, pre-ProV1, pre-460cc titanium driver) that some shots require a 6-iron hit perfectly, not a 5-iron hit half-assedly, or a 7-iron hit too hard. You know, like the 180-yard 6-iron Ben Crenshaw hit on 16 in his final round on Sunday in 1995.

You and I agree on this: "Augusta have complete control over the firmness of the greens with the systems they have in place. They played the way they wanted them to." So they must have wanted them to be really soft, right? And able to accept any half decent shot from any direction. Or to quote Bob Jones: "When one goes to the trouble of placing a bunker across the left side of the green in order to force the tee shot toward the right side of the fairway, why destroy its effect by soaking the green so that any sort of pitch over the bunker will hold?"

As for your comment about Jack et al. not taking dead aim at the hole in those glorious charges of the past, you might also go back and take a look. Jack on 16 on Sunday in 1986 would be a good place to begin.

Finally, I am fairly baffled by this comment from you: "Augusta plays LESS severely when the fairways are hard and fast, not wet and slow." For you and me, maybe. By the way, do you play golf? I suppose the course does play easier for the golfer for whom "bogies are frankly sought" (Bob Jones again), when the ball rolls and rolls. The occasional straight, low, screaming 250-yard drive by an 18-handicapper on a hard, dried out Bermuda fairway is the reason he thinks that's how far he hits his driver, after all. Try telling that to the Masters contestant who in the old days might have hooked his tee shot on 15 and sent it into the old pines blocking his approach to the green. Or the drives that used to bound into the right woods on 14. Or the drives that didn't hook and used to end up in no mans land on the right of the 10th fairway; or the ones that hooked too much and end up in the camellias at the bottom of the hill on the left. Then there is the straight ball on 13 into the pine straw near the snickering patrons who want to see whether the second shot flies into the creek or bounces in on one hop. Lets not even get into the hooked approach shot at 8 or the hooked drive on the first hole that would end up in the pine straw behind a tree without the second cut to slow it down.

One last question: Are you a member of Augusta National?
Just wondering if Arsehole and Ky are the same troll.
04.15.2009 | Unregistered CommenterJohn Simpson
Good one, John! But, alas, no. Arsehole and Ky are not the same troll. LOL! For one thing, I could never write, even as a troll, that soft greens reward good play. I also know how to spell "Cabrera." However, I have been called by Mr. Arsehole's last name, but only in the American pronunciation I would think. So maybe that is what you are thinking about.
I keep hearing about how much rain the Augusta area got on Friday night. But Geoff's right; they were soft before those rains. Those soft greens were not an accident; they wre no artifact of one rainstorm. It was clearly intended. It was intended, and successful, as far as the intent went. They wanted a certain kind of scoring and got it.

And yeah, the wetter fairways slowed things down as well, making it longer for the players. (Yet another defense to the Pro V1, the deepest-face drivers in the history of golf, and Ozik Matrix shafts, yes?)

Who can seriously argue but that Augusta would be much more interesting with its old width, fewer trees, rolled-back golf balls and firmer greens and fairways? There'd be fewer mud-balls at least...
04.15.2009 | Unregistered CommenterChuck
Ky,

You are obviously an intelligent and thoughtful golf watcher/spectator perhaps player and I don't totally disagree with everything you have said. Having said that I must point out to you that I never said "soft greens reward good play", you and I have a difference of opinion on what constitutes "soft greens". We each have an axe to grind so we perhaps go out of our way to make our point with exageration. For you to compare the setup at the masters this past week with "the typical target golf played week to week on Tour" demonstrates the technique of exageration very well. There are many many of the best players on earth (some who missed the cut) who would argue with you that those greens were not soft and that was not typical target golf.

To hold the green within a distance for a "realistic" birdie putt on 17 required a great shot, with the correct amount of spin coming in on the correct trajectory. That is how I saw it, especially when the leader made a small miscalculation and it lead to a bogie.

I would not call those greens "really soft", and again I don't think many of the players would either.

In 1986 Jack Nicklaus took DEAD AIM at the pin on 16 and the ball grabbed the green and spun backwards way more than any shots did on Sunday this year.....so it prooves my point. What I said was: "I don't recall Jack and the boys aiming away from too many pins in their old style charges for the lead." That was in response to Paul saying "they couldn't take dead aim at any pins back in the day"

Every single pro who goes to the Masters each year says if the course plays hard and fast in the fairways it will be a much easier week. If the rains come, they say it will take more than half the field out of the running because they can't carry it far enough and will have to hit impossibly long clubs into the greens. This is not my opinion, it's a matter of fact - if you go back and listen to interviews from the players over the last decade, it's been repeated time and again. For you to be baffled by that statement, is in fact, baffling.

I believe I have presented my position in a logical and thoughtful manner, I think you should now see things my way......LOL. That's a joke by the way.
Touche, TDA! Excellent response. I look forward discussing this further with you at the first GeoffShack Open. And no, I don't want to see rock hard greens at the Masters that are impossible. But seeing balls go splat on a green at the Masters really is a lot like Tour Target Golf, and unworthy of the Masters. About the hard and fast conditions, I do think you have a point. They all like it in the abstract and the golfer who wins under those conditions will have truly played outstanding golf. The others, not so much since there is very little room for error under those conditions. And that's my point. One more thing, in 1986 Jack indeed took dead aim, but at the spot above and to the right of the hole that would allow a properly struck shot to feed down toward the hole. Which is why he nearly made a one there.
Nicklaus also landed his approach two feet from the hole on 15 and stopped it ten feet behind, from 214 yards. Tom Kite took dead aim at the flag on 11 with a four-iron, and stuck it six feet left of the flag. Tom Watson sucked back a nine iron six feet on the DOWNHILL spot short of the pin on 14. Point: While 1986 is for many of us the benchmark Masters, many seem to have forgotten just how much the soft greens (I bet they were softer than this year) enabled the fireworks that year.
04.16.2009 | Unregistered CommenterHawkeye

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