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Saturday
May162009

"Kenny has got a lie – it's a down-grain lie but there is a big clump of down-grain grass behind it"

Lawrence Donegan follows up with a more extensive piece sharing a variety of opinions on the Kenny Perry-FBR-Open-controversy first noted earlier this week.

"When I first heard stories about the video I thought, 'I hope Kenny is not being maligned.' And then when I saw it, I was shocked," says Brandel Chamblee, a former PGA Tour player and now a well-respected analyst with the Golf Channel. "What you can say in his defence is that there is no way he was trying to get away with something on a grand scale. The camera was right there and he knew there were millions of people watching on TV. But I was also shocked that no one who was watching at home called in, or that no one who was doing the television coverage mentioned anything about it on air."

It should be noted that the Super Bowl had begun, so the audience at that point was tiny.

John Huggan says this about the incident.

Even the man beaten in the play-off, Charley Hoffman, wanted nothing to do with pointing out the obvious. "I have no problem with that," he gasped. "We all do it."

If what Hoffman claims is true, not only does golf at the highest level have a serious problem, but some education in the area of what does and does not constitute "improving one's lie" is badly needed.

This zoomed in version of the original is below and also on YouTube in a slightly wider version. Note David Feherty's description of the lie as Perry places his club behind the ball.

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Reader Comments (25)

Oh but don't forget that PGA Tour players call penalties on themselves!

On another note, it was interesting to read in the article that for the first time, the "young pro" in one of the oldest and most widely-told anecdotes about shotmaking was identified as Ben Crenshaw. Christy O'Connor is usually the protagonist in the story, but the "young pro" has previously been anonymous in all the incarnations I've read. It does give the story an added storyline - young American gun meets old Irish sage, young American obviousy learns a thing or two and becomes Masters champion and links golf advocate - but the bs-detector in me went off. I wonder, did the event really occur, or is Dubya's buddy simply trying to secure a place in golfing lore by spreading a version with himself in it?
05.16.2009 | Unregistered CommenterHawkeye
Feherty seems to stammer as he's noting the difficulty of the lie while Kenny improves it.

Why is this story coming out now? Nothing can be done. Seems like odd timing. Not that it makes the situation any less disturbing.
05.17.2009 | Unregistered CommenterDavidC
I read about this last week and just saw it on the video for the first time - I must admit it doesn't look good.
05.17.2009 | Unregistered Commentertitleist38
wow. i hadn't really focused on this until now. although i make no pretense to knowing the rules well, kenny's tamping of the grass looks bad to me in the sense that i wouldn't have done it myself if faced with a similar lie in competition.
05.17.2009 | Unregistered Commenterthusgone
It's a good thing Donegan brought up Perry's religion, implying he's a hypocrite. Next week I hope he writes about Jews jangling their pocket change while their opponents putt. I hate that, don't you?
05.17.2009 | Unregistered CommenterSome guy
Now that my recollection has been refreshed by this video, I remember watching it live on tv and thought that this looked highly questionable.

someguy: What's your point?
05.17.2009 | Unregistered CommenterSteven T.
effing cheater!!
05.17.2009 | Unregistered Commenterredneck
@Steven T

Um, that Donegan's a bigot? Isn't it obvious?
05.17.2009 | Unregistered CommenterSome guy
Certainly looks like a penalty to me.
05.17.2009 | Unregistered CommenterJoey
Oh no, the PC police are here! They've moved on from Feherty it seems. How is it being a bigot to point out someone is a hypocrite? If the shoe fits...

Anyway, back to Perry. I've never liked him and now I know that his Augusta meltdown was old fashioned karma. The golf gods always have the last laugh.
05.17.2009 | Unregistered Commenterjason
The part of Donegan's article I don't really understand is John Parmor's explanation of why Kenny Perry did not commit a rules' violation:

"Fortunately for Perry, and for golf, Paramor was happy to make the case publicly for the player. "The fact is the player is allowed to put his club behind the ball, otherwise he would never be allowed to address his ball in any circumstance. As soon as any player puts his club on the grass behind the ball, then the grass will be flattened," he says. "The issue is, is there excessive pressing down with the club?" In other words, was there intent? "Looking at this, I don't think Kenny Perry did use excessive pressure when he put his club behind the ball. It does look bad, it does look like the lie was improved but, as long as there was no intent to do so, and I don't think there was, then it is not a penalty.""

How in the world can anyone look at that video and not come away convinced that Perry's sole intent in tapping on that grass was to move it out of the way of the ball? Paramor's explanation would fly with me if Perry was addressing the ball (at the time he soled the club) in an effort to line up his shot. But as he was pressing the grass down prior to taking a practice swing or addressing the ball, I find Paramor's explanation somewhat questionable.

I think there is a simple reason that everyone's first reaction is "the guy has done something bad" - he's improving his lie, right?
05.17.2009 | Unregistered CommenterAnon
This kind of belated debate kills me. If a guy is cleared by rules officials and/or if the event is over and it's months down the road, it's over. Move on. You really can't believe that Kenny Perry was trying to pull a fast one knowing that cameras would be watching. If it's a mistake, it's an honest one.

What I'm most curious about is the comment from Jason who wrote "I've never liked him." Really? Kenny Perry somehow seemed unlikeable to you? Really?
05.17.2009 | Unregistered CommenterScotty
...and Nathan Green didn't whiff that tap-in in New Orleans last month? Apparently those cameras can play tricks on you.
05.17.2009 | Unregistered CommenterNRH
nrh: i don't think the issue is whether or not kenny was "trying to pull a fast one", but whether he broke the rules by improving his lie. the fact that a camera is on a golfer when he or she commits a violation has no relevance to whether a violation has been committed.

as for discussing the rulings of officials after the fact, i'd guess a significant percentage of all sports conversations involve the correctness, vel non, of such calls. i see no reason why golf should be any different.

finally, these sorts of discussions are usually pretty edifying for me with respect to my own conduct on the golf course. following kenny's and the rules officials instructive example here, henceforth, i shall spend a good few seconds tamping down any inconvenient grass before addressing my ball in the rough. (this last part is intended facetiously).
05.17.2009 | Unregistered Commenterthusgone
jason, the golf gods were apparently absent when Mark It'Neara won two majors the year after putting out from the ladies' tees while winning the Trophée Lancome.

And Scotty, what do you mean? Are you sarcastic or sincere about questioning if someone doesn't like Perry? I personally did certainly not root for him at Augusta after his boneheaded and insensitive comments at last year's Tour Championship.
05.17.2009 | Unregistered CommenterHawkeye
I think we all need to cut the man some slack; after all, he's spend his entire adult life being called Kenny. Surely that's punishment enough, isn't it.

Tim 'Timmy' Robinson
05.17.2009 | Unregistered CommenterTim
From that camera angle it's impossible to tell the true proximity of the club to the ball. I don't know the guy but Kenny sure seems like as standup as they come -- he should be given the benefit of the doubt, this is a non-issue IMO.
05.17.2009 | Unregistered CommenterSony
I agree Sony- the camera doesn't give a proper distance between the ball and club.
However he should have done it away from the ball therefore it looks bad.
05.17.2009 | Unregistered Commenterjjshaka
Could it be that...he stuck his club behind the ball like that to get a feel for the lie. Because he then went beside the ball and did the same thing followed by a practice swing. There seems to be just as many tamps beside the ball as behind it.
05.17.2009 | Unregistered CommenterRM
He's tapping the grass down a good 8-12 inches behind the ball. No way does a pro in a playoff bounce the club up and down so quickly behind their ball close enough that the ball could move. He was testing the depth and thickness of a grass well away from his ball so as not to cause it to move.
05.17.2009 | Unregistered CommenterJeremy
If you pause the clip at the last possible instant - on the close-up - it doesn't look to me as if grass has been tamped down directly behind the ball. I agree that the camera angle may be deceiving.
05.17.2009 | Unregistered CommenterCBell
gents-tournament's over. they handed the trophy to the winner. after that, there is no second guessing.

If Kenny can live with himself, i can too. the ball was sitting up. only he knows whether he improved his lie. i dont think he did.

but the point is, unlike cycling or baseball, where we get to hear the guy didn't really win 6 months after the event closes, in golf its over when they give out the trophy. i like it that way. its only a game.
05.17.2009 | Unregistered Commentersmails
How can anyone say Perry was addressing the ball? He is clearly using his club, with 1 hand on it only, to press down behind the ball prior to moving away and then going back in to address the ball. It's as clear as day that he has improved his lie! He should be disqualified from that event and asked to hand back the trophy.
I agree with dean. He considerably improved his lie and there are no excuses for that. He should have been disqualified earlier but its too late now.
05.28.2009 | Unregistered Commenterstef
I agree with Dean - Perry improved his lie and should have been DQ'd for not penalizing himself. This week he claimed he had the right to ground his club which may be true but not by improving his lie !!!! Rules violation plain & simple !!!!
06.7.2009 | Unregistered CommenterKenny perry

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