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« "Exactly why the board decided to let Finchem make the call remains, for the moment, unclear." | Main | And The PGA Tour's Groove Rule Verdict Is... »
Tuesday
30Jun2009

Titleist: "Disappointed"

Boy they work fast up there in Fairhaven. Hot off the presses:

Acushnet Statement re: U.S. PGA Tour Groove Decision

The Acushnet Company is disappointed that the U.S. PGA Tour has decided to adopt the Condition of Competition for the new groove rule effective January 1, 2010.

For the past several months we have communicated with the USGA, the R&A and various worldwide professional tours, our support for aligning adoption of the Condition of Competition with January 1, 2011, the date that manufacturers are required to begin shipping products with the new groove configuration. We believe that alignment of those dates is in the best interest of the professional tours, consumers, retailers and manufacturers. Below are some of the factors that we believe support our position.

Although Acushnet incorporated a new conforming groove configuration into its irons in 2007, we elected to wait to convert our wedges until after the USGA/R&A took final action on the groove proposal. Once the new groove dimensions were finalized, in the rule as adopted in August 2008, we developed a new groove for wedges and began tour player testing in March 2009. We have since tested a significant number of tour players comparing the current and the new groove configurations.

Our test results are consistent with testing conducted by the USGA/R&A that revealed a spin rate reduction of between 30% and 50% for full shots out of the rough. However, our testing also revealed significant changes in ball launch angle, ball trajectory, angle of descent and roll out on the green. The testing also revealed significant differences in performance depending on player club head speed and short game technique. Player reaction to what they saw was dramatic. They were caught off guard by the magnitude of the performance difference and expressed concern about the extent of the transition process.

Momentary pause here to run for my Kleenex box. Continue...

We believe, and players have confirmed, that the conversion process will not be a simple exchange of existing wedges with new grooves. The conversion process may involve different wedge designs and lofts, different shot technique, different golf balls and different set configuration (including drivers). These types of changes are iterative and take time. They also require significant support from players and equipment manufacturers. There are approximately 1,500 exempt tour players worldwide. We don’t believe that this extensive transition process will begin in earnest until late in 2009, when manufacturer tour support is almost non existent. That is particularly true for tours outside of the United States.

The groove rule change is the first time in the history of contemporary competitive golf that equipment performance has been rolled back. Making a change of this precedential significance requires that the conversion process be conducted in a thorough, deliberate manner taking the interests of all constituencies into account. Regardless of how much research and thought went into the development of the rule change, as with any significant change, there are unforeseen issues and complexity, particularly at the point of implementation and adoption. There is no way to predict many of these issues and they only surface during the actual conversion process, as described above. While no one is to blame for these circumstances, the major logistical issues of implementation still need to be taken into account.

Hey, maybe this will force more guys to show up at Kapalua!

One of the most significant consequences of this equipment roll back is that not aligning adoption of the Condition of Competition with the manufacturer sell by date creates a bifurcation between the equipment that the Tours are using and the equipment consumers have available in the market place. That disconnect is also unprecedented. Our research indicates that the majority of retailers and consumers only have an interest in product with the new groove configuration if product with current grooves is not available. On the current schedule that is January 1, 2011. We believe that alignment of these dates to January 1, 2011 is critical as it allows for a thoughtful, orderly and comprehensive implementation of the proposed new grooves for all parties. Non-alignment is not in the best interests of the game of golf and all of its constituencies.

Now that the USPGA Tour has voted to continue with a January 1, 2010 adoption (and we expect all professional tours to follow their lead), we will, as promised all along, make the effort to service all worldwide professional players as best we can. Our irons currently conform to the new rule and we will begin distribution of new wedge product to the professional tours shortly. However, the decision to adopt the Condition of Competition effective January 1, 2010 does not diminish or alter the challenges described above.

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The first victory in the battle against technology.
06.30.2009 | Unregistered CommenterSmolmania
You. Gotta. Love. This:

"The testing also revealed significant differences in performance depending on player club head speed and short game technique."

Wow. You mean to say, that players with better technique had better results?

I wish to hereby announce the motto for the next U.S. Open: "We're not trying to identify the best players in the world; we're trying to sponsor the best players in the world..."
06.30.2009 | Unregistered CommenterChuck
I too chuckled at the differences in performance part, but I am surprised Acushnet is not yet bringing up what will be some very legitimate points about the measuring and enforcement process. It sure sounds like it could be complicated and messy. Maybe they are saving that argument.
06.30.2009 | Unregistered CommenterOB
Hard to know where to begin with Wally's statement. It's wrong on so many levels.

But we don't have to worry about it now.

It's just whinning. Pathetic.

A tip of the hat to Finchem. I didn't think he had it in him.
06.30.2009 | Unregistered Commenterelwood
Actually, if you read the Titleist bleat carefully (I know, I know, you'd rather stab yourself with a dull knife), it becomes pretty clear that what they are really worried about is the Pro-V1 franchise.

As noted by Chuck and several other of us on a prior thread.
06.30.2009 | Unregistered Commenterelwood
When I bought my Titleist AP irons last year, Titleist made a point of telling me that my irons would be conforming under the new groove rules. There is no reason they cannot cut the same grooves into their 2010 Vokey wedges.

Basically, they are upset because they haven't figured out a way to get around the rule with a new groove desing for wedges.

Since the entire point of the rule was to reduce groove performance, I am not crying about this decison.
06.30.2009 | Unregistered CommenterBrad Ford
Brad, the thing about the Titleist AP1 and AP2 irons has interested me for days now.

The earliest that Titleist's club-staff professionals got them was December '07, is what I was told. That's the earliest of the early-adopting retail market. (Leave out tour-only, tour-van, prototypes.)

But the USGA groove ruling came out in August of '08, right? Titleist was that far ahead of the actual regulation? I don't know. I agree with what you wrote, by the way. The AP irons-compliance claim by Titleist, whether it is true or not, sure doesn't help their case on 'inability to prepare.' We pajama-wearing typists might just have forced Titleist to refine its argument in the way we see in the press release --

'Sure, the irons are no problem, but wedges are different. Our boys might go to 64 degrees, so there, blazer-wearers! And when you try to return some of that spin to the ball, well then it just screws up all the numbers on the launch monitors, so we have to build new drivers for these guys...'

And you know what? I believe Titleist. Dick Rugge is looking smarter and smarter by the hour...
06.30.2009 | Unregistered CommenterChuck
Laughing at this also.

1) "We cannot, with a couple of years warning have enough clubs ready to re-equip all the pro's, so we recommend moving it back to the same time we ALSO have to have the new clubs ready for all retail market!" (1/1/2011)

2) " Projects like this MUST allow for significant conversion time, and we wasted ours complaining and now need more."

As for the rest, I think Titleist is worried about everything. When you are the market leader, you don't want disruptions that cause people to have to test and change equipment. Too many chances to lose market share.

1) Driver market share -- If everyone has to change drivers also, perhaps the lack of an adjustable driver will hurt them in the below PGA competitive ranks.

2) Rumors are Volkey has not found a wedge grove they are happy with and market share is threatened.

3) V1 costs. They have spent a lot of money retooling, thanks to the lawsuit, and it is highly expensive to retool again.
06.30.2009 | Unregistered CommenterMarc
Get it right up ya Wally!!!!!!!What odds on Bridgestone being no.1 on tour by the end of 2010?
06.30.2009 | Unregistered Commenterchico
Golf wins! The Spirit of Golf in America still has a fighting chance!

BTW, I have used my last Titleist product. I was down to using the balls once in a while--but I'm over them. Oh, and their shoes suck too!
06.30.2009 | Unregistered CommenterTommy Naccarato
Lest it go unnoticed, or not understood --

The reason for the "window" of calendar year 2010, with the manufacturing dro-dead date of Jan. 1, 2011, is this;

The USGA wanted to give manufacturers with components in process a full year to move the component parts through the manufacturing, inventory and distribution processes. It was a favor, and a reasonable accomodation, that the USGA granted to manufacturers. The manufacturers have a full year to move out all old-spec clubheads that were cast, forged, and finished by Dec. 31, 2009, get them fitted with shafts and grips, and get them out to retailers. (Who can then sell them, legally under the Rules of Golf, anytime.) No lost inventory, no 'non-conforming' inventory, no fire sales, no waiting to buy or to sell clubs on New Year's eve.

For Titleist to take the position that an extra year is somehow needed, to coordinate with a 2011 cutoff date, and it is unfair or unjust or nonsensical to deny that request, is BALONEY. The extra year of manufacturing in process was for the manufacturers' benefit and for their own clarity.

But I give Titlieist's press release lawyers high marks for creativity and malevolence.
06.30.2009 | Unregistered CommenterChuck
Someone might actually get punished for a bad shot by the time this slippery slope is slid. How about that.
06.30.2009 | Unregistered CommenterMorg
Without posting quotes from the Titleist press release above, I find it interesting that they are worried about players struggling with the new groove technology. I have been saying for several years now that these guys lack the talent of the pre-square/box groove generations around the greens. And YES, of course they are getting huge fliers out of the rough, what is wrong with that, maybe they will learn the importance of hitting fairways!!!!

As for the ball issue...

I think someone above hit the nail on the head, re-tooling is expensive, and the ball our now will not work with the new grooves.

It is going to be interesting
06.30.2009 | Unregistered CommenterJay Townsend
I must confess to amazement that Tim F actually stood up to the manufacturers on this issue. . . and can't help but wonder why. In any event, it will be very cool to see guys not being able to spin balls backward on 80 yard shots from the rough. They won't be able to robotically fly balls at every pin, no matter where there drive or approach ended up. In other words, they'll have to play the game the way us chops play -- bifurcation hell, this is making the big kids play like we do!
06.30.2009 | Unregistered CommenterSmolmania
This is the head scratching quote for me:

"The groove rule change is the first time in the history of contemporary competitive golf that equipment performance has been rolled back. Making a change of this precedential significance requires that the conversion process be conducted in a thorough, deliberate manner taking the interests of all constituencies into account."

There sure have been plenty of recent instances where equipment performances have been "rolled forward" and the players have adjusted on the fly without any mess or fuss whatsoever. They all tested and tried hybrids during the season, in practice rounds, on the practice tee, on weeks off at home etc. Adding hybrids would have changed set makeup too, what club do you drop, what lofts do I need on my fairway wood, on the hybrids and the longer irons etc.

When new ball technology comes out, same deal, they test at home, on the range, practice rounds etc. Same for large driver heads, adjustable weights, shafts types and material, etc etc and on and on. All these new technologies are designed to help them so they don't whine one little bit, they are excited and happy to test on the fly and implement as soon as they are ready. The players are always testing new equipment and new technology.

This is no different, this is just new technology again, just this time it just isn't going to help them so they cry foul! They are all hiding behind this being a "NEW RULE" rather just "new equipment" to get use to like they have been doing for years. Since it hurts them they hate it. PATHETIC!!!!
06.30.2009 | Unregistered CommenterJT
As a Titleist professional, I'm baffled by Titleist's reaction. I understand their point about having different grooves on retail vs. tour models, but...just don't worry about it and start selling conforming wedges next January. Am I right? Be first!

This will of course require a new ball, new driver, etc. I look forward to the challenge and the innovation challenge. I'm sure the ball guys and Vokey are eager to take on the challenge.
06.30.2009 | Unregistered CommenterRyan Crysler
Tim F may not be motivated to deal with finding new sponsors for 1/2 or more of the events in the next four years as well as the broadcasting rights. He likely has enough cash to retire comfortably and let someone else deal with these problems. When you don't give a ____ about personal loss it is easier to take the hard position. Maybe he can run for Governor in South Carolina.

I agree this is all about the Pro V1 ball.

Also didn't most of the players immediately put the Pro V1 into play the week it was approved. I believe the winner used it the first week on the approved list.
06.30.2009 | Unregistered Commenterpaboy
maybe somebody will actually appreciate what the USGA is doing for once. better them than the profiteers who really don't care about the game.
07.1.2009 | Unregistered Commenteroldtimer
Titleist Kleenex ? The thought never occurred.

I think you better be using Titleist toilet paper on this mess of a press release.
07.1.2009 | Unregistered Commenterjohnny knoxville
Geoff,

Just from a leadership perspective, I would have rather had Titleist tout how our new fitting process will educate and enhance our players' games rather than complaining about the time factor. We've known about this for quite a while.

Titleist needs to be the FIRST and LEADER in the custom fitting market and what better opportunity to make this happen beginning January 1, 2010. My account is based on bringing a "tour-like" experience home to my players I and guarantee my mini-tour players at the very least will be looking to me for advice and proper fitting beginning next year. If I don't have product in my hand that conforms, I will be at a serious disadvantage, especially if other companies beat Titleist to the market.
07.1.2009 | Unregistered CommenterRyan Crysler

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