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Sunday
Jul192009

Rough Questions For The R&A

I know that course setup talk has most writers longing for a return to the cricket beat, but the excessive role of Turnberry's rough deserves more scrutiny. And since several scribblers have access to the R&A's Peter Dawson the Monday following, we can only hope they'll probe about the course preparations that he is so much a part of.

On American TV we heard consistently about the "thick undergrowth" of "overseeded rye and bent" grasses. Native grasses on a links are traditionally fescue with other grasses mixed in, but I sensed that the repeated use of "overseeded rye and bent" was a subtle message from Curtis Strange, Tom Weiskopf and Paul Azinger that they found the dense undergrowth situation peculiar. And certainly the R&A's pre-tournament implication was that "nature" created this situation. 

But lost ball rough next to a par-3 green? That is not the product of nature.

Some will argue that the course having been closed for so many months leading up to the championship led to such a situation. No traffic certainly is a legitimate explanation but there was also evidence of irrigation overspray in some of the more penal roughs. If it's a wet spring, why is irrigation necessary?

I'm no agronomist, but there are ways to thin excessive rough if you deem it excessive (they're called sheep). It's also worth asking if a special overseed took place either for aesthetic or resistance to scoring purposes.

Another lesser issue is the lack of width. It's no secret that the R&A drove changes to Turnberry, including over 200 yards of length and 21 new bunkers. The R&A contends that the course was not narrowed since 1994 and the slivers of fairways surrounded by lost ball rough are all merely a product of nature. But as we saw, with firm conditions and a typical 20 m.p.h. wind, things can get a bit goofy.

Dawson, who supervised the changes, defends the fairway widths as merely working around the bunkering. But as you may have noticed, nearly all of the new bunkers tightened the course and were designed to put the player on the defensive. So yes, the bunkers dictate the width, but then that means the R&A is using bunkers to narrow the course. Why?

And is this really the essence of links golf, or still ultimately about reducing the number of times players can hit drivers and reveal just how far they can drive it with today's equipment?

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Reader Comments (20)

Geoff, That set-up this week was superb in the main. Sure, there was some juiced up rough in spots where it may not have been needed, but come on.. the test in the areas of play (where one SHOULD be) was fine. It was an awesome tactical challenge. The firmness, pins etc. were spot on. To me, this was the most riveting Open in many years. While the play was spotty down the stretch for some, that was a function of the windy conditions and demanding set-up.The player had to think about every shot, that's why Old Tom was there in the end...he had the most experience and best brain...the flat-stick cost him in the end. Thank you for providing great coverage and observations this week!
07.19.2009 | Unregistered Commentersir real
Geoff: Methinks you are giving Curtis Strange way too much credit for his bloviating about the types of grasses that were "overseeded" in the Turnberry rough. I would like to see his source for that claim. If he has no relaible source (say, the keeper of the green at Turnberry), he was violating the rule that you just don't talk about stuff you don't know. At that point in the telecast, everyone was better off simply turning the sound off.
07.19.2009 | Unregistered Commentercmoore
Also, the right of 15 green looked just like it did this week when I played there in 2006. You just can't hit it there.
07.19.2009 | Unregistered Commentercmoore
I thought Curtis Strange was dropped several years ago. Was that CBS? Why is he back? Weiskopf and less talk would have been better. No banter between Azinger and Strange, very stiff telecast.
07.19.2009 | Unregistered CommenterLynn S.
Some rough is rougher than others. It's not supposed to be a uniform length it's a hazard.
07.20.2009 | Unregistered CommenterIan C
I have less of an issue with the rough and fairway widths than the hole locations (esp Friday). I found Turnberry to be an unbelievable test of strategy. Challenge the hazards from the tee and be rewarded on the approach. Lay back from the tee and the second becomes much more difficult. However a steady diet of short side pins to the wind direction was not needed. By the way,here at home, we had rain 23 days in June and the fescue rough is WORSE than what I saw at Turnberry. No conspiracies here...just too much water.
07.20.2009 | Unregistered Commenterquestion?
I too found no problems with the fairway widths or the length of the grasses. It's set amongst big dunes - it's not St. Andrews with its 200-yard-wide first fairway.

Players had to play the wind. If you were in the junk, you hadn't done that successfully.
07.20.2009 | Unregistered CommenterErik J. Barzeski
There was one element of truth in that post: "I'm no agronomist".

By-the-way, sheep don't thin grasses, they mow it down. If they introduced sheep, they would have eaten it down to nothing, that's why the grasses in sheep fields are always so short.
07.20.2009 | Unregistered CommenterRobert the Bruce
IMO, complaining about the 'ruffs' at Turnberry is like saying a water hazard is too deep.
07.20.2009 | Unregistered CommenterChucky Chipper
I simply didn't think that the rough was as much of a story as it could have been. For the most part, I just saw horribly struck shots get punished by the gnarly rough. I'm ok with that - it's when good and even 'so-so' shots start getting eaten up that things get out of control.

If what we're suggesting around here about juiced up rough is true, then I think the R & A got lucky last week. The dry & windy conditions seemed to make driver optional, which seemingly lead to avoidance of the worst of the rough. At least, that was what I saw during the broadcast.
07.20.2009 | Unregistered Commenterdsl
Ok, having been there all week walking the fairways working, I have to take exception to
some of the criticisms. The fairways were NOT too narrow, they were actually generous in my mind, just don't miss them. The rough was not "juiced"!!!! It was the result of nature and lack of play prior to the championship.

As for tough pins, I saw one that was uncalled for in my opinion, that was the 15th on Saturday, and only because it was about 6 feet too far right and on a bit of a slope.

Let me address this complaining about pins once and for all:

THE BALL!!!!!

The players have chosen a ball with a LOW spin rate that enables them to hit it further. That same ball does not allow them to spin the ball to hold it against a wind or spin it to stop to the ball in the event of a tight pin.

Todays players lay up off the tees more so than players of yesteryear, so they leave themselves longer shots into the "bad pins". PULEEZ

If they are so talented, lets see them not layup and hit it further down the fairway (which were plenty wide) and give themselves shorter shots into the greens, and THEN they would not have a problem hitting into the "bad pins"!!!!!

Everything in life and golf is a tradeoff, play safe off the tee, face a more difficult second shot, or vice-versa.

But please, stop the complaining!!!!
07.20.2009 | Unregistered CommenterJay Townsend
Lynn S.,

I'm thinking when Strange became eligible for the Champions tour, he and ABC parted ways as their contract was about up.

Now that his Champions tour venture didn't go anywhere, I guess he is now edging back into broadcasting, unfortunately.

Agree that Weiskopf is good. Reminds me somewhat of Oosterhuis in that they set the scene well and then know to zip it.
07.20.2009 | Unregistered CommenterDBCooper
I've been singularly unimpressed with Weiskopf (tho I haven't watched final round yet). Haven't heard anything I didn't already know come out of his mouth (boy, you mean you can't miss short or right on 16, Tom?). Zinger is still great. NBC or CBS should snap him up, tho it would seem that he hasn't quite given up on his playing career quite yet. Curtis is still Curtis. He fits more into TNT's realm - their coverage was almost unwatchable. If not for my dvr I'd have gone absolutely batshit over their lack of golf coverage. Okay Mr. Huber, we know they used the place to train RAF pilots. Now show me some golf. . .
07.20.2009 | Unregistered CommenterSmolmania
Geoff - You are absolutely correct when you say "i'm no agronomist". "Irrigation overspray" - in the UK it is called rain. "Overseeded rye and bent"- in the UK there is also wind - it blows stuff around - (including grass seeds).
07.20.2009 | Unregistered Commentertitleist38
Who is the agronimist among Strange, Weiskopf and Azinger?
07.20.2009 | Unregistered Commentertitleist38
This post is definitely FWIW and for most that will be not much.

Somewhere I read the complaint of a steady diet of pin positions on the upwind sides of holes, where the wind made it impossible to get close. As it happens, I kept track of the pin positions (don’t ask why). They were available from the official Open website. I did a very simplistic, one-dimensional analysis of the 12 pins on "main axis" holes (the other 6 lie at various angles) with respect to the wind on Friday and Saturday. For simplicity I assumed the crosswind on Friday and Saturday was perpendicular to the main axis, straight off the sea. The pin positions on main-axis holes I called “penal” with regard to wind direction if they were right-side pins on 1,3,13,15-17; and left-side pins on 2, 4-8. Note that this discounts all other hazards, e.g. proximity to bunkers. As I said, it is a one-dimensional analysis. It is true that on 16 the pin was near the burn all 4 days, thrice on right and once left-front.

Friday pins--3 out of 12 I counted as penal from the wind (3,7,17).
Saturday pins: 4 out of 12 I counted as penal from wind (1,13,15,16).

This obviously ignores a lot, like 1/3 of the golf course. But FWIW it does NOT suggest a steady diet of pins that were impossible to get at due to the wind.
07.20.2009 | Unregistered CommenterTom
titleist,
A couple of things.

First I know the difference between natives hit with a lot of rain and natives hit with irrigation. You can see the circular shape in the greenery. Not hard to spot, even for a fool like me. Having worked on a prairie golf course now, it's a huge issue.

As for the announcers, do keep in mind they are more careful about what they say these days and generally go through briefings, quite often with the course staff, tournament officials, etc... these days. I'm not saying that happened here, but it's entirely possible. They were quite consistent in their paraphrasing.
07.20.2009 | Registered CommenterGeoff
I didn't pay that much attention to the setup. I did notice that many of the bunkers made use of the links most fearsome dual dangers: closely mown grass and gravity. Short grass feeding shots into the bunkers made the bunkers influence a much larger area of play than simply the ground where they were dug. Westwood's tee shot on 18 being a dramatic example of this. I can't really say how much this supports Geoff's points about narrowing the fairways. I do know that this is a common hazzard on the old links I've played and a favorite of designers like Tom Doak and Crenshaw & Coore.
07.20.2009 | Unregistered Commenterfishman
Vacationing in the south west of Scotland over the last couple of weeks, I've played several links courses within a 40-mile radius of Turnberry. On all of them the rough was very thick indeed; but this growth was the result of a mild, wet spring followed by a magnificent June. For "real" rough, and a (golf) setting as memorable as Turnberry, play the brilliant Machrie course on the Isle of Islay.

Also, the winds experienced were no more or less than normal for the area, or for many championship locations in the US.

The point is that - apart from its length - Turnberry was set up in the same fashion as all links courses in Britain and Ireland are for their members and visitors on a normal round.

I think what offends western hemisphere golfers is that the penalty for landing in the rough is potentially so much greater than for, say, landing in a water hazard. Once you find your ball your problems are just starting. As we saw often during the Open it can take several shots to re-establish yourself on short grass. The lesson - banal but true - don't hit the ball into the hay!

Well done, Mr. Cink, a great finish under pressure. It's regrettable that'll the 2009 Open will always be remembered for Mr. Watson's quite extraordinary physical and mental effort - one which I, being older than he, regard as scarcely credible.
07.21.2009 | Unregistered CommenterJohn, Bermuda
John, Bermuda - The first paragraph of your comment is the point I was trying to make to Geoff. The difference in the rough this year from the end of May to around the third week in June was startling.

Also if you drive down any country road in Scotland at this time of year and look at the hedgerows you will see grass which is exactly the same length and thickness as the rough on links courses, this happens entirely through nature.

It is the overseeding comment which I find particularly laughable, coming from people who spend around five days of the year in the UK and clearly have no clue. I appreciate what Geoff says about tv announcers being briefed and doing their homework, however I refuse to believe that any tournament official or any member of the Turnberry greenstaff ever uttered the word "overseeding". Since the controversy of Carnoustie in 1999 and allegations of fertilisation the Open organisers have been very sensitive towards any accusations of rough enhancements by artificial means.
07.21.2009 | Unregistered Commentertitleist38

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