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Monday
Jul272009

"In what has to be one of the craziest rulings I’ve ever witnessed on the PGA Tour..."

Bob Weeks says the latest bizarre rules incident involving grounded clubs and intent was driven by viewer phone calls, despite the claims of tournament officials otherwise. That it happened to Mike Weir at the Canadian Open only adds to the intrigue.

Yesterday, Weir was in a strange situation on the 18th hole. After placing his ball on a good lie on the edge of a divot (lift, clean and cheat, don’t ya know) in the fairway and getting ready to hit his shot, the ball toppled over into the hole. Initially Weir was assessed a one-shot penalty. Then later, after reviewing the tape of the situation, he was cleared and his par was turned into a birdie.

Then today, after he was called off the course by the rain delay, officials told him they wanted to review it again. Remarkably, the four was turned back into a five because Weir may have cause the ball to move.

So what would cause the Tour to suddenly re-visit the situation after it had been finalized the night before? Television viewers, that’s who. According to two different sources, the Tour received a flurry of phone calls form arm-chair rules officials who lambasted the decision that was made after seeing the situation on television. They referred to Rule 18-2A which says something about the player being guilty until proven innocent in such a situation. Now the only reason these folks with too much time on their hands called in was because Weir was being given wall-to-wall coverage by CBS. If he’d been some lower-profile golfer, the situation would never have been on tv and he might have been cleared. Of course, it also works the other way -- if he wasn't on tv, he might not have had the initial help which gave him the birdie.

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So, he gets a ruling, he signs the card and they change the ruling? How is he not DQ'd for signing an incorrect card? (Other than the fact that the tour officials would be in grave danger of not getting out of Canada before the RCMP got them...)
07.27.2009 | Unregistered CommenterThe O
the RCGA is running this event. That is all you need to know.
07.27.2009 | Unregistered CommenterM
@ The O.......... from espn.com

"The ruling involved Weir's second shot on the 18th hole Saturday.

Weir's ball moved before he played the shot, but he was unsure whether he had addressed the ball or caused it to move. After calling for a ruling, he replaced the ball in its original location and took a one-stroke penalty.

Before Weir signed his scorecard, the penalty stroke was rescinded after he and the rules committee reviewed video and determined it was inconclusive whether he caused the ball to move. On Sunday, additional video was reviewed, and Weir again assessed himself a one-stroke penalty for causing the ball to move, even though it was still inconclusive whether he addressed the ball.

"Even though I don't think I did, I guess there's that gray-area possibility I could have," Weir said. "So with that, I didn't feel comfortable myself not taking it."

Weir wasn't disqualified for signing an incorrect scorecard because it was right when he signed it. "If a committee makes a decision or an error we can certainly correct it," said Dean Ryan, a Royal Canadian Golf Association rules official."

http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/news/story?id=4357432
07.27.2009 | Unregistered CommenterOWGR Fan
I thought a major difference between the procedure when you caused it to mave and didn't is that when you didn't cause it to move you just played it from where it ends up? Maybe this gets lost when they play ball in hand...do I have this correct?
07.27.2009 | Unregistered CommenterJS
I saw the video. I think he took his address, he grounded his club, and the penalty stroke was appropriate. Kinda wish they hadn't "reversed" the decision to begin with.
07.27.2009 | Unregistered CommenterErik J. Barzeski
Mike Weir does not ground his club when addressing the ball, just as Jack Nicklaus never grounded his for this exact reason. It is hard to imagine that the golfer caused the ball to move if he has not placed or grounded the club behind the ball.

It is easy to imagine a ball rolling off the lip of a divot as the weight of the ball presses the grass down, or a slight breeze blows it away.

Rule 18-2A needs to be visited for fairness because it says in effect that the player has to show that HE or SHE did not cause it to move, and will otherwise be penalized. I could state cases of balls moving on putting greens after being cleaned and marked by the player, where if the ball moves after the marker is lifted, there is no penalty and the player plays the shot from where the ball came to rest.
If the lift, clean and cheat rule was not in place, the ball would not have moved.
When this rule is being used, it is no different than marking your ball on the putting surface.

BTW, if he had played the ball from where it rolled to (into the divot) he would have made the score he ended up with (par 5) so I guess all is well.
07.27.2009 | Unregistered Commentergrumpy
So they have lift clean and cheat rule in effect and then they are worried whether Wier's ball moved a fraction of an inch, because maybe he addressed it or not, then some morons who are watching at home eating Doritoes calls in and they change their minds. Golf has some stupid ass rules. if you lift clean and place who the hell cares if your ball moves a fraction of a inch. ANd the stupids who call in need to get a life. And blog on the internet!!!
07.27.2009 | Unregistered Commentervwgolfer
Phones are a nuisance.
07.27.2009 | Unregistered CommenterAunt Blabbie
Why they take these morons' phone calls is beyond me. They need to learn how to hit a golf ball then maybe they will have something else to do besides trying to prove they know something about the rules.
Wished this worked in baseball. Botched call at second; called strike that was off the plate: "Hello, could you change that call please? The ump was wrong." "Yes sir. Thanks for pointing out our error."

But seriously, what does it say when the play is reviewed by officials - this was not a case where it originally went unnoticed - and then their decision is superseded by arm-chair guy at home? Were the officials not familiar with the rule?
07.28.2009 | Unregistered CommenterWayne
Calm down Grumpy, you must be a Canadian...lol. Mike Weir was already playing lift clean and cheat so what's another stroke here or there eh? He must have let his conscience get the better of him over night and decided with all the video evidence he better come clean.
07.28.2009 | Unregistered Commenterpro tour
Mr Pro Tour

Yes, I am Canadian and proud of it.

BTW, Mike did not grow a conscience overnight, if you remember the incident, it was Mike that informed the officials that the ball had moved in the first place and on the day it happened, they applied the one stroke penalty, and then in the review trailer removed the penalty before Mike signed his card.

The cell phone caller got the rules committee to change their minds which is shameful.

As far as saying he was already cheating with the lift clean and place in effect, it was in effect for the entire field, not just Canadians eh
07.28.2009 | Unregistered Commentergrumpy
I still say it was a penalty, and I don't care how we arrived at the correct ruling (phone call or not) so long as we got there. Weir addressed the ball - grounding your club doesn't mean you have to rest the whole weight of the club on the ground, and in my book, Weir grounded his club, and thus addressed the ball, after which it moved.

Unfortunately the USGA site doesn't provide a definition for "grounded the club," but the definition of addressing the ball is "A player has "addressed the ball" when he has taken his stance and has also grounded his club (except in a hazard...)."

If he's gonna play lift, clean, and cheat maybe next time he won't give himself such a peachy lie on the edge of a divot his ball can roll into at the slightest whim.
07.30.2009 | Unregistered CommenterErik J. Barzeski

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