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Thursday
Aug202009

"I have to throw the whole set out for one club and I wouldn't mind if I thought it was going to make a difference."

Professional golfer and architect Mike Clayton emailed on the eve of the Scottish Seniors to share this about R&A iron testing:

There is an R & A equipment guy here this week checking groves on the irons with next year in mind.

We all know our wedges will be out and my sand wedge and lob wedge were not close - but my Hogan wedge that I have been using for 6 years is fine.

What does that tell you?

It tells me that if a wedge I really like and have had zero issue with flyers is going to be legal, this groove thing is not going to make too much difference.

My 7,8,9 were fine as well and the 3,4 and 5 don't matter because they are under 25 degrees (although I find it hard to believe my 5 is not more than 25) but my 6 is going to be no good.

I have to throw the whole set out for one club and I wouldn't mind if I thought it was going to make a difference. He did acknowledge that not all pros get their clubs for free and it was going to cost the majority a thousand bucks or more to buy new sets - and again I don't mind paying if it is going to make a difference.

Given that my set of six years- except for one club plus the sand irons - will be legal what is going to change?

His argument that it will place more emphasis on hitting fairways so players will take more 3 woods and irons.  If they seriously think that is going to happen they are dreaming.

I wrote back to Clayton suggesting that the USGA and R&A feel the groove rule change will make the floggers throttle back to hit more fairways now that their grooves can't save them from the rough. He replies:

It seems the clubs I assumed would be illegal are legal and therefore what difference is the rule going to make? What is going to change aside from the two sand wedges?

The USGA/R&A vision of guys trying harder to hit fairways has always been difficult for me to swallow since so many players were not aware what kind of grooves they had.  In fact, the rule change may encourage even more flogging because guys would rather have a flyer lie with a SW than an 8 iron.

Geoff Ogilvy Tweeted today about toying with the new grooves:

I replied:

And he replied:

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Reader Comments (13)

I hope in two years we won't be relying on players' anecdotal experience with the new grooves. I hope the PGA Tour and USGA will actually be collecting data.
08.20.2009 | Unregistered Commenter86general
The Aussies, what do they know?

I think I will go have a beer.
08.20.2009 | Unregistered CommenterLynn S.
I don't believe the groove changes will be noticeable at all. There are other ways to get the ball to spin, for example, a rough surface on the clubface, or by using more grooves (see for example, Wishon Golf CX Micro and PCF Micro wedges, which are compliant to the 2010 rules and spin as well or better than nearly any wedges out there today). Not to mention using a softer ball.
08.20.2009 | Unregistered CommenterJoey
Are my 4-year old MP-32s legal?
08.20.2009 | Unregistered CommenterBob S
Treating myself to new Mizuno MP-68s. LH available.
08.20.2009 | Unregistered CommenterTighthead
86,
Brilliant point. The problem is, the USGA and R&A should have collected more before moving ahead on this. These anecdotal reports speak to how the governing body hopes of changing the way players approach a course may not be very well informed.
08.20.2009 | Unregistered CommenterOB
Mike has to throw the whole set out?

I don't get it, just go down the shop and get yerself a new 6 iron matey.

Bloody hell, that's what most Aussies would do, well, maybe after they've gone to the pub, had a pint and thought about it in a rational way with their mates.

DM
08.21.2009 | Unregistered CommenterDick Mahoon
Actually you don't need grooves on a wedge to spin the ball. There have been wedges (by component companies) made in the past that don't have any grooves on the face and still spin the ball a great deal.
08.21.2009 | Unregistered CommenterOWGR Fan
This issue is overrated. Instead. ban the big heads and long putters. It's been a clown sport for way too long.
08.21.2009 | Unregistered CommenterZelda
Jim Mahoon.

I wish I could just go and get a new 6 iron - but they don't make the model I use any more.
There is no way you can play with a mutt 6 iron right in the middle of the set.

Mike Clayton
08.21.2009 | Unregistered CommenterJimmy
Dick.

I apologise for getting your name wrong - my lazy mistake.

Mike
08.21.2009 | Unregistered CommenterJimmy
They seem to have got it quite wrong here which is a shame as I had high hopes for this rule.My Ping rep tells me that under the new rule the old eye 2 is now legal!Unbeleivable!
New ball anyone?!
08.21.2009 | Unregistered Commenterchico
The key question, and one that the USGA should be tracking, is not whether the strategies change, but whether they still work as well as they used to.

If this works, the guys who are hitting more fairways will see a little more success. I cannot imagine that it will make enough difference for the bombers to give it up in the first year.
08.21.2009 | Unregistered Commenterkenoneputt

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