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Mar212010

Tiger's 5-minute Interview Clippings Vol. 1

Jay Busbee interviews Kelly Tilghman about her Tiger interview and also shares a transcript of the Golf Channel chat. Tilghman says she learned about the interview Saturday afternoon.

Larry Dorman and Richard Sandomir share this on the timing:

The networks were each contacted last week by representatives of Woods offering the opportunity for the interview. The ground rules were simple, and the two main restrictions concerned time.

“The understanding was no restrictions on the questions,” said Vince Doria, the senior vice president and director of news at ESPN. “We were able to get the person we wanted to do it, Tom Rinaldi, and they wanted to place a five-minute limit on it, and an agreement that we wouldn’t air it until 7:30.”

Doria said that he tried to argue for more time and that there was no negotiating room. “The alternative was not to do the interview, and that wouldn’t serve our viewers,” Doria said. “Obviously, you’d like to have more than five minutes.”

CBS turned down the interview because of the time restriction.

John Paul Newport looks at the timing this way:

The interviews Sunday were clearly part of a broader, planned strategy for easing back into the public eye. They had the feel of being trial balloons, as if Mr. Woods were testing—in a highly controlled circumstance—how he, his interlocutors and the public would respond to public questioning.

John Strege suggests that "the unfortunate timing was the result of weather delaying the end of the Transitions Championship. Furyk won by a stroke over Choi."

Of course no one made Tiger and his people do these interviews on a PGA Tour Sunday.

Steve Elling says of the interviews:

Given the staggering amount of news relating to Woods and his behavior over the past few years, which has all come to light since his solo car crash on Thanksgiving night, this was like giving a crouton to a starving man. If not a village.

As for the police report answer Tiger gave, Elling writes:

“It’s all in the police report,” he said, claiming the rest is between he and his wife, Elin.

Actually, it isn’t all in the report. He never talked to the Florida Highway Patrol about what happened, his blood-test results (if any were taken) were not made available and he wasn’t asked about whether he had taken sleeping pills before the crash, which means he dodged a possible DUI charge.

The SI boys had lots of interesting stuff to say. A few highlights:

Jim Herre, managing editor, SI Golf Group: He stayed on his talking points tonight, but overall he is winning me back. Surprisingly, I thought Golf Channel's Kelly Tilghman did a much better job than ESPN's Tom Rinaldi. Woods seemed much more comfortable with Tilghman and was more expansive with his answers.

Charlie Hanger, executive editor, GOLF.com: I keep thinking of something Mr. Garrity said a few Confidentials ago. Until he really lays out the night of the crash, people will assume that the Chinese computer animation version of events is truth. He avoided the details again tonight.

Farrell Evans, writer-reporter, Sports Illustrated: He gave two five-minute interviews that ran concurrently. He's still not conceding anything to the media.

Reuters' Simon Evans thought Tiger was "looking jaded and despondent."

Lawrence Donegan says no one would have turned down this chance to interview Woods.

After four months of revelations, each more outlandish than the last and all of them met with silence from the man at the centre of the maelstrom, there is not a media outlet on earth that would have turned down an audience with Woods, however truncated.

So it was that Tom Rinaldi of ESPN and Kelly Tilghman of the Golf Channel, both of whom have long had friendly relations with Woods (though, like every other journalist, could in no way be described as a friend), found themselves on a porch in Isleworth, near the scene of the infamous (and still unexplained) car crash of 27 November last year.

Bob Harig notes that little was learned, just as Tiger wanted it.

Woods would probably rather three-putt the 72nd hole to lose a major championship than face an interview room full of inquisitors, but dealing with the uncomfortable questions -- as he should have done much sooner -- is far better than the alternative of being hounded from Augusta to Charlotte to Ponte Vedra to Pebble Beach.

Sunday's interviews -- while admittedly a start -- are but water torture, with information dripping out.

And finally, Jim McCabe at Golfweek.com writes:

First reaction to the dueling one-on-one interviews with Tiger Woods that aired Sunday night on Golf Channel and ESPN:

What a coincidence, he was able to find a spare TW hat and Nike swoosh sweater. Surprised he wasn’t holding an EA game, too, just to pay complete homage to those are still sticking by him.

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We need a Final Report-style documentary on this whole saga like they did for the first Iraq war and also Watergate. The best way to learn history is with a bowl of cheetos and a beer next to you. Eg

Q. Where had Tiger been earlier on Thanksgiving night?

A. Tiger was playing cards in the clubhouse at Isleworth and drinking with his buddies. Guys like Jordan and Barkley and golfers like the guy who lost the 92 Open to Faldo at Muirfield.

Just take it from there and move on to Vicodin, Ambien haze sex, Rachel Uchitel, 9-irons, fire hydrants, oak trees, grille work, voice recordings, youtube remixes, Vegas cocktail waitresses, mother-in-laws being taken to hospital, people tampering with gatorade packaging and going to prison, sex-addiction clinics in Mississippi, paparazzi, stunt doubles, Fox News anchors shilling for religions, crazy Canadian doctors, rehab, choking, Accenture (maybe tell us what they actually do), biting, phony press conferences, slapping, golf writers pissed off, golden showers, enablers, ass-owning, rehab, mistress beauty pageants, Eric Cartman, Buddhist bracelets, rehab and Augusta.
03.21.2010 | Unregistered CommenterBiarritz
I would like the scumbag to tell the world how he was able to "rationalize" feeling "entitled" to risking the health and lives of three other people.

The local police action stinks as well. Had he made it out onto a main road, who knows what might have happened. Given the paramedics found him asleep (snoring!) and not unconscious, this ought to have provided a fairly 'major' clue that he was under the influence of something.
If Tilghman got an interview, I wonder if Tiger will set up a meditation session with Dave Seanor soon?
03.22.2010 | Unregistered Commentertlavin
A typically worthless interview by Tilghman. No attempt to press Tiger on any real answers to things he was avoiding giving the truth on. The "no one else knew" claim is total B.S....it is common knowledge rooms and airline tickets were reserved or purchased by his handlers for some of the tramps. This guy is about as jaded and pathetic as it gets. Anyone still hanging on the lame "it's his personal business" excuse to support him basically condones lying and cheating. I'm losing respect for Elin by the second. To stand by this fraud, even for the children...as he continues to fabricate nonsense that anyone with a brain can see through is sad.
The game will be far better off when this chump retires....I could care less how many Majors he wins!
03.22.2010 | Unregistered Commentersir real
kudos to CBS for not taking the interview do to the 5 minute time limit

i know there are people out there who dont care at all about this, and actually wantto see him win more majors....i honestly wish one of them could explain that to mean..why anyone would root for this guy any more i truly dont understand...this is a sincere question, i really hope someone answers it
03.22.2010 | Unregistered CommenterPT
Bravo CBS. At last they showed some backbone in reporting anything. More of Eldrick in control. Letting Tilghman do the interview shows how he has forgiven her for her "lynch" comment. No way to prove it but would bet that feelers are out to Fuzzy to play a practice round at Augusta with Eldrick. More of the sos from the Eldrick camp. Wonder how many times they had to stop the five minute interview to wide the drool off Kelly.
03.22.2010 | Unregistered Commenterron
if CBS takes it maybe Mike Wallace can do the interview
03.22.2010 | Unregistered CommenterPT
Yes, CBS's decision to pass on the a Tiger-defined interview will look better and better with time. I do hope it was based on principle, and not on the fact that the basketball tournament was running into the dinner hour. (Was Peter Kostis in the van with the film crew and the audio guys and the engine idling at the Orlando airport?)

And I continue to ask -- What do we make of Golf Channel's decision to assign Kelly Tilghman to the interview since she essentially owes her job to the good graces of Mr. Woods following lynch-gate?
03.22.2010 | Unregistered CommenterChuck
Almost forgot - one more selfish act. Upstaging any reporting about Jim Furyk winning for first time in a couple of years. Could not have done the interview on Travistock Monday! Eldrick just can not stand any one getting attention but him. SOS.
03.22.2010 | Unregistered Commenterron
Kelly said she was given "journalistic freedom". Hardly! What does it matter if Tiger allows you to ask any question at all when he was only going to answer the ones he wanted the way he wanted. Hardly worth making a big deal about him being so gracious that no topic was off limits. There is not one question that could have been asked that has not be covered "hypothetically" over and over by the tabloids and what the public haven't wondered about and wanted to ask.

You could have had 5 minutes of "That's between Elin and me" and "No Comment" if the real questions everyone wants to know the answers to were asked.
03.22.2010 | Unregistered CommenterJT
Am I the only person who wishes that Tiger would just go away? Just retire and go live his life and let golf and the world in general get back to some semblance of normal? I'm not criticising Geoff whose coverage of the whole saga I have already complimented. I AM criticisng the Golf Channel whose fawning adoration has become unbearable. There is something wrong when the GOLF CHANNEL doesn't cover the golf tournament but cuts away to an interview that tells us nothing we didn't already know and just reinforces the idea that Tiger is the centre of the universe.
03.22.2010 | Unregistered Commentermel
Did Kelly T get the assignment because she's a woman, the noose comment or both?
03.22.2010 | Unregistered CommenterGolfFan
PT: Why all the rage about a person you don't even know? I think Tiger is a lot more like the common man than the common man cares to admit but as I wrote before, there seems to be a great number of holier-than-thou types on here. I like watching the guy play golf. That's it. He's quite good you know.
03.22.2010 | Unregistered CommenterRupert
GolfFan:

They've always been friendly, before and after the "lynch him in a dark alley" comment, which shows that Tiger never felt any racist basis for her stupid comment. Her interview, however, was another in a long series of doing absolutely nothing as an announcer. An empty suit, or skirt, so to speak.
03.22.2010 | Unregistered Commentertlavin
I agree; Kelly Tilghman certainly intended no harm and no epithet in the "lynching" comment. The hysteria was quite over-the-top. I would not suggest that she deserved to be fired.

All I suggest is that, the episode demonstrated how circumstances had inextricably linked Tiger and Tilghman personally, and I do say she likely owes her current job to a forgiving Tiger.

Fuzzy Zoeller didn't do as well as Kelly Tilghman...
03.22.2010 | Unregistered CommenterChuck
Rupet, how can you say Tiger is more like a coomon guy than most think? do common folk like me have unlimited money, private jets, anything thing they want?

yea i am mad at him and i hope lots of others are too...he has dragged the game of golf to a depth it has never been to, he's a liar, a hypocrite,s poor role model......

i dont understand how anyone cant be disgusted with him..

isnt there anyone elses golf game you can admire?

someone posted that they wish he would just go away, I agree..quit and go do whatver the hell you want in privacy for the rest of your life
03.22.2010 | Unregistered CommenterPT
Get a life folks!!!
Kelly did a great job under the circumstances.....better than the ESPN guy.
Also it was scheduled to be aired AFTER the golf tournament. Even Tiger could not control the weather delay and it was the networks which aired it. It was on tape from the afternoon.

He is trying and is working with Elin to save the marriage.

Oops, I forgot...........Elin is white and Tiger is black. Could that have something to do with all the hate mail?
03.22.2010 | Unregistered CommenterConfucius
Wow. You guys certainly have every right to any opinion, but I find it hard to believe that there is no one here that has ever seriously f-ed up in his or her own life (or loved someone who has) and had to pick up the pieces of something very ugly while at the same time trying to turn toward something better.

Tiger brought incredible humiliation on himself, his family and his business partners - and, to a certain extent his fans and the game of golf. The blame lies with no one but him, and there is no excuse for the way he was living his life.

That said, I know I chased some rabbits down some holes that I should have walked past. I made mistakes that hurt people. I experienced crushing humiliation and rained pain and chaos on people close to me. And I am NOT that person anymore. Am I still a selfish ass at times? You bet. Has my personal process made me better able to arrest that thinking before it creates harm for those I love? I think so.

Seems to me that there is an incredibly stringent view of the human condition in play here. Whatever. Enjoy the pounds of flesh. If Tiger Woods can place himself on a true path of recovery (and I do not believe he owes the public any further account of what happened "that night," by the way, in order to do that), then he will have accomplished something much more real than all the trophies. Remember, the suffering person such recovery inspires (be it that of TW or any other flawed person trying to do better) could be someone close to you.

I'm happy to be the first to post here that I hope Tiger does in fact recover - himself spiritually first and foremost, but as a champion as well. And yes, I remain a fan of Tiger Woods.
03.22.2010 | Unregistered CommenterTombo
I think all this maudlin piousness is beyond silly. On both his and the media's part. He should just put out a statement that he won't give any real answers and be done with it. As if we haven't figured that out yet.

I would rather see him interviewed by a comedian, like Seinfeld, someone who would nudge him in the ribs and say "Tell us about the babes" or "Tell us about the accident". There would be some real perspective to that instead of acting like these incidents are of serious world significance.

John
03.22.2010 | Unregistered CommenterJohnR
Tombo:

Well said.
03.22.2010 | Unregistered Commentertlavin
and i realized i have probably said too much about this already, so no more rants from me
03.22.2010 | Unregistered CommenterPT
@ PT....

you mention "he has dragged the game of golf to a depth it has never been to"

Really? Have you ever heard of the PGA caucasian only clause? You may want to read up on it.
03.22.2010 | Unregistered CommenterOWGR Fan
OWGR fan - you have a very good point
03.22.2010 | Unregistered CommenterPT
Can a narcissist be cured?

Seems to me Tombo that you need to revisit 'some stuff' and then perhaps you'll see why some of us remain sceptical.
The suggestion by reader "Confucius" that this message thread is filled with "hate-mail" that is motivated by race is beneath contempt.

Let us review:

Tiger and his handlers hastily called a press conference for Sunday. Why? What was critical on Sunday? There are several plausible explanations; the overwhleming news of the NCAA Tournament and the Health Care debate were likely to provide news-dump cover. Or, it was to fend off the revelations of the Victoria Siwik-Daniels text messages. Or, it was to grab interviews when ESPN, Golf Channel, CBS and NBC were all spread thin and Tiger could more easily choose his interview opposition.

Tiger then does the interviews -- he gets questions that anyone could have and should have expected, and yet he doesn't answer. Why do the interviews? Why on Sunday? If, Tiger, you had intended only on repeating talking points from your dumb and maudlin Sawgrass event, why do more intterviews? So Kelly Tilghman could ask you how you are feeling? What new wristband you are wearing? The meaning of Buddhism? Whether your swing plane is too flat these days?

Finally, in giving the precious few bits of real information in response to striaght questions, Mr. Woods lies: He claims that "no one knew at the time." Which is clearly a lie. Everybody connected to the Men's Fitness thing knew. Byron Bell knew. There's at least some evidence that Steve Williams knew. It's not tricky; Tiger is lying about some or all of this.

So, Confucius; where is the racism in any of this? I want to know. If you wish to accuse me of racism, then I think that you and I have an issue.
03.22.2010 | Unregistered CommenterChuck
Carnaptious:

Skeptical? I would think everybody is skeptical of Tiger, even those, like me, who are vocally supportive of him. He has screwed up and says he's repenting and claims that he'll hew to the straight and narrow. Hell, I'm skeptical of his abilities in this regard, but I wish him well in trying. More to the point, however, I wish him well in his return to the game. The game needs him back.
03.22.2010 | Unregistered Commentertlavin
Well said, Chuck. You spoke for me too.

The racism charge is always fired by those who are out of bullets.

Now, for the record...

"Later, he explains that he wants to "hold you down while I choke you." He says he will "slap your face and pull your hair for making noise." He also informs James that "you are my f--king wh--e." - Huffington Post 3/22/10

Hold you down while I choke you? Slap your face? Pull your hair? You are my f--king whore? And those are the tamer texts from Woods to Joslyn James, all of which caused his wife to leave him...again.

Confucius, defend THAT, you sanctimonious SOB.
03.22.2010 | Unregistered CommenterBigSky
tlavin ... but that's just it, is he trying or is he just going through the motions hence my narcissist query which, incidentally, you tiptoed past?

Perhaps you would also care to tell me why the game needs him back?
WHY is The Quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers getting a pass on what seems like a pattern of sexual assaults? White star quarterback. Black golfer married to white woman. We still are not over the racial thing. Sad.
03.22.2010 | Unregistered Commentervwgolfer
vwgolfer, the answer would be: 'evidence".

The "black golfer" (your reference, not mine) left a tral of evidence and even confessed. The "white star quarterback" will be finished if and when evidence is uncovered.

Stop with the racism charges. They are wishful thinking on your part. Prior to the scandal, Tiger Woods transcended race to such an extent that most saw him only as a great golfer.
03.22.2010 | Unregistered CommenterBigSky
It's not about evidence. Charges are pending against which star athlete? Or maybe not, I do not know because the focus on Ben is almost nonexistant, which in itself is kinda my point. Tiger was never charged with anything other than being stupid. Yet which person is treated like a criminal. I don't really like either guy, think Tiger is a pompous ass, which again is evident is his granting only 5 minute interviews(SOME THINGS NEVER CHANGE). ANd I am certainly not charging out and out racism to anyone(who would I accuse?), all I am saying is our attitudes are different in each case, and it can be attributed to race, and of course other factors like stupid stuff that Tiger did(sleeping with porn stars). FUNNY Stuff to most people and shocking to some, where Ben is just a sexual assault(boring to most I guess), And TIGER transcending race is some storybook line the media used for years, WHY? Cause the crusty white guys at Augusta embraced him? I don't get it. He is half black/half Asian. He is multiracial, that seems to be where he transcend race. No one transcends their ethnicity, good lord he aint the Second Coming.
03.22.2010 | Unregistered Commentervwgolfer
@BigSky - you seem so wounded by the texts sent by Woods. (which are not verified as true, BTW) If they are true - he was sending texts to his porn-star mistress...what do you expect him to talk about? Much more likely he's gonna be talking about the "stumpin'" and not the Stimp at Augusta, no?


-LK
03.22.2010 | Unregistered CommenterLiquidKaos
Chuck,
I did not accuse you of racism but you doth protest a bit much.
03.22.2010 | Unregistered CommenterConfucius
Liquid, I'm not wounded. How liberating to learn, however, that I can talk to and treat SOME women this way, just not ALLwomen. How cool! I'm sure Elin is looking forward to her turn in the barrel. It might explain her latest exit.

You and I have the luxury of choosing with whom we associate. I don't associate with people who would talk to, or treat, ANY woman in that manner. Is that okay with you? Please advise.

While I'm at it, let me give you a few more thoughts about Tiger's behavior. It was disgusting, horrific, ugly, and it hurt a lot of people. I suppose you'll take issue with those thoughts too. Before you do, you might want to know that they're Tiger Woods' own words, spoken yesterday.

You keep defending "no standards of decency", I'll keep defending human decency.

I'm comfortable in my defense, are you?
03.22.2010 | Unregistered CommenterBigSky
A bit of a thread-jack here:

Perhaps the highlight for me of yesterday's Tiger/media circus came after the interviews while I was watching the Golf Channel post-mortem. In introducing Jim Gray, Rich Lerner compared the Tiger comeback to that of Muhammad Ali after his 1967 arrest for draft evasion. Gray looked incredulous for a moment, then began a lovely counterpoint of why the Tiger comeback is exactly NOT like Ali's. He ended by saying something like Ali will long be remembered for his social activism, whereas Tiger hasn't stood up for any social issue in his life. Nice work by Gray, I thought.

I know: Tiger's a golfer, not a politician. But he said again yesterday that he wants to be remembered for more than his golf. Now's certainly a good time to start down that road. We'll see.
03.22.2010 | Unregistered CommenterCK
Oh CK...

I think El Tigre has succeeded magnificiently in being remembered for something other than golf....
03.22.2010 | Unregistered CommenterJC
CK, Followers of ESPN Page 2 will recall that "The Sports Guy" Bill Simmons first brought up the Woods/Ali comparison -- saying that Woods will have an easier time than Ali. Simmons then did a long essay explaining why he was right. His statements drew a lot of flack from the Deadspin crowd and Keith Olbermann. I'm surprised that anyone who reads the Internet would want to open that can of worms again.
03.22.2010 | Unregistered CommenterMitch Martin
MM: My life consists of reading this site and watching reruns of The Big Break, so I missed that completely. Thanks for the education.
03.22.2010 | Unregistered CommenterCK
One clarification. Simmons said Woods will have it tougher than Ali. Something about everyone who was under 35 was behind Ali, so his comeback was easier. Got that beackwards. It's not a great piece of literature either way.
03.22.2010 | Unregistered CommenterMitch Martin
@BigSky -

I appreciate your candor on this matter, however - I disagree on a few points, I guess.

While I feel that what Tiger did to his wife is horrible, it in no way affects my view of his skill as a golfer. He has never truly managed "sportsmanship"(in the Nicklaus/Watson vein), and that is truly disappointing(and something that I am struggling to learn myself)...but he can only come into that on his own, through his own discoveries...so, I still think it could occur.

I have done things in my own life that I am ashamed of: lied, occasionally stolen, made fun of people undeserving...but, as was said in a post by a previous author...I am NOT that person anymore, and I take pride(the only real pride I have known in my life) in that fact everyday. I am continuing to learn and be present to what is possible, and now consider myself a decent(not "good") person. Are we unable to be friends, or play a few rounds together because of actions in my past, even when these actions did not affect you?

His behavior, in my opinion, in regards to his wife and family, WAS horrifically grotesque and downright filthy. I agree with you and Tiger on that.

I guess my question is whether or not these texts make anything worse...I don't believe they do.

So he likes to get a little raunchy in the sack with his porn-star mistress? She's probably heard and done those types of things before...you'd think.

People in glass bunkers should not...well, I can't figure the rest out - but you get my point.


Cheers,


LK
03.22.2010 | Unregistered CommenterLiquidKaos

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