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Tuesday
Sep072010

"Tiger Woods is going to the Ryder Cup as a captain's pick with his 71 victories and 14 majors. So is 21-year-old Rickie Fowler, who has never won anything at all."

Doug Ferguson's lede sums up the state of American Ryder Cup picks of Tiger Woods, Stewart Cink, Zach Johnson and Rickie Fowler.

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Maybe Pavin wanted Fowler around for sartorial consultations? Actually, Cink is the one I would not have picked. His Ryder Cup record is not good and he hasn't been playing well. He and his lime green hat did endear themselves greatly to the Euros in 2009...so he's got that going for him.
Fowler may surprise people. Maybe not. He is not grizzled yet. Pavin probably wanted a bit of fiery youth around to liven up the troops.
09.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterGeorge
Woods is an appropriate pick, given his track record and the uptick in his recent play. Fowler seems like an inspired choice, because he tends to play some inspirational golf, well, for the first three days of tournaments, anyway. Cink? I can't agree with that pick, but he'll probably prove all the naysayers wrong. Not that I think many people will be watching...
09.7.2010 | Unregistered Commentertlavin
fowler is a good pick. he may not have won anything (yet), but he has managed to play his way into a tour card, something that only tiger and ryan moore have managed to do, iirc.
09.7.2010 | Unregistered Commenterthusgone
Zach is the only solid pick, IMO.

As I have stated b4 , he had to pick TW, as his butt is covered if Woods does good or bad,

Cink will be followed by a Euro cheat watch squad, and I don't blame them. See if he can hide in the bathroom trying to ice a Euro, like he did Watson.

Maybe Fowler was picked to help design the uniforms...... I like RF but he's to hot.cold...... which may be ok since it;s not 4 days of one score, but individual comptitions.

I predict a lot of close competition , with great scoring, and really bad scoring
09.7.2010 | Unregistered Commenterdigsouth
Rickie was picked because of his Walker Cup record...oy vey.
Fowler/Hoffman--could have been the Marty Hackel dream team...
09.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterSmails
@thusgone... Justin Leonard did as well.
09.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterOWGR Fan
Will be interesting to see what happens when Ryder cup pressure introduces itself to Fowlers swing
09.7.2010 | Unregistered Commentermrobert
Fowler is young, raw, and with a swing that won't exactly make Ledbetter drool, but the kid does have some game, and this will be a very good experience for him for the future.
09.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterCharles Boyer
@thusgone Fowler was a Q school card winner .

http://www.pgatour.com/qschool/leaderboard/
09.7.2010 | Unregistered Commenterjmcd
Ryder Cup pressure...LOL...if any competition can make stars out of the likes of Peter Baker and Philip Price, then the pressure can't be very great. And then there's Monty, a stud in the Ryder Cup who suddenly choked like a dog come major time.
09.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterScott
Pavin should have said Fowler was picked because he doesn't have a losing Ryder Cup record! The other three are combined 15-22-4 in Ryder Cups! Why does Cink keep getting Captain's picks year after year when he has a losing record?
09.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterJT
my bad. thanks guys. i still think fowler will do well. and for the record, i think his get-up is ridiculous.

what's the cink-cheating thing?
09.7.2010 | Unregistered Commenterthusgone
@thusgone

from fellow shackup Steve Elling:

http://www.cbssports.com/golf/story/12047085

Who knew, Stu?
One of the nicest guys on the planet, it appears that Stewart Cink has a diabolical, wily streak we never knew existed. Last week, Cink finally came clean as to why it took him several extra minutes to reach the first tee for his playoff with Tom Watson at the British Open last month. He was freezing the 59-year-old, to use the NFL term. "I knew what I was up against with Tom Watson, because with the crowd pulling for him so much that I didn't want to be on the tee standing there when he walked up," Cink volunteered. "I wanted to be the last on the tee, because if anything, I wanted him to hear some applause for me walking up there instead of the other way around. So I didn't really have to go to the restroom, but I decided to go anyway, just take a few extra seconds to go down there and then walk on the tee." For those who believe there isn't much room for gamesmanship on the PGA Tour, consider yourself corrected.

(fair use.)

Come on. Gamesmanship? He hides in the pisser. Furyk is dqed for missing five minutes of a pro am?

Cink is a weasel. I hope he goes 0-5. And I'm not a Watson fan.

Any further reflections, upon further review, Steve?



play well.


digsouth
09.7.2010 | Unregistered Commenterdigsouth
The correct picks were...

Woods - Got to have the Devil on your side.
Johnson - Got to have God on your side.
Holmes - A bomber who can putt.
Hoffman - A bomber who can putt.
09.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterFrank
Fowler will be a tremendous asset to the team. Apart from his obvious talent, he is one of only two or three golfers who have charisma. As for the comments on his clothes, he is a breath of fresh air which golf sorely needs .Should he dress in the predictably boring and nondescript manner of most other players?
09.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterBuffett
Scott, by now I know what to expect from you, but... unless your comments are part of some childish experiment, you must be the most ignorant person I've ever come across. You might be an Englishman trying to make a point about stupid Americans who don't understand anything, but then again...whatever. Say something about lukewarm beer and government-financed health care while you're at it.

OK picks, by the way. Glover likely shot himself out of it with that churlish back nine at Greensboro, and Fowler could be dynamite in the fourballs.
09.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterHawkeye
The So Cal golf mafia strikes again...
09.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterAmen Coroner
Granted it was in 2007, but didn't Fowler beat McIlroy a couple of times over at County Down?
09.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterKevin C.
Radar, do tell. What was factually incorrect about my post? Baker and Price are nobodies who became stars for three days in September. (That could be a book title. "Three Days In September," the heartwarming story of how Britain suddenly appeared on the world sporting map, thanks to the presence of various other Europeans who held their hands. Available in paperback this November.)

Oh, and Monty choked in majors. Fact.
09.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterScott
I like Fowler as a pick, especially, as Hawkeye says, in fourballs (singles too).
I have trouble picturing him in alternate shot format...maybe with Bubba Watson as a reckless, go for broke pairing.
09.7.2010 | Unregistered Commenterdbh
Digsouth, About Cink, that's not gamesmanship, that's strategy, and brilliant I might add. Pulling stunts during a match (or playoff in this example) would be akin to gamesmanship. Pre-game maneuvers are just a part of the strategy in match play (or again, playoff in this example) and I imagine you would have found the likes of Bobby Jones and Walter Hagen using the same tactics. I'm with Elling...thumbs up Cink, and I bet Tom Watson would say the same thing.
09.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterRM
Well, for one thing, when multiple major winners witness about being virtually unable to put a tee in the ground on the first tee, then the pressure isn't "not too great".
09.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterHawkeye
What a chickens*** move by Cink.
Enjoy your 1 major you clown
09.7.2010 | Unregistered Commenterjjshaka
@RM

I will defer from much comment at this time.

In light of all the bizarre penalties, and non score affecting penalties we have witnessed in the last few weeks, to blatantly lie and stall a match for the purposes of, well, putting pressure on your competition, in a game of honor, is well, just not what I would consider honorable.

But what can you expect from the guy who teed it up in a waste bunker at HH. I wouldn't want Cink on my island.


take care.

digsouth
09.7.2010 | Unregistered Commenterdigsouth
Cink is one of the all-time standup guys and as nice as they come. And his RC record is as proportionately dreary as other Americans. Pretty sure his Prez Cup recOrd stacks up well to peers, and he does quite well in the WGC match play event.
09.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterFWIW
What about Trevino pulling the rubber snake out on the 1st tee of a US Open playoff against Jack? An advantage gained is not always an unfair one.
09.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterRM
I see too many unsound swings and minds on the American side to retain the Cup. Fowler's fast flippy action could be the worst swing offender, but the young man has a good head, even with a Puma hat.

Monty and his charges shall prevail.
09.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterLord Leamington
Digsouth, The rules are there to help as much as hurt, and I'm pretty sure that Cink was consulting a rules official as he did that.
09.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterRM
What rule is there for an extra minute or two in the WC?
09.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterChadwick
@RM

The snake was bound to be mntioned.
Seve rattling change, many moving on the green while one is putting. etc.

Gamesmanship is always present, as muc by comment, as by action.

but come on. Hiding in the pisser?

IMO.

digsouth
09.7.2010 | Unregistered Commenterdigsouth
I thought the big complaint about Stewart Cink was when he dug a trench behind his ball at Harbour Town. We haven't forgotten that have we?
09.7.2010 | Unregistered Commentermel
Rules are made to be broken, just make sure you pair the cheaters together.
09.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterZinger
Why did Cink even admit he iced Watson?
09.7.2010 | Unregistered Commenterd.b.cooper
Buffet,

Ricky is not a breath of anything except marketing hot air. There have been guys dressing better than Fowler for a number of years now, OK perhaps they have mostly been Euro Players, but he's late to the game for changing the look on the golf course. I'll give him this tho, he's the first to totally whore himself out head to toe and become a walking advert for a dying sports company company trying to break into golf. The only one worse is Daly.

Pavin's never been cool and his picks are stupid to say the least.
09.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterPress Agent
I have to admit, I'm laughing at the guys to think Hoffman should have been picked. He's done nothing except win last week and I don't think you can take him, just because of how stupid he looks. What's the name of that dog with the floppy ears that tilts it's head to the side all the time? That's Hoffman. He would be good for the jokes the Euros could make tho.
09.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterPress Agent
When do we hear from Jim Gray saying, "I told you so!" I hope the answer is, never.
09.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterMedia driven
DISCLOSURE: I am a huge Watson fan, and used to think Cink was nice/kind of cool.

My only problem with Cink's icing move was talking about it. Why in the world would you talk about something that could only be perceived as a negative? Cink- good on ya for the move, bad on ya for failing to keep your trap shut.

A related thought. I love all of my fellow Shack posters for their sense of righteous indignation over Cink and all other perceived slights to the "holiness" of the rules of golf. It's nice to know that St. Peter will always be able to fill his foursome. :)

I wonder how many of the Righteous Rules Police (RRP) here have ever done anything strategic in match play or tournament play to gain a mental edge on their opponent.

Anyway, I think that the Ryder Cup will be on the Brits' side of The Pond when done, but I'll still probably watch some of it.
09.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterPete the Luddite
I hope they put Jim G in one of those faux living rooms with the wing back chairs and have him interview people at the RC---so Pavin can leave him there to mumble "moon river".....
09.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterSmails
Cink mentioned last year right after the Open Championship that he stepping into the bathroom for a moment and now a few here are up in arms over it NOW? Yeah this really sounds like he was icied Watson.... I'm a Watson guy and have zero issue with what cink did. Wow a few seconds in a portable stall. Yep thats the reason Tom lost......

"In the hectic moments between the conclusion of the British Open and the start of the four-hole playoff between Stewart Cink and Tom Watson, Cink had the presence of mind to use a portable restroom. Well, sort of.

After birdieing the 18th hole -- and then having to clear up a rules issue that had occurred at the 17th green when Cink had to replace his ball that had moved before he marked it -- Cink made his way to the fifth hole and then ducked into a bathroom as Watson walked up to the tee. And it had nothing to do with nerves.

"I was late going to the tee because I knew what I was up against with Tom Watson with the crowd pulling for him so much that I didn't want to be on the tee standing there when he walked up,'' Cink said. "I wanted to be the last on the tee, because if anything, I wanted him to hear some applause for me walking up there instead of the other way around.

"So I really didn't have to go to the restroom, but I decided to go anyway, just take a few extra seconds to go down there and then walk on the tee.'' And then. "I'm getting old, so sometimes I don't know if I have to go to the bathroom or not,'' Cink, 36, said. Cink made two birdies in the four-hole playoff to easily win the playoff and capture his first major championship.

http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/notebook?page=notebook/bb-090805
09.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterOWGR Fan

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