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Wednesday
Sep082010

TIGER WOODS: "He's coaching me (smiling)." 

Tiger sounded a little touchy about the Sean Foley relationship status. As if the writers didn't see their Facebook status shifting from "It's complicated" to, "In a teaching relationship."

Q. How long do you think the process of modification will take?

TIGER WOODS: Well, we'll see. It's progress. I'm making progress, I'm making steps, and just got to keep heading in the right direction.

Q. Just a quick follow-up, how different is the concept versus what Hank teaches and what Butch teaches?

TIGER WOODS: Very different.

Q. Just to clarify, how would you characterize your relationship with Sean, your working relationship?

TIGER WOODS: We're working on it.

Q. Is he your coach?

TIGER WOODS: He's coaching me (smiling).

Q. Are you paying him?

TIGER WOODS: That's none of your business.

Q. How formal, I guess, is the question.

TIGER WOODS: Well, it's none of your business, first of all.

Steve Elling was with Foley when his cell phone exploded on the news and has some new information on how the two met how the two started working together.

He stood on the driving range at Cog Hill, looking down at the screen on the device, quizzically thumbing through the assault of e-mails and text messages that began bouncing off satellites and into the contraption.

"What's this all about?" he said.

As ever, it's all about Eldrick.

Moments earlier, in his own inimitably paranoid fashion, world No. 1 Tiger Woods confirmed he has formally forged a work relationship with Foley, who coaches a half-dozen other PGA Tour players, and the news precipitated the flurry of inquiries that will soon make him the most famous Canuck in the States since Dudley Do-Right.

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Weird stuff...just plain weird.
09.8.2010 | Unregistered CommenterMRP
I would love for someone to break down what Tiger was doing with Haney vs. what he is doing w/ Foley. Pictures would be good. Is it really all that different? Obviously different terminology.

I read Haney's most recent book (Essentials of the Swing) and find that a lot of what he writes is similar to what they said Tiger needed to fix in his golf swing, i.e. turn his shoulders on perpendicular plane to his spine "inclination" at address, don't move "off the ball" or sway. The biggest difference is Haney's theory of maintaining the shaft plane angle at address throughout the swing and the rotation of the forearms to help allow that to happen.

Personally, I think Tiger lost interest with Haney and wasn't listening anymore. But he is willing to listen to Foley, almost like a new toy or likening it to how the theory of how some sports teams tune out the coach after several years necessitating a change.

I am in no way an expert in swing theory, I would just like to see and understand the differences.
09.8.2010 | Unregistered CommenterSpiegs
No surprise Tiger's feathers got a little ruffled from "are you paying him?" question. Tiger doesn't like paying for ANYthing. Wink. Wink.
09.8.2010 | Unregistered CommenterJoslyn
Spiegs-
The difference is now, Tiger is stacked.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2nV4pAJUGI
09.8.2010 | Unregistered CommenterUD
@UD

Thanks. Guess I should have know I could find something like that on YouTube.

I am going to break out that recent Haney book later and compare what he was doing in May 2010 to what Haney says in his book.

Not sure why I care, just curious.
09.8.2010 | Unregistered CommenterSpiegs
Since mistresses rank at least as high as swing coaches, Foley might only be getting a chicken wrap from Subway in return for each session. AND, he will definitely be flying coach if Eldrick is paying his fare.
09.8.2010 | Unregistered CommenterMarky Mark
@spiegs, I don't know that I would call that a stack. Getting off that ridiculously terrible laid off position that Haney had him in is a good start, but I would want to see a front view to see if his movement off the ball has changed.
09.8.2010 | Unregistered CommenterThe O
I have been a PGA Professional for 4 decades. . . While it may be uncomfortable for many golfers to understand . . . Swing technique does make a difference. . . The best and most consistent professionals do NOT just step up and rely on "muscle memory" to hit a nice golf shot. . . They are actually "working on something" during their swing to improve their ball striking . . . If I (along with thousands of other PGA Professionals) have heard it once - we have heard it many multiples of that - "this does not feel comfortable or natural." . . . No kidding - maybe that is why you suck and people who are willing to do something that is different or not natural don't? . . . The reason most guys like me respect Tiger Woods is simply because he has been willing to take a chance - try something uncomfortable or different - trying to become better.
09.8.2010 | Unregistered CommenterWisconsin Reader
Looks good.
Right heel staying down and shaft behind the eyes at the finish.
This guys has some potential.
Who is he ? Can he putt ?
09.8.2010 | Unregistered CommenterLongy
Mr. Reader...

this one was simply classic...

"this does not feel comfortable or natural." . . . No kidding - maybe that is why you suck

Simply classic!!!
09.8.2010 | Unregistered CommenterMRP
Does Tiger win one of the next two?

Whatever happened to Big Sky? That dude owes me money. I suspect one of the Fasbender brothers smashed Big Sky's computer.
09.8.2010 | Unregistered CommenterDr. Phillips
What's the "golf media's" OBSESSION with what the 'relationship' is called Why does it matter whether it's "formal," "casual," "serious," "cordial" or something completely different? Foley is helping Woods --ISN'T THAT ENOUGH? Does the Desperate For A Story "golf media" get paid extra if somebody says this coaching arrangement is Official? Doe anyone in this profession ever come up with an Original Idea?

(And more to the point, exactly what difference does it make to Actual Golf Fans who have to absorb this mindless dreck? Seriously, do you reporters actually think it makes one bit of difference to even a serious golf fan if Woods is "working" with Foley or if he is "officially working" with Foley? Pitiful.)

Another case in point: the exhaustive "analysis" of the Ryder Cup captain's picks and whether these were good decisions or not. Guess what... I can tell you exactly how effective the selections are.... immediately AFTER the conclusion of the event. If the picks play well and that side wins, the choices were good. If they play crappy and that side loses, then the picks were wrong.

These windbags must get paid by the word..............
09.8.2010 | Unregistered CommenterBenSeattle
Welcome back to the world Dr P!
Tiger playing well enough for you to reappear out of the woodwork is he?!
09.9.2010 | Unregistered Commenterchico
"it's all in the police report."
09.9.2010 | Unregistered Commenterthusgone
Geoff,
Tell your crony Steve Elling to get a life and cut out the racist, bigoted hatred that he harbours for Tiger Woods. Elling in his inimitable paranoid fashion sees ugly in himself and transpose it to other people. i have not read or heard a truly objective piece he has ever writtten about Tiger Woods. Who does Elling believes he is? A creature from out of space who answers to no one but himself. Wow!! Wow!! How truly foolish if you all think that such is the case. Ain't it a beach - all of us will die some day and then we will get what is deserved.
Geoff, all these golfers do, is play a sport and get paid a lot of money if they are good at it, but in the large scheme of things, golf or any sport is unimportant. Why the persecution complex for individuals.
09.9.2010 | Unregistered Commenterpeachtree
@peachtree
Pulling out the "Race Card" - nice.
09.9.2010 | Unregistered CommenterMarky Mark
@marky mark
No race card, writing it as it appears by Elling. Take an objcetive look again at the words Elling uses and determine in your heart the motivations. Elling does not know Woods, he has been at golf tournaments and have asked Woods questions.
09.9.2010 | Unregistered Commenterpeachtree
Tiger needs to work on his PR - a simple "I prefer to keep the details confidential" sounds so much better than "It's none of your business."
09.9.2010 | Unregistered CommenterMS
<< Who does Elling believes he is? A creature from out of space who answers to no one but himself. Wow!! Wow!! How truly foolish if you all think that such is the case. >>

Among all the truly inane, uninformed and flat-out ridiculous statements I read from posters via the Internet, this piece of mindless drivel manages to stand out in a screed lacking thought, reason and any sense of perceptivity. For the record, Pal, NOBODY believes Elling to be an alien. However, for you to actually scrounge the depths and somehow attach the words "racist, bigoted hatred" to what is an even, fair and in-depth look not at Eldrick's many issues but of the heightened attention being paid to Sean Foley simply puts your ignorance and desperation out front for all the world to see. Perhaps I shouldn't pay much attention to chuckleheads such as yourself, people who attach waaay too much importance to a simple critique but the notion of a "persecution complex" is, indeed, a notion from Neptune. What I find interesting is how quickly the focus has switched to Woods' swing troubles while he remains an arrogant, paranoid control freak. Steve Elling remains among the few respected golf journalists, one who need not bow down to any "mere individual," no matter how skilled he might be at the the game itself.
09.9.2010 | Unregistered CommenterBenSeattle
"its none of your business:" is Tigerspeak for "Go f%$^ yourself."

BenSeattle, I am a little unclear as to your position vis-a-vis peachtree's comments, can you clarify?
You seem a little noncommittal and vague in your post. lol.
09.9.2010 | Unregistered CommenterThe Q
@BenSeattle,
OH you of little faith. Methinks the person protest too much. Yes you are so right about the "fair-minded and respected" Elling!!!!. The great writer BenSeattle who is so learned cannot recognize "sarcasm" when he sees it. Everyone except you knows that there are no creatures from another planet living on earth. Or am I wrong and you are one of them (lol)
09.9.2010 | Unregistered Commenterpeachtree
@ MS,
You should listen/watch how the sports writer ask questions of Tiger Woods and you will understand why he replies the way he does. When it comes to Woods, it is prying, searching, belittling all the time. Because he has answered "none of your business" that question will never be asked. You never use diplomacy with the Press especially the Press that has completely hated Woods all these years.
Anyway that was a very rude question to ask and the reply was appropriate.
09.9.2010 | Unregistered Commenterpeachtree
I have YET to hear a reporter ask Eldrick even ONE truly "difficult" question. "Are you paying Foley?" is hardly intrusive; a yes or no would be an indication that their relationship has been made formal or not. (The "none of your business" is nothing more than rude. Excuse me.... the subject of your stinkin' swing coach is a matter of what... National Security?)

Instead, the media continue to pose their typically obsequious queries, such as "Are you close?" "Is it difficult making swing changes during a tournament?" and the usual blah, blah golf crap that results in Eldrick's rehearsed, bland responses. (Somebody: give me a memorable Woods quote.)

Here are a few questions that are long overdue:

"Mr. Woods, isn't it true that if you hadn't been texting a New York tramp on Thanksgiving Night that you wouldn't have had a fight with your wife and you wouldn't have hit a fire hydrant and that as a result you would STILL to this very day be crawling around with every stripper, party girl, waitress and porn star from Miami to Mecca?"

"Mr. Woods, you travel the world with an entourage of coaches, trainers, agents, yes-man, leeches and hangers-on, yet would you STILL have us believe that in all the years you spent shacking up in hotels and private homes surrounded by this posse that NOT ONCE did you ever receive help in procuring skank nor did any of these lackeys see you with a woman not your wife EVEN ONCE?"

"Mr. Woods, in February you stated publicly that saving your marriage and family was your foremost priority, yet after just a few weeks of counseling you elected to prepare for the Masters rather than devote ALL your time toward reconciliation. Isn't your selfish and relentless pursuit of Nicklaus' majors record actually your true number one priority and vastly more important than any "family" that you so callously disregarded for most of the years of your marriage?"

Just askin'.
09.9.2010 | Unregistered CommenterBenSeattle
@ BenSeattle,
Truly YOU have a problem!!! YOU have no life. YOU are sincerely interested in Tiger Woods life!!!. YOU are having a lot of problems sleeping at nights for worrying about Woods life. What!! you sound depressed. I suggest you go see a priest, pastor, counsellor, shrink, someone because YOU are really losing it.
YOU truly "LOVE"/"HATE"" Woods
How close am I to the evaluation of your mind?
That's all for this diatribe !!
Sign off
09.9.2010 | Unregistered Commenterpeachtree
about now would be a good time for miss priss! to weigh in, i think.
09.9.2010 | Unregistered Commenterthusgone
Hmmmm.... I suppose that in order to effectively communicate with certain coconut-headed contributors I'll have to make an arguement followed by multiple EXCLAMATION POINTS!!! (There: does that HELP?!!!)

What I'm interested in is seeeing a near-billionaire celebrity/sportsman who appears smiling in ads and commercials, who parades his wife and children in public in order to cultivate his IMG-orchested "image," whose "corporate partnerships" are designed for the SOLE PURPOSE of getting into the pocket of the public, to FINALLY display one ounce of honesty and forthrightness for duping us for these past 14 years. To see his carefully-choreographed "return" managed by agents and P.R. firms with minimal consideration for behavior so despicable that "forgiveness" should yet be years in the future is nothing but a smack to the decency of those who possess a mere iota of self-respect. The guy is a habitual liar (not only to his wife but to the American people via Kelly Tilghman) and remains so steeped in his self-centered little world that I believe the only people who continue to harbor admiration for the scumbag must feel very much at home at the end of the strings of a marionette.

Keep dancing, Peachy.
09.9.2010 | Unregistered CommenterBenSeattle
Wow! BenSeattle needs professional help if he actually thinks some lowly golf reporters have any right to ask such questions.

The media susposedly speaks for the public, right? Well, as a member of the public, I don't give a damn about:

Skanks
Fire Hydrants
IMG
Uchitel
Skanks
Sex Rehab
Skanks
Thanksgiving night.
Strippers
Party Girls

The FANS who continue to cheer and ask Tiger for autographs at tournaments don't give a damn, either. He still commands the biggest galleries, as far as I can tell, and that just eats you up doesn't it?

That people have moved on?

That 40% of the spectators at TPC Boston left after Tiger completed his round on Sunday?

That people can like his golf and can separate it from his personal life?

You know, like most rational people have the ability to do?

He got divorced, genius. Let it go.

"to FINALLY display one ounce of honesty and forthrightness for duping us for these past 14 years"

Did Tiger not admit a few weeks that his messy personal life has affected his golf game? That's honesty, but you're too steeped in your pathetic, obsessive hatred of the guy to see it.

"To see his carefully-choreographed "return" managed by agents and P.R. firms "

Was not wining a damn thing this year part of his carefull-choregraphed return? How about going to Wales as a Captain's Pick? Camp Tiger's PR has actually been pretty terrible and everyone can see this. His results this past year speak for itself as to how he's been affected by all this. Is he a sympathetic figure? No, but he is human, but again, your obsessive, racial hatred of the guy makes you blind to this.

"Just askin'. "

As Tiger would say, it's none of your business. Again, he got divorced and it's over. Get over it, you sanctimonious gasbag.
09.9.2010 | Unregistered CommenterWonk.
Oh, and by the way, if Woods is a lying, self-centered scumbag, then so is:

John F. Kennedy
Martin Luther King Jr.
Bill Clinton
Franklin D. Roosevelt

And every person in the world, past and present who has ever commiited the VIOLENT!CRIME! of infidelity.

CALL THE POLICE! THROW ADULTERER SCUMBAGS IN JAIL!!!

Those scumbags would most likely include everyone's brother, uncles, various cousins, etc.
09.9.2010 | Unregistered CommenterWonk.
Wonk,
You forgot Ike who had a mistress while in England during the war.
09.10.2010 | Unregistered CommenterReporter
I had heard about Ike and some funny business before, but not the exact circumstances. Thanks for the head up. Great President and good golfer to boot.
09.10.2010 | Unregistered CommenterWonk.
<< The FANS who continue to cheer and ask Tiger for autographs at tournaments don't give a damn, either. He still commands the biggest galleries, as far as I can tell >>

Yes, it's quite apparent that the memory-deprived American sports fan cares only about the GAME. As long as an athlete is famous enough and skilled enough, these hro-worshippers will continue to kowtow to the notoriously noteable, character be damned. What does it matter that Woods exposed himself as a talented fraud, a serial manipulator whose "corporate image" was so well-crafted that tens of thousands of the gullible shelled out millons to line his pockets? What do you care that he concerns himself not one whit about you (Autographs prior to last Thanksgiving? You've GOT to be kidding.....) but only that he can restore his image in order to keep the endorsements intact? People are free to admire any rodents and scumbags that they choose, but do you feel good having to PAY for that priviledge?

Certainly no-one is perfect but when the skank count hit 120 (including the 21-year-old next-door-neighbor) I don't believe that any fan with a hint of dignity can dispute the fact that mere weeks before "the wreck" Woods was parading his family at the Standford/Cal game and then providing an interview in Australia where he had the termerity to actually say "Famiy comes first." I'll explain the concept of hypocrisy to you one day.

And why even get into the issue of vile profanity in front of kids on the golf course? A few cusswords jammed into your living room never hurt anybody, huh, so why get your panities in a bunch just because for 14 years Tiger Woods has had zero respect for the integrity of the game? (Except when it comes to chasing Jack's record, of course.)

It's a free country: idolize whoever you choose.
09.10.2010 | Unregistered CommenterBenSeattle
"It's a free country: idolize whoever you choose. "

Gee, thanks for you permission. Just don't judge people because they choose to admire the work of someone's who's flawed. That makes YOU the scumbag. And a sanctimonious at that.

There's not point in regurgitating every single character defect inside the soul of Eldrick Woods. We know. We accept, but when he's on the golf course, we don't care. It's plain and simple. With Woods it was first and foremost about golf. That's why the fans like him and will continue to like him until he, oh I don't know, COMMITS AN ACTUAL CRIME!!! It was never about the beautiful wife, the kids, the pristine image, or the smile. He dominated the competition with flair and brought excitement to the game. It's why kids were lining up to get his autograph in New Jersey only hours after the the official implosion of his marriage was complete.

"As long as an athlete is famous enough and skilled enough, these hro-worshippers will continue to kowtow to the notoriously noteable, character be damned."

You mind lacks perspective and nuance. Again, this was not:

Murder
Rape
Assault
Robbery
Money Laundering
Dogfighting
Arson

This was not a crime, and if you actually expected people to shun an athlete because he did what many male athletes, past and present, have done, then you're stupid.

Just for the record, I think the whole concept of "image-rebuilding" is silly because Eldrick will not win. If he chooses not do an interview, hacks like Steve Elling will jump on him. If he were to be honest and forthright, gasbags like BenSeattle wouldn't believe him. He can't win. Again, Tiger admitted the divorce affected his golf game. Do you believe him, or do believe the most competitive athlete in the world went 0-4 in majors to please IMG?
09.10.2010 | Unregistered CommenterWonk.
Just to clarify:

You don’t care that Woods is a serial liar
You don’t care that Woods disrespected the game of golf
You don’t care that Woods ruined an innocent and loving family
You don’t care that Woods despised signing autographs for his adoring fans
You don’t care that Woods didn’t replace even one member of his enabling posse
You don’t care that Woods constantly surrounds himself with agents and PR flacks
You don’t care that Woods would hit on your wife or girlfriend if the opportunity arose
You don’t care that Woods created a completely fabricated image solely for monetary gain
You don’t care that Woods routinely used obscene language on television and in front of children
You don’t care that Woods not only had sex outside his marriage but established serious relationships with women who were not his wife
You don’t care that Woods will probably miss qualifying for the Tour Championship

Oh wait… you probably DO care about that.

Careful: the drool around Eldrick’s Nikes is getting a little deep.
09.10.2010 | Unregistered CommenterBenSeattle
Careful:" the drool around Eldrick’s Nikes is getting a little deep". BenSeattle has the last word! Wonderful irony,he must have English blood! "leave it out"
09.10.2010 | Unregistered CommenterBruce

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