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Monday
Jan312011

Stick-A-Fork-In Tiger Clippings, Volume 1

That didn't take long! One bad tournament and he's done!

Joe Posnanski on his Curiously Long Posts blog for SI pens a heartfelt, reasoned critique of Tiger from outside the ropes. The essence: are we in denial about the future of his game? It's a great read even if I think he's a bit premature. Though as he points out, when do we come to grips that things will never be the same?

But I think he is going to enter a new phase, where he will contend occasionally, like other golfers. He is going to enter a phase where it will be difficult to play well for four rounds. He is going to enter a phase where those 10-foot putts that were automatic will not be automatic anymore. I think things have changed for Tiger Woods, and they’re not going back. You can’t ever go back. And I don’t know how he is going to handle that. Nobody knows how he will handle it. Over the weekend, on one of his favorite courses, he looked lost. His swing was off. His short game was off. His putting was off. Yes, it was just his first tournament, but Tiger has always done really well in his first tournament — this was part of his game, he was always more ready to go when the seasons began than anyone else.

Anyway, what was as striking as anything was how uninterested he looked.

On that observation, Tiger's Sunday playing partner Brendan Steele would seem to agree, or so SI is saying they will report in this week's issue of Golf Plus.

"I don't think he gave it ­everything today," Steele told SI. "Once it started going in the wrong direction, I don’t think it had his full attention."

Meanwhile Steve Elling and John Huggan feast on Tiger in an entertaining Pond Scrum:

Elling: Blunt assessment time: I saw a guy who still can't string together four good rounds. He barely pieced together two good nines. Right now, Tiger Woods isn't one of the world's 40 best players. Last night in the San Diego airport, a bunch of scribes were actually discussing what would happen if he never made it back to anything close to his former levels at all. All of a sudden, it didn't sound like heresy.

Huggan: I'm perplexed. Tiger is supposed to have been (working) away since we last saw him at the Chevron and this is what he comes up with? He looked like Justin Leonard's idiot cousin. Can't drive. Can't chip. Can't putt. And let's not even get into his bunker play. Was he digging for buried treasure?

Elling: On Sunday, while he was carding his second-worst score on a course where he has won six of his last seven starts, I was trying to catalog his strengths during the week. Only thing he did above average was hit a few good long irons.

Huggan: Emphasis on a few. Most of the shots I saw were missing California, nevermind Torrey Pines.

Sally Jenkins offers a more diplomatic but essentially similar take:

It will be interesting to see if Woods, in his work with Foley, can really recover the swing of his own youth. Do yourself a favor and pull up some old footage of Woods, back when he was a collegiate player and U.S. Amateur champion. It’s a joy to watch. That kid, all elbows and knees, thwacked at the ball with such unconscious, unthinking pleasure. Now pull up modern footage, and you’ll be struck by the difference, how much stiffer he seems, how much he’s fighting his own body.

At this point, Woods’ swing looks over-taught, and over-thought. Through the years, Woods has gotten steadily more mechanical, as well as visibly stronger and more muscular. Woods’ perfectionism has been his greatest strength, but you have to wonder if all that seeking of improvement, his constant preoccupation with the technical, always serves him so well. Maybe the greatest player in the world overperfected his swing. It would be nice to see a more natural Woods.

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Ummmm....visibly stronger more muscular.....now how did That happen? And now he is decline and can't even frickin make a putt. Tiger do yourself a favor Retire for a year, come back when you can hit the ball, cause now its lookin pathetic.
01.31.2011 | Unregistered CommenterVwgolfer
Sheesh! He is everyone's bitch now.
01.31.2011 | Unregistered CommenterMarky Mark
I think people may want to be a little bit careful here before they pile on. Most of us have rooted for Tiger at some stage in the past and enjoyed the marvellous golf he has played. Most feel pretty let down and just awful for Elin and the children especially, but I wouldn't want to see Tiger do anything stupid if he is in for a tough year. It is only golf after all.
01.31.2011 | Unregistered CommenterBoyer
Excellent work by Posnanski as usual
01.31.2011 | Unregistered CommenterNRH
Tiger looked as if he was trying to emulate Huggans efforts to get out of a bunker using a hickory!
01.31.2011 | Unregistered Commenterchico
"Tiger looked as if he was trying to emulate Huggans efforts to get out of a bunker using a hickory!"
01.31.2011 | chico


That is just COLD ;)
02.1.2011 | Unregistered CommenterJay Townsend
Might be risky to do so - of looking even more ordinary, but.... he should just play more tournaments... be a regular tour guy.
02.1.2011 | Unregistered CommenterJohn C
As I watched Tiger this weekend, for the first time I considered what Posnanski postulates. The swing, the body language just don't look the same. And as I thought about a new, more ordinary Tiger, it occurred to me how sad that would be. I'm no fan of the man, but his game was a marvel to watch. Now, I want to turn away. It's becoming too much like a car wreck. Oh, right. We had one of those.
02.1.2011 | Unregistered CommenterTroglodyte
Posnanski's article was excellent, but the rookie should be careful about accusing others of mailing it in.
02.1.2011 | Unregistered CommenterSari
We live in interesting times.
02.1.2011 | Unregistered CommenterTighthead
I find it highly ironic that on his twitter feed Steele thanks tiger for being so nice to him, and then he went out and threw him under the bus. Just poor form.

Also I think the Jenkins articles makes some interesting points, but there are so many obvious factual errors it makes it difficult to take seriously (and this seems to be true in general of a lot of the golf media).

Yes, Tiger was clearly horrible at Torrey (a place where he has had a lot of success in the past), but just over a week ago in Abu Dhabi, Mickelson looked miserable, and Westwood was even worse. Prior to Torrey TW had finished top 15 in his last 6 starts and top 10 in the last 3. So a little perspective would be a welcome change, before Elling decides that right now he's not one of the top 50 golfers in the world.
02.1.2011 | Unregistered Commenterseak
Factual errors by golf scribblers? . . . Shocking . . . Next thing you know people will be saying the main stream media is not giving us accurate reporting either. . . What is that old adage . . . "When you are playing golf poorly you think you will never play well again - when you are playing well you think you will never play poorly again - neither thought is true."
02.1.2011 | Unregistered CommenterWisconsin Reader
@Tighthead: Yes we do. Brendan Steele? Tiger had a bad week. Stuff happens. He has a steep mountain to climb, without a guide or a rope. Maybe he will. I have my doubts, but writing him off (as a golfer) is slightly premature.
He'll be back. It's easy to kick a guy when he's down and Tiger surely brought a lot of the venom on himself with his conduct and his attitude before his malfeasance was know, but he'll figure it out. He has too much talent to be "done". I have him winning four tournaments and one major this year. Then again, my motto is "Often wrong, never in doubt"!
02.1.2011 | Unregistered Commentertlavin
I agree with Ky. Too early to write Eldrick off.
Quite a few greats in almost every area have lost what brought them to the dance. Down here, it's called "he followed a wagon off."

Writers, athletes, filmmakers, musicians and others that hit stardom often derail due to adulation, fireworks and a feeling that it will always be that way.

Perhaps Eldrick will find it and "dance with who brung him."
02.1.2011 | Unregistered CommenterLudell Hogwaller
I'm not as expert as any of your regulars here so I seek some wisdom. Has anyone ever come back from the kind of slump that Tigers been through, what ever the cause? Hogan maybe after the accident? Many have not, Iain Baker Finch, David Duval spring to mind as people who worked hard to regain the gift but have not succeeded. Tiger has the intestinal fortitude to do it, that and a high level of skill is what kept him at the top for so many years. However, he seems to be facing 'long odds'
Value anyones opinion
John
02.1.2011 | Unregistered Commenterjayem
Chico/Jay.....

Chico, I read that, and my thoughts were exactly as were Jay's ....... Cold :)

Maybe a little shovel and a plastic bucket need to be added to Foley's swing training devices.
02.1.2011 | Unregistered Commenterdigsouth
One thing that struck me over the weekend was that yank job out of the rough on 17 (besides the pedestrian putting).
I immediately thought , "Thats may have been a horrific lie, but he thought he could execute it- and he looked like me."
If he's lost some power and loses some touch- whats left?
02.1.2011 | Unregistered Commenterjjshaka
It's not the bad ballstriking that's shocking - he's lived and even prospered through that before - it's the mental errors. This guy used to shortside himself twice a tournament, at Torrey it was at least twice per nine. So aside from not being able to find a fairway, he now can't chip or hit a bunker shot and can't hole a putt. Oh, and he can't hit a wedge close from the short grass. Other than that, same old TW ....

He's strong willed and stubborn as they come, so maybe he turns the ship around but he's got to be having self doubts and when you're TW, there's no room for self doubt.
02.1.2011 | Unregistered CommenterAK47
I haven't written Tiger off, but agree with Posnanski's thesis that Tiger's entered a new phase in his career. Tiger will win again, and he may surpass Nicklaus' record in the majors, but it won't be a cakewalk.

As Jagger and Richards put it, "Time waits for no man…"
02.1.2011 | Unregistered CommenterMike T.
Tilted and stuck, the former love machine is.
02.1.2011 | Unregistered CommenterAunt Blabbie
Just seems Tiger plays that kind of golf no one here seems to like. Yet there are supporters, just sayin.
02.1.2011 | Unregistered Commentervwgolfer
Duval did the same thing as TW, got into phenomenal shape..I think it was like 8% body fat...then couldn't win a thing on tour and dropped to 350th or something?

As another poster brilliantly put it "Tiger is playing swing not golf right now."

Tiger needs to enter more tournaments and actually try his swing changes in a lower tier/lower pressure tournament and not on the stage of the majors or a WGC event after playing sporadically
02.1.2011 | Unregistered CommenterThe Q
@jayem:

Jack Nicklaus finished 79th on the Money List in 1979 (aged 39), looking washed up and uniterested the whole way. But he made a few changes in both his full swing and his short game with Phil Rodgers, and came back to win both the US Open and the PGA the year after, and continued to contend regularly in majors until his epic Masters win at age 46 in ´86.

Another forgotten player in the comeback department is Greg Norman. After getting beat to a pulp by Faldo at S:t Andrews in 1990 (aged 35), he entered a long slump, finishing 53rd on the Money List in ´91 and only getting one W, a very scrappy one in Canada in ´92. But he began working with Butch Harmon and came back in ´93 a much better and steadier player than he was before. The three-year period between Doral in ´93 and Augusta in ´96 was probably the strech in his career when he played his best golf, even though he continued to get burned royally in majors...

In other words, a Tiger comeback with a new teacher would be far from unprecedented.
02.1.2011 | Unregistered CommenterHawkeye
The gap between him and the top players in the world is still the same, except the roles have been reversed.

What will the general perception be if he drops out of the top 10 in the world rankings? Will that be the official "writing off" point?
02.1.2011 | Unregistered CommenterPA PLAYA
Tiger is a victim of his vastly superior success over a 13+ Year career. Seriously folks, do you think he or anybody could keep that level of play ad infinitum. If you check the great Nickalus record, you will find many periods of dormancy there. (I dont know if his play dropped or people just outplayed him because I did not see his play) Based on his play during the tail end of 2010, I would say he is on track to improve. What happened at Torrey, I dont know, but It is not for me to figure that out.
I believe that folks are prematurely writing his golf epitah, which I consider somewhat sad and callous and also a bit bizarre ( bizarre, because I sense the tone of almost devlish glee, and get rid of the $%$% SOB.)
Again I would say, let this 2011 play out and if he does not win a Major or a tournament, then since you must "bury him". Until then why not give the Tiger Woods story a rest and allow it to happen regardless of how we view it.
Personally fo someone with such wondrous talent, I would like to see him bring back the talent and play well once again. So I hope he does not quit.
02.1.2011 | Unregistered CommenterPeachtree
Thinking out aloud - none of Tiger Woods win was ever a cake walk. He had to shoot the lowest score to win. People have the mistaken belief that the players Woods beat were amateurs, which does a complete disservice to the players in the Tiger Woods era. Until the present day players,who somehow are considered more talented than the Woods era players, achieved the level of wins, including Majors, the jury is way out on them. If Talent does not translate to major wins, forget about it
02.1.2011 | Unregistered CommenterPeachtree
Thinking out aloud - none of Tiger Woods win was ever a cake walk. He had to shoot the lowest score to win. People have the mistaken belief that the players Woods beat were amateurs, which does a complete disservice to the players in the Tiger Woods era. Until the present day players,who somehow are considered more talented than the Woods era players, achieved the level of wins, including Majors, the jury is way out on them. If Talent does not translate to major wins, forget about it
02.1.2011 | Unregistered CommenterPeachtree
The Posonoski article is very well done, IMO.
02.1.2011 | Unregistered CommenterPress Agent
I've been a staunch defender of Woods for a while now. I'm tired of it and so is everyone else, so I won't bother. My saying he'll win again is as pointless as someone saying he won't. It's all just silly speculation. Some of it generates pageviews and some of it doesn't.

I do sincerely hope he finds his form again. I love playing the game, but watching it can be a real chore. Without Tiger, it's incredibly boring. I know I'm not in the minority with this opinion. Hell, even with him in his present form it's still pretty boring.
02.1.2011 | Unregistered Commenterdsl
Something tells me that this story doesn't end with Tiger finishing his career like Miller, IBF or Duval. He's too complicated a character.
02.1.2011 | Unregistered CommenterLongy
It's fascinating to me how important psychology is. Sean Foley don't mean squat here......just as Harmon and Haney didn't. The mechanical stuff has always been window dressing. He separated himself from the next bests because of his belief in himself, his belief in himself as super man.

That's all gone now, and he's become ordinary.

I think it's unlikely that his magic will return, but I won't say it's impossible. I predict he has some sort of early-40s resurgence, as Nicklaus did.
02.1.2011 | Unregistered CommenterJPB
Hawkeye, behind that Great White Shark was one heckuva Nervous Nellie. The way he always fidgeted with his grip and stance illustrated that story.
02.1.2011 | Unregistered CommenterAunt Blabbie
Brendan Steele answered a question I thought?
Or, did he just offer his opinion unasked.
If he was answering a question, and did so honestly, isn't that what people would like?
02.1.2011 | Unregistered Commenterfatgoalie

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