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Friday
Jan272012

"Apps May Kill Golf As We Know It"

Roger Groves thinks smart phone apps will eventually kill the game. I'm not sure I'm buying it, but he certainly makes an interesting case that they could, at some point, add to golf's slow play woes.

The way I play, 18 holes is long enough. Apps that prolong it and then remind me of my failures are App-torturous and should be illegal. Yet we would have to reverse the profit motive in one of America’s most lucrative and ascendant for-profit industries to stop the intrusion of Apps and STU phones on the course. There is probably no handicap that can equalize my chances of avoiding these consequences.

As of early December, 2011, we crossed the threshold of having over one million Apps. The techno golf era is stalking the fairways. Nothing I see is sending it back to the clubhouse until every player is solicited with Apps for the swing, the strategy, the shot, the statistics, the co-golfer comparisons, and other score-dropping calculations from your STU phone. Don’t expect the golf courses to ban STU phones. If billion-dollar football and basketball industries cannot resist the advertising revenues, why would a struggling golf course industry? Will you resist? See you at the “How to Correct your Slice” App.

And on that note, Golf Digest announced two new partnerships, including a GolfLogix app tie-in that Groves will hate and a GolfNow app with course ranking info.

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I couldn't disagree more.

Up until last week, I worked for a education and golf foundation that rewarded kids with Golf if they did good in their studies. Most of them did great with the education, and a lot of them/the majority of them hated it and didn't understand golf at all with no intention of ever learning--just like me when I was a kid, where I swore that Golf was for old people next to death. We are talking kids that complained and even threatened to quit the foundation because they hated golf that much.

Early last year, some of us started utilizing iPhones and iPads (at our own expense) with the V1 Swing analyzer app and we started showing them their swings on video whilst on the driving range. We drew the colored lines that are included on these apps to show them what they were doing right, and mentioned a few things they could improve on--because we all want the positive--suddenly, I myself saw a remarkable advancement in engaging the ones that didn't want to hit shots. I let them operate the iPad; let them email it to themselves so they could watch and read their swings when they got home and up until last week, when this wonderful foundation shuttered its doors forever, they were engaged into Golf, and it was the very electronics gizmos that got them there....

If we want golf to succeed throughout the world, or at least here in America, we have to engage the youth and make them feel that there is nothing to worry about. That its O.K. to fail, and succeed, and prosper and do so in a healthy, honest way.

Golf is that for me despite my opinions so long ago. It changed my life. (imagine that)
01.27.2012 | Unregistered CommenterTommy Naccarato
I certainly love my GolfLogix app.
01.28.2012 | Unregistered CommenterShane
It's supposed to be a bloody game! Tomorrow we will know if Tiger is really, really back. Is there an app that will tell me that today?
01.28.2012 | Unregistered CommenterIvan Morris
The extremification of journalism - this thing will kill that, this is the second coming of that and will save the world.

You can make an many arguments that smartphones will speed up play - they all have gps radios - eventually someone will hook all phones together to get distance from measurements so people know exactly when to hit and waiting for someone 300 yards away to clear will be a thing of the past for one instance. Hell I bet someone could write an app that runs simultaneously on each person in a foursome and tell them what to do to keep pace, like that gadget/smartphone app that keeps your fitness stats and tells you when to move around.

For now, since slow play doesn't seem to be going anytime away soon, I am glad I can pretty much do whatever I can do on a computer on the course while waiting for the group in front of me taking 10 minutes to find their balls.

Slow play is a people problem first, it doesn't originate from smartphones.
01.28.2012 | Unregistered Commenterjohn
The extremification of journalism - this thing will kill that, this is the second coming of that and will save the world.

You can make an many arguments that smartphones will speed up play - they all have gps radios - eventually someone will hook all phones together to get distance from measurements so people know exactly when to hit and waiting for someone 300 yards away to clear will be a thing of the past for one instance. Hell I bet someone could write an app that runs simultaneously on each person in a foursome and tell them what to do to keep pace, like that gadget/smartphone app that keeps your fitness stats and tells you when to move around.

For now, since slow play doesn't seem to be going anytime away soon, I am glad I can pretty much do whatever I can do on a computer on the course while waiting for the group in front of me taking 10 minutes to find their balls.

Slow play is a people problem first, it doesn't originate from smartphones.
01.28.2012 | Unregistered Commenterjohn
Strike gps radios - gps antennas
01.28.2012 | Unregistered Commenterjohn
The hardest thing to do in the future will be to decide which of the thousands of suspects you and other writers have pontificated about is actually responsible for the death of golf.
01.28.2012 | Unregistered CommenterJ Sanders
"Slow play is a people problem first, it doesn't originate from smart phones." Well said, John. Two things are killing golf: the excessive cost and the amount of time it takes to play 18-holes. Simples!
01.28.2012 | Unregistered CommenterIvan Morris
I've seen it happen. An occasional playing partner get a golf tracking app for his phone. We wait on every tee, while he pecks in details of every shot on the previous hole. He'll be invited join us less frequently,however he'll be out there somewhere, holding up play.
01.28.2012 | Unregistered CommenterMarge Geneverra
Agree with Tom N...great points. As a teacher myself, I know firsthand how difficult it is to get the new youngsters engaged in golf...any type of techy gizmo that gets their attention while being relatively quick and easy to use is fine by me. I'm more old school...but am not scared of using I-phones...just not for golf. I like to keep it simple...but that doesn't really cut it with today's plugged in generations.

As for slow play...yes it is a "people" problem more than a gizmo problem...but they don't help people stay focused on the game IMO...they help distract some people from being ready to play when it's their turn, all it takes is a few groups and then the course is backed up. In the end, each club should have the decision making power whether to allow cell phones on the course and other related policies.

And...for all the wonder those apps promise, they won't help you carry it 200 over water from a hanging lie to a front pin...that's up to what you brought to the plate that day....thank god for that!
01.28.2012 | Unregistered Commenterjohnnnycz
I don't have any apps at all, but golf seems to still be fun. Of course, my cell phone is barely smart enough to remember my contacts' numbers. As one of my colleagues put it the other day when we were discussing the problems the 140-character generation has sitting on their asses and mastering the material, we live in an "information-toxic environment." Except for the 150-yard stakes and the occasional sprinkler head that still has numbers on it, my golf remains free of this information toxicity.
Here's a slow play solution, first suggested by a Shackelfordian named Steve.

We have tested it here at Rockbottum CC and found it actually works.


http://youtu.be/jp8QxN0p9QM
01.28.2012 | Unregistered CommenterLudell Hogwaller
Beauty is you can't use this junk while playing golf.
01.28.2012 | Unregistered Commentersmails
Wow. That article was a a steaming pike of too-clever-by-half prose about nothing.

I have an iPhone and a yardage app. It's a great tool on courses I've never played before to know what I'm up against. But for yardages, by far the coolest thing ever is the Garmin Approach gps watch. It doesn't get any better. Several players I play with have bought one after seeing mine.
01.28.2012 | Unregistered CommenterBsoudi
Its not the tool, its the monkey using it.
01.28.2012 | Unregistered CommenterA3
Bravo, Ky !!! I was debating how to say it without being my usual caustic self. Now I don't have to, but you can imagine what was bubbling under the surface when golf apps replace human ingenuity.
01.28.2012 | Unregistered CommenterD. maculata
Speaking from first hand experience, I haven't seen a golf related app slow down play yet. All the other junk on the phone, well that's a different story; don't check your email or start sending texts out there. That should go without saying.

I use a GPS app to get my yardages and keep my score. It speeds up my play; by the time I get to the ball, 2 seconds later I've got a yardage and a club in mind. Step in, hit the shot, rinse, repeat. I input my score walking from green to the next tee. Playing on my own, I'm done 18 in ~3hrs if I've got no one in front of me. Not having the need to "eyeball it" or look for a sprinkler head can only speed up play, not slow it down.

Groves comes across as a curmudgeon in the article who's selective memory from one day on the links prompted the doom-and-gloom article. "Public course users can buy its older iPhone 3 for as low as $49..." I wasn't aware Apple had a lower priced option for all the lower income players relegated to public course play, thank you.

@Marge, maybe you should suggest he enters the data while you're riding in your cart from the green to the next tee and not be so judgmental on the gent for using his phone on the course.
01.28.2012 | Unregistered CommenterDoctor Z
Must mention one caveat here...I LOVE the i-Green app....but only use it when the rules officials paint in dots where the tourney's pin positions are going to be while playing practice rounds, and I borrow my buddy's phone to do that. Still...I managed to gag most the short ones though...is there an app that can swing the club for me via a matrix like cranial up-link?
01.28.2012 | Unregistered Commenterjohnnnycz
The bottom line is that green fees, club memberships and club annual dues and golf equipment are far too expensive and playing golf, counting from the time you leave your home until the time you return, consumes far too much time. Most young people and seniors do not have the money to play frequently. Young professionals who are involved with their careers and concerned about their futures in uncertain economic times and/or are married and/or have children cannot take off so much time to play golf. This is not difficult to figure out.
As a spectator sport, golf is propped up by Tiger Woods and Tiger Woods alone. The other players, nice as they may be, lack charisma. Take Tiger out of the mix and what do you have (please avoid the oh so witty remarks about his personal life, deceit, role model,etc.)?
01.28.2012 | Unregistered CommenterBuffett
So play bridge.
01.28.2012 | Unregistered Commentersmails
Apps very well MAY kill golf as we know it, but then again, is that such a bad thing? Technology has brought us far in recent years (I still remember playing in high school with my dad's driver that was made of, *gasp!* wood!

Sure, you've got the "course condition" apps, but I tend to play the tiny, local courses near me. However, on the training and coaching side of things there seem to be some real winners out there. Instant critiquing, sharing and coaching certainly can't hurt someone who's trying to improve their game. One of the coolest apps that I've downloaded recently has been the "Coach's Eye" app. It lets me or my instructor record my swing, and then play it back in Slo-Mo or go frame-by-frame using a nifty little scroll bar. Add to that the ability to draw on the video, record feedback, and email, MMS, tweet or upload it to YouTube.

Everybody has an iPhone or Droid lately, and the fact that, with two clicks, I can capture the results of my $100/hour lessons and review them instantly or later on at home make a $5 or $10 investment in a quick app so well worth it.
01.28.2012 | Unregistered CommenterBryan Weber
I would like an app to tell me how to avoid people who think that golf is ruined by anything made after 1925.
01.28.2012 | Unregistered CommenterA3
More like 1995.
It speeds it up for me, too. I have know my yardage when I get to my ball. I know what my carry is over water or my layup is in front of trouble. At the same time, I don't have a confidence free guessing game. Just grab my club and know what shot to make.
At the end of the round, I also know where my misses are going, so I can work on that at the range, to play better (speed up) my next round.
Plus, if I'm with a slow playing hemmer/hawer I can just drop their info - "You're 150 to the flag, 120 to carry.... Five iron or so?" They indignantly answer something like "No. That's an 8!" Then hurry to make their club choice and hit. Just to show me how much better they are than I think. It's a great way to eliminate wasted time.
I love my apps.
01.28.2012 | Unregistered CommenterMonkeyNaut
Totally disagree. My golf app speeds me up, it allows me to know the range I am from the hole without needing to dig out a laser range finder and without needing to look around for the nearest sprinkler head and guess my distance triangulated in my own head from that point.

Roger sounds to have a fear of technology. I wonder if he might have suggested 5 years ago that GPS units in cars would cause more people to get lost and take longer to reach their destinations?

Sorry Roger, but you need to rethink this one.
01.29.2012 | Unregistered CommenterGolfSpy Tim

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