Latest From GolfDigest.com
Latest From Local Knowledge
Twitter
Books
  • Lines of Charm: Brilliant And Irreverent Quotes, Notes, And Anecdotes from Golf's Golden Age Architects
    Lines of Charm: Brilliant And Irreverent Quotes, Notes, And Anecdotes from Golf's Golden Age Architects
  • The Future of Golf: How Golf Lost Its Way and How to Get It Back
    The Future of Golf: How Golf Lost Its Way and How to Get It Back
    by Geoff Shackelford
  • Grounds for Golf: The History and Fundamentals of Golf Course Design
    Grounds for Golf: The History and Fundamentals of Golf Course Design
    by Geoff Shackelford
  • The Art of Golf Design
    The Art of Golf Design
    by Michael Miller, Geoff Shackelford
  • Alister MacKenzie's Cypress Point Club
    Alister MacKenzie's Cypress Point Club
    by Geoff Shackelford
  • The Golden Age of Golf Design
    The Golden Age of Golf Design
    by Geoff Shackelford
  • The Good Doctor Returns: A Novel
    The Good Doctor Returns: A Novel
    by Geoff Shackelford
  • Masters of the Links: Essays on the Art of Golf and Course Design
    Masters of the Links: Essays on the Art of Golf and Course Design
  • The Captain: George C. Thomas Jr. and His Golf Architecture
    The Captain: George C. Thomas Jr. and His Golf Architecture
    by Geoff Shackelford
Current Reading
  • Bobby's Open: Mr Jones and the Golf Shot that Defined a Legend
    Bobby's Open: Mr Jones and the Golf Shot that Defined a Legend
    by Steven Reid
  • The Longest Shot: Jack Fleck, Ben Hogan, and Pro Golf's Greatest Upset at the 1955 U.S. Open
    The Longest Shot: Jack Fleck, Ben Hogan, and Pro Golf's Greatest Upset at the 1955 U.S. Open
    by Neil Sagebiel
  • Don't Mess with Travis: A Novel
    Don't Mess with Travis: A Novel
    by Bob Smiley
  • Wonder Girl: The Magnificent Sporting Life of Babe Didrikson Zaharias
    Wonder Girl: The Magnificent Sporting Life of Babe Didrikson Zaharias
    by Don Van Natta Jr.

    The USGA's 2011 Herbert Warren Wind Book Award winner

  • The Big Miss: My Years Coaching Tiger Woods
    The Big Miss: My Years Coaching Tiger Woods
    by Hank Haney

    The ebook edition.

Classics
  • Golf Architecture in America: Its Strategy and Construction
    Golf Architecture in America: Its Strategy and Construction
    by Geo. C. Thomas
  • The Course Beautiful : A Collection of Original Articles and Photographs on Golf Course Design
    The Course Beautiful : A Collection of Original Articles and Photographs on Golf Course Design
    Treewolf Prod
  • Reminiscences Of The Links
    Reminiscences Of The Links
    by Albert Warren Tillinghast, Richard C. Wolffe, Robert S. Trebus, Stuart F. Wolffe
  • Gleanings from the Wayside
    Gleanings from the Wayside
    by Albert Warren Tillinghast
  • Planet Golf USA: The Definitive Reference to Great Golf Courses in America
    Planet Golf USA: The Definitive Reference to Great Golf Courses in America
    by Darius Oliver
  • Planet Golf: The Definitive Reference to Great Golf Courses Outside the United States of America
    Planet Golf: The Definitive Reference to Great Golf Courses Outside the United States of America
    by Darius Oliver
Writing And Videos
Feedblitz
Enter your Email


Powered by FeedBlitz
« Video: 2012 Open Championship Round Three Highlights | Main | ESPN Open Ratings Well Up For First Two Days »
Saturday
Jul212012

Long Putters Will Not Be Outlawed; Anchoring Another Story

Alex Miceli gives us an idea what is being discussed inside the meeting rooms at Lytham, Olympic and Augusta over the last few months and it appears any kind of change to the rules that excludes elongated putters will not happen.

However, the same can't be said for anchoring, though a decision is likely in the coming months.

“I think it's incumbent on us to make our position reasonably clear in months rather than years," Peter Dawson, chief executive of the R&A, said about the anchoring issue while attending the Open at Royal Lytham & St. Annes Golf Club.

Mike Davis says the complication of defining the act is the current topic for discussion.

According to Davis, who became the USGA's seventh executive director in March 2011, equipment is off the table and the focus is solely on the stroke itself.

“If you want to ban something, what do you want to ban? Because you just say the word anchoring, it can mean a lot of different things,” Davis said in outlining the difficulty of any rules change. “And it's not just putting, either. There are clubs that come out that you can literally put – people that have yips with the pitch shots – there are clubs now where you can anchor a club underneath your armpit and pitch that way. The point is, there's a lot more to this than just somebody with a belly putting.”

PrintView Printer Friendly Version

EmailEmail Article to Friend

Reader Comments (47)

They finally figured out that the ''Bush Rule'' is bush league.
07.21.2012 | Unregistered Commenterdigsouth
Are the long putter lobby as powerful as the NRA? Just ban the thing. Shortest club in the bag. It isn't that complicated surely.
07.21.2012 | Unregistered CommenterMike Clayton
I can agree with that. I've never had a problem with the length of the putter. I do have a problem with anchoring it to your body; whether the person is chipping or putting. I'm sure they come up with a definition of anchoring there are medical and legal terms for each part of our body so it's not that difficult.
07.21.2012 | Unregistered CommenterMatt A
Did Billy Casper anchor the putter against his thigh?
07.21.2012 | Unregistered CommenterMike Clayton
Here are a couple of key questions:

1) Is there any research/facts to support that anchoring or the long putter improves putts per round? If so, by how much compared to a conventional putter? This would need to be averaged for numerous players/skill levels (avoiding bifurcation), and rounds played.

2) While an illegal golf ball or driver can be determined to hit the ball further, can a similar metric be applied to the long putter (i.e.reduction in putts per round)? For it to be illegal, this improvement would have to be NEARLY universal for anyone who uses one.

3) IF, the long putter or anchor putter is so helpful in regards to the previous question, why doesn't everyone use one?

I have never seen these questions answered in regards to the long putter or anchoring.
07.21.2012 | Unregistered CommenterD.
D.
I think I am right in saying Dave Pelz has researched the benefits of the longer putters. I think his study was from a purely technical aspect of the quality and consistency of the stroke

If Pelz research is right - that the longer putters are better - then there will be a whole generation who will never use the short putter.
If you don't care about the short putter don't ban the long one.
07.21.2012 | Unregistered CommenterMike Clayton
I wouldn't mind hearing a few opinions on the following:

1. Would Bernhard's grip circa '91 be considered problematic for those who support a ban. Seems he got a pass because he stryggled so much at times.

2. Does anyone know the usage number on other Tours, it doesn't seem to be as prevalent on the LPGA Tour.

3. If the long putter ostensibly helps those with inferior putting skills, could an analogy be made to perimeter weighted irons helping less skilled ballstrikers?
07.21.2012 | Unregistered CommenterNC Phyllis
Just make it illegal to anchor any club on your trunk and above the elbow on the arms.
Langers first Masters win grip should be as far as it goes.
07.21.2012 | Unregistered Commenterjjshaka
"Just make it illegal to anchor any club on your trunk and above the elbow on the arms.
Langers first Masters win grip should be as far as it goes."

This makes sense.
It's possible when choking up, say when standing well below the ball to have the end of the grip touching your forearm, or even your trunk...

It won't be simple but the Scott and Els stokes must be outlawed. At least Ernie agrees.

Shortest club in the bag doesn't work - see Ray Floyd - nothing wrong with that stroke.
07.21.2012 | Unregistered Commenterlloydcole
Enjoyed the comments.
I had questions similar to D. a while back, then read some remarks that claimed the good putters don't need or usually utilize the long putter or anchoring. But it does make the golfers who are below average putters better, especially on the relatively short putts. And I think that is what Pelz has said, though I don't know if this is in reference to the long putter or specifically anchoring with the long putter.

Not that it should play a role in any rule determination, but one thing I like about the long putter is, if one has back issues, practice with the long putter may be associated with much less pain. I think that is one reason Rocco initially went to the long putter.
07.21.2012 | Unregistered Commentergov. lepetomane
@ shaka - Again - WHY? Can anyone answer my questions earlier in the thread?

It seems people want to ban it "just because" or they "don't like how it looks" or it is "against tradition".
07.21.2012 | Unregistered CommenterD.
Give a 4 year transition or something like that, then ban anchoring - including the broomstick anchor where the club might not actually be touching the chest, but the fist or hand is. And @D as for why, it is against the tradition of the game, and that is reason enough. Prior to the last few years, peer pressure and frankly shame kept all but Sr golfers or basket cases from using it, but that has broken down. As for the argument that if it made everyone better, than all the players would use them - that is not needed. Right now it makes on category of player - those with yippy or shaky putting strokes - better, and that is problematic enough. If putting is supposed to be part of the game, having a semi-uniform way of swinging the club should set out in the rules.
07.21.2012 | Unregistered CommenterBrianS
Can someone explain to me why, if long putters are so advantageous, they aren't in the bag of literally 100% of professionals who play the sport for a living?
07.21.2012 | Unregistered Commenterjgw
D.
I would say the reason is because the hands must always be the sole controlling force in the gripping of any club- part of the challenge is that the hands are full of fast twitch muscles which adds to the challenge of the game- especially on the greens.
Anchoring fundamentally alters that- it changes the nature of the game.
Just my opinion.
07.21.2012 | Unregistered Commenterjjshaka
jgw-
I think it's because most pros believe that their hands , through practice, don't need to anchor or it might create a problem with feel.
However,if you're Els and you are yipping- the anchoring rule is a godsend.
07.21.2012 | Unregistered Commenterjjshaka
D.

Why do those questions have to be answered at all. Many sports, including golf, have rules because rules are what make sports what they are - and not some other sport.

Why not get rid of baseballs Balk rule?
Why not allow a basketball player to hold the ball with both hands then dribble again?
Why not allow the 8-ball player to jump the ball how he/she wants?

I could go on but my point is that rules are what make the game "golf" regardless if there is proof that the rule hurts or helps.
07.21.2012 | Unregistered CommenterMatt A
jjshaka "Anchoring fundamentally alters that- it changes the nature of the game."

...you nailed it
07.21.2012 | Unregistered CommenterMatt A
Agree with Lloyd Cole - Ray Floyd had a bad back and short arms, and thus used a putter as long as his two-iron with a traditional stroke. Besides, regulating which club should be the shortest doesn't make any sense, you could move around the rule by stamping the word "putter" on the sole of your lob wedge and claim that you're in fact putting with your 48", mallet-headed 2-degree driver. And if you stipulate that you have to putt with the shortest club in the bag, you are also removing the option of putting with anything other than your lob wedge should you break the shaft of your putter á la Ben Crenshaw in the 1987 Ryder Cup.
07.21.2012 | Unregistered CommenterHawkeye
Please not the "shortest club in the bag" rule. I'm 6'2 and use a 37-inch putter; I just like to hold my hands very high. I nominate jjshaka for the R & A rules committee.
07.21.2012 | Unregistered CommenterCBell
its a play on words

NO rule change (maybe) on elongated putters but anchored is on the table, who'd want a broomstick putter when you can't anchor it, game-set-match.
I just dont care that much about the belly/long putter. I would much rather see the focus be on reining the ball in. Good putters dont seem to need it, bad ones do sure-but you know what-I like watching some of the good classic ballstrikers that cant putt continue to play. Scott, Ells, etc. 95% of putting still has to be reading the greens and getting the speed right.

And whose to say golf shouldnt evolve? All other popular sports are constantly adding new rules and tweaks all the time. I think its kind of myopic to think that with all the changes in equipment, the one that probably has the least effect on results gets focused on.

Think about the difference between a modern driver and one of 20 years ago and the difference in the way they would play. But putting equipment is always supposed to stay the same?
07.21.2012 | Unregistered Commenterutahgolfer
I saw some times in the past few days when carrying one less wedge, and adding an extra putter that was seven feet long (one could anchor it on his shoulder and behind his ear) would give a player a huge advantage. There isn't any requirement to actually strike a ball with every club, but it would really help when taking relief. Mike Davis says it would be perfectly legal, although I suspect one's fellow pros might not care for the strategy. But if five feet is legal, why not seven.....why not ten?
07.21.2012 | Unregistered CommenterJJ
My guess is that it is somehow easier to make a change regarding the game itself (ie: "the stroke") than to make changes in "equipment" that is allowed/disallowed. Mike Davis at the Open was quoted as saying if there was a change made, it would concern the stroke. Fine, once anchoring is eliminated then the length of putter issue will go away - if you can't anchor, the longer the putter is, the harder it would be to control.
07.21.2012 | Unregistered CommenterBrianS
If you ban the long or belly putter, say good bye to 10 to15% of the day to day players. The usga can't afforded to loose any more players. Let's work on the ball and the pace of play. Remember the women's open? 3 hours for nine holes is a far worst crime than the long putter.
07.21.2012 | Unregistered CommenterMark
Actually, doing something about a ball that goes 195 yards (in the air, straight) when struck by a 7-iron under "normal" conditions is far more important than the putter. Still, I heard Sir Nick say on BBC today that only one long putter user did not make the cut. That number will get some attention. Just ban anchoring to the trunk, as jjshaka says. Kuchar's style will remain legal, as will anyone else who uses a long(er) putter, but who doesn't anchor it at a pivot point that is not on an extremity (no belly or chest or chin). Meaning also that holding the putter against the sternum or chin with the top hand will not be within the rules. So simple only the Bird Man tackler could fail to see it. /s
07.21.2012 | Unregistered CommenterKLG
Make the putter the shortest club in the bag, end of problem.
07.21.2012 | Unregistered CommenterJoey
Only one club with a loft of < 8 degrees and no other club can be shorter.
07.21.2012 | Unregistered CommenterPaboy
Arnold Palmer says take 15% off the ball. And that is precisely what should be done. A ball flown 325 would now fly 275. Make that change and this sport would start to resemble golf again.

At the Pro level: Drivers 400cc or smaller, putters not anchored belly or long, grooves have been addressed/so that's all good.

All this equipment at the club amatuer level,...let them play it if it helps them enjoy the game.
07.21.2012 | Unregistered CommenterJT
Paboy,

so people who hit 7.5 degree drivers (yes, they are out there, whether they should be hitting them or not) have to use a putter with more than 8 degrees of loft?

No, I think the suggestions above have the answer -- define what is legal and illegal anchoring and go from there. If someone has a bad back and they want to use a 38 inch putter, then so be it. Just don't smoosh it against your belly.
07.21.2012 | Unregistered CommenterBignose
JT

I agree with Arnie - especially since he is not the only one to have made this statement, Jack has also advised that the ball needs a rollback.
07.21.2012 | Unregistered CommenterMatt A
Love the debate and particularly love that Lloyd Cole is passionately commenting here!
07.21.2012 | Unregistered CommenterErrol
And while they're at it, get rid of wedges over 56 degrees.
07.22.2012 | Unregistered CommenterChris Moody
@Joey, that simply wouldn't work - see my previous comment.
07.22.2012 | Unregistered CommenterHawkeye
Take a look at the Tour Putting stats, Strokes Gained, overall putting....these are not littered with long putter users. It's a mental benefit only, like those wrist bracelets some of them wear. When Stricker, Faxon, Christie Kerr, Loren Roberts switch its a problem.
07.22.2012 | Unregistered CommenterNC Phyllis
Sorry to keep harping in this all, but they are not going to do anything about the "club". It will be the anchoring/stroke that they potentially deal with - and rightfully so - that is what has people offended, not just the length of the putter. And again, if they ban anchoring, long putters will be a liability and disappear.
07.22.2012 | Unregistered CommenterBrianS
First to those trying to reason that just because the top putters in stats don't have a long putter...are you serious? Can you not understand that a terrible putter may be better with an anchored putter but still might not rank the highest. If a guy goes unfairly from 115 to 40 in putting you don't think its an issue because he's not the best putter?

Also, I'd the r&a so busy they can't address both issues with putters and the ball? can't they fix both?
07.22.2012 | Unregistered Commentertime to ban
A few months ago I read a several page article in a golf magazine about short versus long putters. From memory they used all sorts of tests including putts made from various distances and the Short putter proved to be the winner. I have used both types of putter and if I dont pick the right line, correct speed and make a good stroke neither of the putters works very well.
07.23.2012 | Unregistered CommenterSteve
When Jack, Player, Watson and Palmer are interviewed they always talk about the ball being wound back and not about long putters in the interviews I have seen. I think that puts the long putter into perspective.
07.23.2012 | Unregistered CommenterSteve
@Steve...jack and the others have already been on the record wanting to ban long putters. they've made it pretty clear about this. They still have issues with the ball so they are still answering questions about this, but haven't ignored the putter.

Of course you still have to make the right read, right speed, and right line. Pretty obvious, but starting the ball on your intended line with a long putter is easier for most especially under pressure. I think that's the main benefit of a long putter. takes the nerves out of putting and makes one who struggles more consistent in their stroke.
07.23.2012 | Unregistered CommenterCharlie
The USGA is a joke. They can ban a putter that doesn't provide an advantage, but they can't ban the CHEATER LINE? Screw them. I don't give a damn about their arbitrary decisions as to what the game of "Golf" is. I already KNOW what it is, regardless of what they say.

Golf means you don't use a cheater line because you're not allowed to mark your way to the hole. Golf also means that you use whatever fricking club and whatever fricking stroke will get the ball in the hole in the fewest strokes. That's the way it's been since the 1400s, and we don't need these meddling megalomaniacs to tell us what the game is or isn't. Frankly, at this point, most of their decisions are dead flat wrong, and contrary to the spirit of the game. They're almost like Kostanza on Seinfeld - we'd be better served by following the OPPOSITE of what their instincts tell them.
07.24.2012 | Unregistered CommenterShivas

PostPost a New Comment

Enter your information below to add a new comment.

My response is on my own website »
Author Email (optional):
Author URL (optional):
Post:
 
All HTML will be escaped. Hyperlinks will be created for URLs automatically.