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Thursday
Oct172013

Australia On The PGA Championship: Count Us Interested

Brad Elborough reports on the PGA of Australia's Brian Thorburn optimistically putting his organization forward as willing to talk about an international PGA Championships.

He's already planning to meet with PGA CEO Bevacqua in the next six weeks.

''Absolutely (we'd love to host the event in Australia),'' Thorburn said. ''We'll engage in discussions with them and put our best foot forward.

''We have the infrastructure here; we've hosted the Presidents Cup and the World Cup.

''And players love playing here. We currently have Dustin Johnson and Bo Van Pelt at the Perth International; Peter Fowler is in Queensland and Rory McIlroy will be in Sydney for the Australian Open.''

Thorburn said state government funding would be required for such an event to go ahead.

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I guess he meant Rickie. Though at least Peter won a tournament in 2013...so probably he's the more "on form" Fowler in pro golf!
10.17.2013 | Unregistered CommenterFT
Peter Fowler? Is he kin to Rickie?
10.17.2013 | Unregistered CommenterFWIW
Peter Fowler is the better golfer
10.17.2013 | Unregistered CommenterCK
PGA of America is pretty smart here. This already seems to be gaining momentum.
10.17.2013 | Unregistered CommenterTerryMalloy
Even Bo Van Pelt commands an appearance fee these days huh?!?

Wonder how it compares to Rory's?

Let's be honest, all the guys mentioned in Thorburn's quote are there on a cash grab and many of Australia's best players are skipping those events as recently illustrated in this GS post:

http://www.geoffshackelford.com/homepage/2013/9/24/adam-scott-apologizes-to-aussies-for-new-calendar-year-sched.html
10.17.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
IMHO, the best two are the "no cup is safe" and the ESPN one. Honorable mention to the mastercard ones. How are the "while we're young" ones not on there?
10.17.2013 | Unregistered CommenterThe O
Why on earth would it need state government support? A major championship would be a rare golf tournament in Australia that should be commercially viable. I hope the premiers tell Thorburn where to go.
10.17.2013 | Unregistered CommenterChris
Chris, it would "need state government support" because the combination of ticket sales and corporate sponsorship wouldn't be enough to underpin the event in the very profitable manner to which the PGA of America is accustomed...

...if there's one thing we know for certain about organizations like the USGA, PGA Tour, PGA of America, etc, it is...

...it's, all, about, the benjamins.
10.17.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
Chris, it would "need state government support" because the combination of ticket sales and corporate sponsorship wouldn't be enough to underpin the event in the very profitable manner to which the PGA of America is accustomed...

...if there's one thing we know for certain about organizations like the USGA, PGA Tour, PGA of America, etc, it is...

...it's, all, about, the benjamins.
10.17.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
One reason this would be a very smart move by the PGA is that it could mean 4 nights of prime-time golf. 8pm - 11pm in the East is 11 am - 2pm in Melbourne. The final day would be on air Saturday night, so they could even go until midnight or 1am EST, 3pm or 4pm there. The extra ad $$ buys a lot of 747 charter hours to get the balance of the field there.
10.17.2013 | Unregistered CommenterFXF
DTF, good luck selling that business case to any of the state governments. It is one thing to support a tournament to make the thing happen; another altogether to make a seven or eight figure donation straight to the bottom line of a foreign organisation.
10.17.2013 | Unregistered CommenterChris
Wonder if the PGA of Australia will have it's championship in the USA?
10.17.2013 | Unregistered CommenterRES
"players love playing here" in the same sentance with "Bo Van Pelt" really tells us all we need to know.
10.17.2013 | Unregistered CommenterGS Elevator
RES, it would get a better field in America.
10.17.2013 | Unregistered CommenterChris
Chris, if you believe that how do you explain the multi-million dollar appearance fees the Australian government has already paid to Tiger in prior years? Tiger certainly qualifies as a "foreign organisation" and those dollars definitely went straight to the bottom line!
10.17.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
I vote for Cabo
10.17.2013 | Unregistered CommenterPaboy
Although I think this is a strange idea, I am certainly not against it. If they go to Australia, the course had better be Royal Melbourne.
A top 10 masterpiece!
Note to Royal Melbourne members: the one stipulation being that if they call you and ask, you accept with no course modifications. Nobody named Fazio or Jones will be allowed within 500 meters of the course. I would begin work on the restraining order immediately!
10.17.2013 | Unregistered CommenterKG
DTF, to clarify, it was the Victorian (2009 and 2010) and New South Wales Governments (2011), not the Australian Government. And in both cases if the state governments hadn't chipped in, Tiger wouldn't have come because there was no private sector interest in paying the whole appearance fee.

You should also bear in mind that Tiger's half-taxpayer funded appearance fee was very controversial in Victoria, and the opposition (now government) went to the next election promising that they would end a multi-million dollar handout to the world's highest paid sportsman at the expense of jobs for ordinary Victorians.
10.17.2013 | Unregistered CommenterChris
Excellent post Chris. While I do remember the Victoria pol's in 2009 suggesting they got their money's worth and then some out of the appearance fee paid, I do also remember it becoming a sizable albatross later on. As such, since (i) it appears the private sector isn't interested in underwriting bigtime golf, and (ii) the political climate doesn't allow for a state or national subsidy to be paid to the PGA of America, (iii) I don't think they will take their Championship to Oz. JMO.
10.17.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
Agree with your three points DTF. Tiger's appearance delivered many multiples of the government investment, but we had a government which wasn't very good at explaining this.
10.17.2013 | Unregistered CommenterChris
If it was "all about the benjamins", all four majors would be played in the Arabian Gulf.

For bumpkins that can't grasp that, they need to get out and travel a bit.

For what Abu Dhabi bankrolls F1, they could bankroll all four championships ... easily.

Per capital income in The Gulf states vs the USA? It isn't a fair fight.
10.17.2013 | Unregistered CommenterAbu Dhabi Golfer
The R&A and Augusta National aren't on the benjamin list I put forth.

The USGA has amassed a $300,000,000 slush fund, just might be some Abu Dhabi funds in there.

Question is, does "the Arabian Gulf" have any interest in hosting a PGA Championship? Being able to afford/buy it, and wanting it, are two completely different things...
10.17.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
You simply have no understanding of the Gulf and why they would want a major.

If offered, Abu Dhabi or Qatar would buy the PGA Championship. Yesterday. And at a price that would make the PGA of America blush.

I'll see your hundreds of millions and raise it to billions. Abu Dhabi spend $2 billion on infrastructure just to hold an annual F1 race with about 3 hours of primetime television total. $1.3 billion was spend on the race track itself. Qatar's infrastructure for the 2022 World Cup is expected to cost $220 billion.

It's time to buy that plane ticket, bumpkin.
10.17.2013 | Unregistered CommenterAbu Dhabi Golfer
Who are you calling a bumpkin?

My question to you was is there definitive interest in "the Gulf" for bringing/buying in the PGA Championship?

"Abu Dhabi spend $2 billion on infrastructure just to hold an annual F1 race with about 3 hours of primetime television total. $1.3 billion was spend on the race track itself."

Is this a wise use of funds?
10.17.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
Oh wait, I get it, that's the kind of cash you have to throw around to transform a shithole into something halfway presentable. Gotcha.

You're right, I'm wrong, even the PGA of America isn't greedy enough to take their stellar event to a shithole like that for a few extra benjamins....you got me.
10.17.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
Abu Dhabi Golfer,

Since you put it that way, why not suggest that AD sponsor the long-delayed Shack Cup? Surely the payoff from having the likes of DTF, KLG, RickABQ, tlavin, ben seattle, digsouth, c&c, Melwyn and the rest of us singing the praises of golf in the Gulf would be priceless.
10.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterFXF
Maybe they could play it on one of the Palm Islands,
or Tigers course
our the "world"

Oh yeah, they're spending as wisely as our government does
10.21.2013 | Unregistered CommenterOkay

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