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Sunday
Oct202013

Did Tiger Watch The Oscillating Ball Replay?

Robert Lusetich analyzes how, with his latest column calling Tiger "cavalier with the rules, Brandel Chamblee "has met Woods’ fire with fire, which has turned him into a sort of Skip Bayless caricature, taking cheap shots.
 None cheaper than his latest."

More interesting to me though was this at the end of the piece, where Lusetich suggests Woods' final rules rumpus of the year in Chicago never included him actually watching a replay of the ball move.

To the naked eye, it wasn’t clear Woods’ ball moved when he was trying to move that twig on the first hole at Conway Farms. In Super slow-mo HD, however, the ball is seen to move.

It’s reasonable to believe Woods thought it merely oscillated. His reaction, however, wasn’t reasonable.

According to someone who was in the scoring trailer, Woods unleashed a verbal volley of foul language at rules official Slugger White when informed he’d been assessed a two-shot penalty.

White tried to show Woods a video of the incident, but he wasn’t in the mood to watch anything.
If he had paid attention, he’d have seen White was right. But Woods refuses to be wrong sometimes, so he stormed off.

What it proves is that he can certainly be a petulant child at times.

Be careful Robert, revelations like that will get you called to testify!

At the time, Woods said: "They replayed it again and again and again. And I felt the same way."

This trial is going to be so much fun!

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Somebody's lying about what happened in the scoring area. The plot is thickening up nicely.
10.21.2013 | Unregistered Commenterjohnnnycz
Can't believe Tiger or any other pro would accept (willingly or unwillingly) a 2-shot penalty without watching it on replay if that was the evidence they had. Unless, perhaps, if he knew it moved already. As Johnny says, the plot thickens.
10.21.2013 | Unregistered CommenterRickABQ
It's hearsay, Lusetich is safe :) (now the others in the scoring trailer.......)

And I think Tiger was told he was getting a 2 shot penalty, I think accepted is to strong a word choice
10.21.2013 | Unregistered Commenterelf
Chamblee some sort of "Skip Bayless caricature". Accurate and has to sting.
Do we need to call a Congressional hearing on this and make everyone testify under oath?
10.21.2013 | Unregistered CommenterBH
Warren Commission, here we go. Was the videographer hiding behind a grassy Knoll hole before he started his stealthy snooping? Is the Breck Girl a closet commie? Is he suffering hairspray toxicity? Oh, the humanity. When can we get Oliver Stone on the job?

Seriously, if this doesn't prove that Tiger is the only compelling figure in the pro game, nothing will.
10.21.2013 | Unregistered Commentertlavin
@elf -

I think Tiger signed for the higher score, didn't he? I believe then that the term unwilling acceptance is correct. I got turned down for a $5MM NSF grant proposal a couple of months ago - I didn't like it, but I was told that I wasn't getting the money and so I unwillingly and unhappily accepted the result. This is the way life goes.

I said at the time Tiger should have refused to sign the card for the higher score and make them DQ him, if he truly believed that he didn't deserve it. He didn't.
10.21.2013 | Unregistered CommenterRickABQ
Well, Oliver Stone and Tiger Woods do deserve each other. Who really planted that fire hydrant? As for the new Warren Commission, count me in if it's the Scalia Commission. Orville Reddenbacher never made enough popcorn for that much entertainment.
10.21.2013 | Unregistered CommenterKLG
It's nonsense to suggest that movement wasn't apparent "to the naked eye." Says who? Tiger? It moved and he stopped his manicuring immediately. He knew it moved. His reaction to the penalty was symptomatic of somebody caught red handed.
10.21.2013 | Unregistered CommenterLip Out
This is the critical junction of our story, isn't it, lip? There are only two possible reasons Tiger stopped touching the twigs. Firstly, as you say, he knew he'd moved the ball. The second one is that the ball oscillated and he thought that by further fiddling, he might cause it to move. Only one person knows the real answer. As for why he wouldn't watch the replays, I bet he did but not very closely given his state of mind. As for Brandel, he's obviously decided that he being (in)famous is good for business. Like Skip with King James. I at least hope he actually believes it.
10.21.2013 | Unregistered CommenterAK47
Where was that camera stationed?

If it moved even the slightest amount during the course of the video it would be impossible to determine whether the ball moved or not. Was a cameraman holding that camera? Blimp shot? Wind blown mounted camera?

Brandel better hope that 4th grade math test story is true or he is done! Where did that take place?
10.21.2013 | Unregistered CommenterM.C. Boone
Where was that camera stationed?

If it moved even the slightest amount during the course of the video it would be impossible to determine whether the ball moved or not. Was a cameraman holding that camera? Blimp shot? Wind blown mounted camera?

Brandel better hope that 4th grade math test story is true or he is finished! Where did that take place?
10.21.2013 | Unregistered CommenterM.C. Boone
Tiger gave himself the benefit of the doubt and got caught. Most of us have been there in a friendly game. Playing in a tournament and or for money means rules are rules. Brandel is just saying what many believe including myself. I give him more credit for golf integrity than Tiger hands down.
10.21.2013 | Unregistered CommenterAlex
Play the ball as it lies.Stop moving twigs to improve your lie. I thought the whole oscillation rule only applied to the ball moving on the green. Because it should otherwise the ball moves and cannot oscillate.

And this word should not even be used when applying this rule. The ball moves it does not oscillate.
10.21.2013 | Unregistered Commentervwgolfer
Now I want a tell-all from Slugger White. Those are his memories too!
10.21.2013 | Unregistered CommenterReverse Eagle
"It's nonsense to suggest that movement wasn't apparent "to the naked eye." Says who? Tiger? It moved and he stopped his manicuring immediately. He knew it moved."

Yes, the ball moved. That's why he stopped. But the ball is allowed to move, as long as it returns to its original position. So simply saying he knew it moved is irrelevant. And having seen both the full speed and super-slo-mo-high-def-monster-zoom-replay, it's only when you've seen the latter that it becomes so "obvious" that the ball did not return to its original position.

Rules of Golf, definition of "move or moved": "A ball is deemed to have “moved’’ if it leaves its position and comes to rest in any other place." In other words, if it leaves its position and comes to rest in the same place, it hasn't "moved." It's a fiction -- the ball has clearly moved, but it's not deemed to have "moved" under the rules. Again, Tiger clearly knew that his housekeeping made the ball move, so he stopped -- his argument is that from his vantage point he believed the ball returned to its original position. And I would say none of us here could possibly say that he's lying.
10.21.2013 | Unregistered CommenterJeff
phew is insane. get help loser.
I don't believe for one second that Tiger would be profanity, cruel or dishonest. When has he every done that kinda thing before? Name me one time? I though not.

Excuse me, I have a call from someone named Elin.

Barry says "What up nerd-izzels?"
10.21.2013 | Unregistered CommenterMichelle O
I'm surprised Slugger White took the profanity. While Chairman of the rules committee at a US Am. qualifier, I was confronted at the scorer's table by a put out player who had earlier been assessed a slow play penalty. As he got more wound up and more crude, he used the term pr_ _ k which was just a step too far. I explained that to him and, as gently as possible, told him he was DQ'd. I sqribbled "DQ" across the face of his card and let him watch me put DQ beside his name on the scoring sheet and then drop his card into the trash can. He was not happy. Of course this is easier for one who has 6" and 50 pounds on the complainer. Maybe Slugger didn't feel as confident of his position as I.
10.21.2013 | Unregistered CommenterShort Fuse
You rock, Short (not, apparently)!
10.21.2013 | Unregistered CommenterPasaplayer
Down, and to the left,

The Ball moved down, and to the left.
Slugger DQ Tiger because of profanity!? Yea and Slugger would "let" tiger watch him scribble DQ on his score card. My future visitations to the comments pages on this site may just be limited to days surrounding a full moon.
10.21.2013 | Unregistered CommenterCarter Redbush
Will someone please help the poster "Michelle O" realize that they are not amusing to anyone but themselves?
10.21.2013 | Unregistered CommenterPete the Luddite
Thanks, Pete. Couldn't have said it better.
10.21.2013 | Unregistered CommenterPasaplayer
Ditto Pete and Pasa...
10.21.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
Ouch! Almost left a mark...
10.21.2013 | Unregistered CommenterPasaplayer
I'm still much more bothered by Tiger's getting the gallery to move a boulder than by his assertion that he thought the ball oscillated. The former was a blatant attempt to give himself an advantage that contravened the spirit if not the letter of the rule.

As far as Oscillagate, I have no doubt that he saw the ball move minutely as he attempted to move a twig, but I think he stopped the act immediately. From his vantage point, I think he could easily believe that the ball's position was unchanged from its original one.
10.22.2013 | Unregistered Commenter3foot1

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