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Friday
May192017

Trinity Forest Deep Dive And The Nelson Going Forward

It might seem rude to be looking ahead to the Byron Nelson's move from TPC Las Colinas/Four Seasons, but it's a course not loved by players. With a Coore and Crenshaw project that has reclaimed rolling, rumpled land, Trinity Forest has the potential to raise the architecture bar in the Dallas area.

More importantly, the 2018 Nelson could be a test run for bigger things, with the USGA having paid visits and the club thought to have major championship aspirations. With AT&T's golf-living bigwigs backing the project, don't be surprised if the Nelson is short-lived there and we see the PGA of America and USGA jockey for something bigger.

Anyway, Jonathan Wall at PGATour.com has done a wonderful deep dive piece into the project and has more details on the architectural elements than previous pieces. As always, please hit the link but here's a teaser:

Instead of attempting to alter the contours, Coore and Crenshaw embraced the character flaws and built Trinity Forest around the gentle rises and falls in the land, along with the native grasses and rolling, rumpled sand that are hallmarks of the design.

"The set of circumstances are we let the holes fall where they are," Crenshaw said. "The character of the topography of the ground dictates what the end result will be, and we are very traditional in that regard. We've borrowed ideas from the old architects such as Donald Ross, [A.W.] Tillinghast and Perry Maxwell, and they all basically have the same interwoven philosophies in that the holes must fit the ground.

"Perry Maxwell had some fascinating statements about that. He said, if you take a piece of land and tie it into a natural theme, your golf course will be different than anyone else's. I always thought that was a fascinating statement. So wherever we go, we try as hard as we can to not alter the land so much."

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Hopefully, the LPGA will also find their way over to Trinity???..not sure what a playoff would look like at the new venue, but have to be a better show than Las Colinas....
05.19.2017 | Unregistered CommenterPrairie Golfer
PGA expected to announce Southern Hills getting both a PGA and SR PGA on May 30. So maybe Trinity will take over as the USGA southern/plains course.
05.19.2017 | Unregistered CommenterJordan
I am looking forward to seeing Trinity Forest next year. It's good to see some attention for southeast Dallas.
05.19.2017 | Unregistered CommenterRandom Fan
The Byron Nelson will be a short lived affair at Trinity Forest GC. After visiting the facility I hold the opinion that the gallery attendance will suffer. Having been to many dozens of tournaments, I feel that the Trinity Course is a very poor tournament venue. The head of grounds told me that if the local Trinity floods that the river can take away portions of the course from play. A nearby landfill in use is visible from the course and the stench wafts over you. One can see the dump trucks depositing trash from the course.
05.19.2017 | Unregistered CommenterBrian Haskell
I love the smell of stench in the morning. The smell, you know that garbage smell, the whole golf course. Smelled like.......PGAT.
05.19.2017 | Unregistered CommenterD. maculata
Reminds me of Mt. Gate, here in So. Cal. Built on landfill, smelt bad - draining off methane gas, kept sinking for years.
05.19.2017 | Unregistered CommenterTLB
Good article by Jonathan Wall:
"However, there are holes on the property that feature more significant rises and falls where loads of dirt had to be piled up sometimes as high as 12 to 15 feet to create the dramatic bunkering that appears all over the course."
From Crenshaw:
"We've borrowed ideas from the old architects such as Donald Ross, [A.W.] Tillinghast and Perry Maxwell, and they all basically have the same interwoven philosophies in that the holes must fit the ground."
Not sure that any of the mentioned architects moved that much earth with their horses and carts.
@Colin
My reaction, too. In fact, there isn't a trace of anything natural about it. A layer of soil on top of the whole property and tons more hauled trucked in...drainage artificial...all native trees removed (having "Forest" in the name seems strange), new fauna brought in.
All these things are in the story and good on the writer for that. But it essentially was a salute to technology, money and influence. And Ben Crenshaw, of course.
With that, it's neat that there was a demand for this.
05.19.2017 | Unregistered CommenterBobo
Some wild greens there!!
05.20.2017 | Unregistered CommenterChicago pt
I loved playing Trinity and it is one of my favorite C&C designs. The holes are fun yet challenging and some of the green complexes are the most outrageous in terms of design and ridges I have seen. There is no garbage smell and for the amount of reclamation and earth moving they probably had to do the routing feels really natural and I loved every minute of playing that course.

I do agree somewhat that there may be some holes that aren't the best for spectators and I have no idea how they are going to handle the parking as the course sits off a small access road on a divided roadway but I am sure they will think of something for these issues as the owners are VERY motivated about bringing a championship to that course.

I am a huge fan of the course and can't wait to see how it holds up to tournament play!
05.20.2017 | Unregistered CommenterReGripped
How is the weather in Dallas in mid June and mid August?
05.20.2017 | Unregistered CommenterEmmmm
Pencil this one in for the PGA in '23 with Oak Hill looking to trade it for a Ryder Cup in '28 for one last hurrah. May in Rochester is not gonna work and fits nicely into Tour schedule for Dallas.
05.20.2017 | Unregistered CommenterMay PGA
I've been there a few times and thought it a terrific course. Those guys don't do anything else.
05.20.2017 | Unregistered CommenterMike Clayton
Dallas weather mid June and August?

hot hot hot in June

extra hot hot hot in August - just miserable
May PGA, are you saying the PGA will change the date of the championship to May? If so, sounds like a great venue. Just don't believe it would be a well addended tournament in mid August on a tree less golf course.
05.20.2017 | Unregistered CommenterEmmmm
TGOPM should have added "and humid". I should have added sinking "and stinking" for years (at Mt. Gate). Maybe Trinity Forrest has already compacted over the years, but adding a lot of dirt on top could add to it in the future.
05.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterTLB
remind me to move away from Dallas starting now till October, I'm not a smart man.

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