Does Tiger Really Need The Tour?
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It’s back!
Twenty years later Tatra Press has kindly allowed me to bring back Grounds For Golf now that golf architecture is of more interest to the masses. A new Introduction looks at what’s driven the interest growth and two new chapters I had a blast adding (plus a few edits to keep things up-to-date).
The Amazon purchase page for the book arriving June 15, 2026.
My latest Golfobserver.com column is now posted.
Nice questions and slow play rant from Nick Price during an early week conference call to kick off his Champions Tour debut.
Q. One last question, with respect to pace of play, which I know you've always felt strongly about, it's certainly showing no signs of abating. What are your thoughts about it?
NICK PRICE: Fines. Fines. Fine them. Penalties, two-shot penalties, a fine. A warning, a fine and then a penalty. That's the only way they're going to stop it. I don't know how they're going to enforce it, but the only time any guy is going to pay attention is when you penalize him for slow play because it's such a disease, and there is no way on this earth that three professional golfers should take more than 4:15, 4:20, to play 18 holes of golf.
Q. You'll find on the Champions Tour we play quickly.
NICK PRICE: That's what I'm looking forward to, threesomes. McNulty has given me the heads up there because that was one of the first questions I asked him, what's the pace of play like. I think most of the guys out here, we learned a long time ago that the longer you take, the worse it gets.
Q. The players have somewhat of a responsibility. Obviously average golfers look to the pros and see that as an example.
NICK PRICE: It's terrible. It's terrible. The problem is that there's only maybe a handful of slow players certainly on the PGA TOUR who make everyone else's lives a misery. There's maybe 12 or 15 or 20 guys who are slow players, and they just slow down the rest of us. A fast player has to play at the pace of a slow player; a slow player doesn't have to play at the pace of a fast player. That's what's so one-sided.
Anyone who's played rapidly or doesn't mess about on the golf course, there's nothing more frustrating than playing with a guy who pulls the same club out three times, then puts his glove on, then looks at the yardage again, throws the grass up, asks his caddie 15 questions and then suddenly decides to hit it. You know, there's nothing worse, and those guys should be fined.
Q. What was your strategy for combating it or dealing with it?
NICK PRICE: I just used to put my mind in neutral. You had to. You had to. You had to learn to deal with it. If you're playing with someone who was really slow, then I would walk slowly, as well, up to my ball so I wouldn't have to wait around at my ball while he was fiddling around getting ready to hit.
So I'd sort of walk around 20, 30 yards away from my ball and then get to my ball just as he hits, so I could go through my same time zone. So you learn as the years go by how to deal with it. There's nothing more selfish than a slow golfer.
No Tiger, but Mickelson signs up unexpectedly and it looks like 8 of the top 10, 15 of the top 20, and 36 of the top 50 in the world. Finally a 2007 PGA Tour field better than the Euro Tour.
From Brett Avery's PGATour.com AT&T blog:
2:55 p.m.
Are you supposed to be here?
Here's something from that last rain burst. Michael Bamberger of Sports Illustrated -- he's the writer involved in the Michelle Wie drop brouhaha last year -- walks up to the fourth tee trailing Murray. Murray is not pleased.
"Who are you?" Murray demands as partner Scott Simpson stands over his teed ball.
Bamberger looks as if he's trying to gauge Murray's comedic temperature. "I'm a writer with Sports Illustrated," Bamberger says.
"Are you allowed in here? Shouldn't you be outside the ropes?"
By now he's fingering Bamberger's credentials, hanging around his neck on a lanyard. Murray is not convinced.
"Yes," Bamberger says, looking around as if sensing a security guard is about to grab him by the collar.
"How long have you been following me?" Murray demands.
"Two days."
Murray waits two beats and turns as Jeff Sluman hits his drive. "You don't know what it's like to have the blood sucked out of you."
Jack Vickers didn't say much with Tim Finchem at his side, but he opened up to Woody Paige:
Vickers secured a big-time international sponsor.
The PGA Tour "claims I didn't have a sponsor for the $10 million tournament, but damn right I did."
He is telling the truth. I knew about the deal last year. He was taking a mighty gamble, but Vickers was willing.
He had originated the first seven-figure tournament. He would originate the first eight-figure tournament.
Three times Vickers went to Finchem and the PGA Tour, "three times I didn't get an answer. They didn't say no. They just didn't say anything," Vickers said.
The PGA Tour stalled Vickers out of the way. That's because the PGA Tour was secretly working on its FedExCup, a year-end series of tournaments and point systems that would crown a tour champion and award $10 million.
"They didn't want me to overshadow what they were doing," a resigned Vickers says now.
I watched five minutes of the Crosby AT&T today. Between the blinding white bunker sand (thanks Arnold) and Kenny G talking to the camera, I just couldn't take it. And that was before the traditional blimp shot showing the 9th and reminding me of what a simple, elegant and strategically sound hole Chandler Egan created.
Notice how simple the strategy is. You play right and flirt with the ocean, you open up the better angle of attack. You play left, you have to come over that massive greenside bunker. This isn't rocket surgery, and yet...no one builds 'em like this anymore.
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No. 9 sketch by Joe Mayo![]()
No. 9 at Pebble Beach circa 1929 (click to enlarge)
I listened in the working portion of the Tim Finchem-Jack Vickers conference call and boy was it a downer...and I never even had one of those milkshakes everyone raves about.
While it was all a bit murky as to exactly why this happened, the most revealing comments came from Vickers:
But all of the sudden here, we're into an era that the marketplace out there is not the same, and I think it's been influenced by some phenomena in that we have one outstanding, unbelievable player in the form of Tiger Woods today, and when he's playing, the ratings are great, and when he isn't playing, the ratings aren't so hot.
So when we go to talk to these contacts, and we have a ton of them, we've got plenty of contacts to get sponsors. But, they call their advertising people in and the next thing we know, we're talking about ratings and that makes it tough. Right now we're just in one of those dips. That will change and I think we'll get things worked out looking down the line.
And during the Q&A:
I feel a little bit today that we didn't, as I said without being repetitious, the timing here on behalf of both of us was tough to deal with. But on the other side, and moving forward on a basis that we didn't feel made much business sense and we're really going to get us in trouble if we didn't take a deep breath and try and regroup. And so I feel that we have to do that.
I'd be honest to say that off the record here, we were just talking with Tim, he's got some problems to resolve, I've got some problems to resolve, and those are going to take some time to do. But they will be handled and they will be mended back together and we'll have this thing back flying again. But it's going to take some doing.
Hmmm...
I'm disappointed, and it hurts to see this happen all of a sudden because we really thought even down to the last minute we might get it fixed. But it's a different world out there right now. I've never seen it in my 21 years like it is right now.
On the USGA blog, Marty Parkes offers a final thought on the annual meeting by citing Jim Vernon's speech on the groove study. Vernon said:
"Our exhaustive research work on grooves is an example of this. We now clearly understand both how grooves function and why they have had an effect on how the game is played. Our work doesn’t end with grooves. We need to understand how all modern golf equipment technology affects the game. Once we have this type of full understanding of causes and effects, sound decisions can be made to change - or not change - equipment rules."The USGA has added a comments section to their blog (over-under on it coming down: February 28). This was interesting from Charles D. Brown:
A big reason why there are so many doubters on the issue of the USGA's equipment regulation is that so little information has been shared.
Driver-distance increases may have flattened in recent years, if one carefully selects the right years in which to survey. The simple fact is that distances have increased substantially since the Joint Statement of Prinicples by the USGA and R&A essentially declared that ANY FURTHER INCREASES IN DISTANCE WOULD BE UNDESIRABLE.
The stock USGA answer to critics (and the critics are not just pajama-clad web trolls, but include Jack Nicklaus, Greg Norman, Ben Crenshaw, Frank Hannigan, Slugger White, Tom Doak and Geoff Shackelford, to name just a very few) has been, 'They don't have the data that we, the USGA, do.'
So how it it that the 'exhaustive research' on grooves is now complete, but the three- or four-year-old study on golf ball performance is incomplete and unpublished?
Ouch.
According to the USGA's 2005 annual report, the ball study started in 2002:
This study, which was begun in 2002, is a wide-ranging investigation into golf ball design, construction, materials and performance.
We have a grooves study, but no ball study three years later and significant distance increases since 2002.
...hopefully forgotten about?
Mike Stachura reports that the USGA has issued a final report similar to their preliminary report from August, but still no mention of the ball study from 2002. Here's what Stachura says:
The final report does not include any proposal for a rule change, but it does seem to indicate a fundamental change from the USGA's position on grooves 20 years ago. At that time (during the so-called "square grooves" debate), Stuart Bloch, then chairman of the USGA's Implements and Ball Committee, actually termed any differences between U-grooves and V-grooves "inconsequential."
This next part comes after Dick Rugge is quoted as saying that the USGA has better testing procedures...
Rugge did not provide any specific timetable for a rule-change proposal or even suggest that there would be a change at all. But he did suggest that a meeting with Arnold Palmer several years ago prompted him and his staff to research the issue further.
"When Arnold Palmer came to our building and shook his finger at me and said, 'Allowing U grooves was the biggest mistake we ever made,' it did make me want to take a look at that issue."
Arnold, could you go back and shake your finger at Dick and tell him your thoughts on the golf ball going too far?
According to a USGA study of amateur players at the Walt Disney World Palm and Eagle Pines golf courses, only 13.1 percent hit the green from shots out of the rough from 100 to 200 yards. The PGA Tour average for similar shots is 49 percent. Also, because the urethane-covered ball used by tour players spins much more out of the rough than the typical ionomer-covered ball (like those with Surlyn covers) preferred by most average golfers (more than two-thirds, based on a study of recent Golf Datatech industry sales figures), average golfers don't often use the equipment that can generate the most spin.
"It's a way of addressing the problem where the problem shows up and not affecting anybody else," says Rugge.
Translation: this way we can keep harvesting rough and offering 22 yard landing areas to discourage distance for tournament play while ignoring the issue we don't really want to deal with because it would require us to admit we botched this one big time!
The USGA selects Sahallee to host the 2010 U.S. Senior Open.
Didn't the PGA of America back out of 2010 in Seattle with concerns about the Vancouver Winter Olympics disrupting corporate sales?
Well, good thing their old pal Herb Kohler just happened to be ready and willing to step in with Whistling Straits!
I don't know about you, but I'm getting a little tired of hearing players complain about Denver's altitude messing with their games. From Anthony Cotton's story on the International's demise:
Also, PGA players have long spoken of the difficultly (SP) in adjusting to a golf ball traveling farther in Colorado's thin air, which then plays havoc with their games when they return to sea-level events.
A nice reminder of how Pebble Beach's 17th looked after Chandler Egan's 1928 renovation and before years of flying bunker sand reduced the size of the green:![]()
The 17th at Pebble Beach, circa 1929 (click on image to enlarge)
P.S. - the yacht in the background belonged to Howard Hughes.
Golf World's John Strege reports on the new Tour event site in Fresno, which needs to be ready by October. Looks ready to me based on this Fresno Bee photo:

From Geoff Ogilvy's WGC Match Play defending champion press conference:
Q. Is there such thing as a good match play course? And if so, what elements go into making a good match play course?
GEOFF OGILVY: I guess there probably are good courses for match play courses. Four par 5s that people can get to. If there's holes that people have to make decisions, it's going to a good match play course because there might be a guy who might want to lay it up on a par 5, and if his opponent has pulled a 3-wood and hits it on the green then he has to go for the green. I mean that sort of stuff; it's interesting, whereas if it's just an obvious everyone lays it up and everyone hits the same shots all day, then it's not going to create the excitement and the decisions.
The funnest part about golf is watching us struggle with the decision whether to go over the water or not go over the water, should I go for it or not go for it, then go for it. That's the funnest part about watching golf, isn't it? If you've got four par 5s that you can reach and two par 4s that you can drive it on, then you've got decisions. It's nice to have a few holes like that, but this one you're going to have more holes like that I'd suggest. Whenever you have golfers making decisions they don't want to make, golf is a better game to watch.
For those of you attending the show, I'll be signing Lines of Charm and other books on February 22, from 1:30 to 3 in the bookstore. More details are available here.
Come on by!
Geoff Shackelford is a Senior Writer for Golfweek magazine, a weekly contributor to Golf Channel's Morning
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