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Monday
Aug252008

Brand Lady: Learn English Or It's Sayonara!

This story has the potential to explode into one of those Jimmy The Greek, Ben Wright-style clashes where the PC police take on the perpetrator, in this case, the LPGA Tour. Frankly, I might actually not blame the PC police on this one. Beth Ann Baldry reports:

At a mandatory South Korean player meeting Aug. 20 at the Safeway Classic, the tour informed its largest international contingent that beginning in 2009, all players who have been on tour for two years must pass an oral evaluation of their English skills. Failure would result in a suspended membership.
“Hopefully what we’re talking about is something that will not happen,” said Libba Galloway, the tour’s deputy commissioner, of possible suspensions. “If it does, we wouldn’t just say, ‘Come back next year.’ What we would do is work with them on where they fell short, provide them the resources they need, the tutoring . . . and when we feel like they need to be evaluated again, we would evaluate.”
Galloway said the policy takes effect immediately, but the “measurement time will be at the end of 2009.” There are 121 international players from 26 countries on tour; 45 are South Koreans.
Hilary Lunke, president of the Player Executive Committee, said much of this initiative stems from the importance of being able to entertain pro-am partners. Players already are fined if the LPGA receives complaints from their pro-am partners. Now the tour is taking it one step further.
“The bottom line is, we don’t have a job if we don’t entertain,” Lunke said. “In my mind, that’s as big a part of the job as shooting under par.”

Okay, so they learn some rudimentary English, which actually gives them a leg up on the Commissioner.

Is the pro-am conversation really going to get beyond "good shot" and "left edge" and "nice meeting you"? Unbelievable.

This, is going to get ugly.

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Reader Comments (23)

"Carolyn, there's a Mr. Alvin Dark for you on line 2..."
08.25.2008 | Unregistered CommenterNRH
I know a girl that speakes perfect english but plays off 18 will the LPGA help her?
08.26.2008 | Unregistered Commenterkeith86
Call me a cynic, but isn't this just an attempt by American players to protect "their" tour, given the growing domination of international players (particularly Korean)? The pro-am justification is bizarre to say the least.
08.26.2008 | Unregistered CommenterAlan McDermaid
I understand that The R&A is so excited about this that they are now going to disqualify any American Player who uses the term "British Open" and that before Tiger may return to play in the Open he will be required to take a course in the "King's English."
08.26.2008 | Unregistered CommenterPhil the Author
We can only hope this gets ugly...this is the "entertainment" Hillary...you don't have to learn English to hit a knock down or make a 20 footer...what a joke.
08.26.2008 | Unregistered CommenterB.I.G.
The premise for assisting players to learn better English ... to improve communication skills...is a good one. To attach penalties or negative elements make no sense at all. If the goal is to help players, why threaten them with suspension. Seems like the zeal for international players may be fading now that so many are dominating the LPGA leader board.
08.26.2008 | Unregistered CommenterSir Real
So many questions...
- Did Brian Watts and Todd Hamilton get kicked off the Japanes Tour for not speaking Japanese?
- Does peppering your English with 2,5 "you know"s and 3,8 "like"s per sentence count as good PR towards Pro-Am partners?
- Does anyone understand Carolyn Bivens?
08.26.2008 | Unregistered CommenterHawkeye
well what's more difficult, a)playing competative golf well enought to have to give interviews OR b)learning to speak conversational english?

BTW i don't think marketing and promotional interest, (read advertisers) had anything to do with this - do you?

frankD
08.26.2008 | Unregistered Commenterfrank D
Helping them is a good idea............

Penalizing is just CRAZY.............
what's next, mandatory sexual reorientation camp?
08.26.2008 | Unregistered Commenterthusgone
This is not-too-thinly-veiled...um, for lack of a better term, racism...maybe "xenophobia" is less shocking? The sad truth, however, is that Americans want to see Americans do best in tournaments, and if not, they'll settle for European caucasians. That's why, when Inbee Park is winning at Interlachen, the telecast focus remains on Helen Alfredsson, Stacy Lewis, and Paula Creamer. Most Americans won't really care to watch Jeong Jang duel with Seon Hwa Lee on the back 9 on Sunday, mainly because they're too ignorant/lazy to tell the difference between the two of them. "Just another Korean..."

Bottom line: don't blame the LPGA tour as much as the fans.
08.26.2008 | Unregistered CommenterLEFTY
The LPGA is playing an event on Hainan Island, China in October. I guess Bivens along with the rest of the English-speaking players are polishing up their Mandarin, right, Carolyn???
08.26.2008 | Unregistered Commenterqbs
good thing this isn't going to happen on the PGA Tour, they'd have to kick out Boo Weekley!!
08.26.2008 | Unregistered Commentergary
I guess it depends on what the penalty is--what is meant by "suspended" membership?

If it's like the military and the "weight management program" they had when I was on active duty, enforcement can be made very flexible.

I wonder if this truly came from the commissioner, in response to a complaint from the corporate sponsors, or whether it came from the anglo players via some sort of players' committee grousing.

It might offend some people to picture an innocent, young, female asian athlete losing her "right" to play on the LPGA, especially when it's the, uh, less than seductively feminine commish lowering the boom. Fine. But let's be honest, the LPGA is a business. Nobody has any right to play on the tour. I doubt Bivens would risk alienating star players if there weren't a real perceived problem from the sponsor side. If they feel it's important that all players be able to be conversational in English, I have no problem with that. Professional sports are not pure competition and are surely part (all?) traveling show, after all.

Maybe anglo players make better TV, but I have alot of trouble believing Bivens would use this to try to elbow asian players out. How do they know it would be successful, even if this were the goal?

Now, I could certainly buy into the idea that there are some cranky, ticked off anglo pros who are looking for a way to make a backhand swipe at the asian invaders. And even if the tour's by laws give a players' committee the right to do something like this, I'd find it hard to believe it they could get a rule like this past Bivens.
08.26.2008 | Unregistered Commenter86general
I hope Ms Galloway is a good lawyer - because the first suspension is going to require the LPGA to have a REALLY good one.
08.26.2008 | Unregistered CommenterLPGAFAN
Is this even constitutional? Is speaking English integral to their job like it might be for say an airline pilot who has to speak to the tower?

I hope the French give all the players a French test before allowing them to play in the Evian.

Question: Does this mean that mutes are not allowed to compete on the LPGA tour?
08.26.2008 | Unregistered CommenterWayne
There are 45 Korean players on tour. There is no question that the lack of individual personalities amongst the foreign players is a marketing problem for the tour. If they can't speak English, how marketable can they be to American corporations who aren't really standing in line to sign up as tournament sponsors or marketing partners. How many tournament sponsors has the tour lost this year? The LPGA is a membership organization. They can demand these actions from their membership. Are constitutional issues involved when foreign nationals are the ones most affected by the ruling. Players graduating from Q School have two years to meet the requirement. How much time do they need?
08.26.2008 | Unregistered CommenterNick in CT
I assume the rule applied to people who were actual members of the LPGA tour, not just golfers who play one event here--in other words, I don't think the analogy about the Evian Masters is quite the same thing.

And again, it depends what they mean by "suspension." From reading the article, it sounds more like a threat than some sort of hard and fast, swift judgement, no tolerance rule.

We had a nice argument along these lines a few months back on drug testing--vis a vis whether it was proper or constitutional to demand something like this. Bottom line is that the LPGA is a private club and can do as it pleases. Many will feel it's a violation of their rights.

I don't have much sympathy for an athlete who willingly tries to gain membership to an American golf tour, and carps at a requirement to demonstrate a basic ability to speak English.
08.26.2008 | Unregistered Commenter86general
Seems completely and utterly ridiculous, but the "protect the sponsors" line does have some merit.

Perhaps.
08.26.2008 | Unregistered CommenterBill
Dear Ms Hilary Lunke
LPGA President of the Player Executive Committee

RE: the importance of being able to entertain pro-am partners.


Forget instituting an offical language spoken.

Chang the dress code instead .

May I suggest the Olympic Beach Volleyball team uniforms.

That worked wonders in getting NBC record rating in the 2am-5am EST time slot and was a big hit with those advertising sponsors.

If your going to set back equal rights for women - then go all the way baby !


frankD

PS i've attended enough HOOTERS "charity" golf tournament to know what i'm saying is valid. It didn't matter a wit to sponsors and supporters that some "participants" didn't speak a shread of english.
08.27.2008 | Unregistered CommenterfrankD
I wonder if they'll do random English tests. Nab a player after their round and force them to conjugate a verb.

To me this is simple: The LPGA does not like the Korean or other Asian players and this is one veiled way to show that dislike. Can quotas or an outright ban be far behind? The same resentment happened when Europeans came into the NHL.

If amateurs don't want Koreans in the pro-ams, then don't have them play. There must be enough dyed blonde American players they can round up for the day.
08.27.2008 | Unregistered CommenterWayne
This is the right thing to do. I applaud the LPGA.
08.27.2008 | Unregistered Commenterfrank
They say money can move mountains but this just seems ludicrous. I wonder who was the wise man who decided, that these players who practice a strict regimen of practice and strenuous workout sessions, these players who week in and week out play under the most intense pressure, these players who have to pass the mental and physical test to lay their hands on the trophy are show ponies there to entertain and not sportspersons out there to win.

I am pretty surprised by Se Ri Pak’s take on this stance but I think she is being politically correct. It is terribly unfair to tell these players, more important than winning a tournament is to know how to dot your i and cross your t.

It is a clear case of money making them talk. But these people must not lose sight of the fact that the game of golf is growing and expanding in a rapid manner across Asia. I will not be surprised if in a decade or two the Asian Tour becomes as rich as say the PGA Tour or at least the European Tour for sure. In that case, what would these very officials say if the Tour came out with a stipulation that said, these players must be fluent in Thai or Japanese before they think about getting a place in the field.

I can already see them laughing it off but it is not such a wild thought and I really hope they take back this proposed regulation because quite frankly it demeans a sportsperson.
08.28.2008 | Unregistered CommenterAndy Brown

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