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Jun062010

Q&A With Dan Jenkins, Vol. 3

Tuesday marks the paperback release of Jenkins At The Majors, a compilation of Dan's favorite write-ups from golf's majors. As he did the last two years (here and here), Jenkins answered the questions via email on the eve of 2010 U.S. Open at Pebble Beach.

GS: I know you've been distracted by the looming World Cup, but we are returning to Pebble Beach for the U.S. Open. What do you like most about the place?

DJ: Club 19 in the Lodge is what I used to like best. After that, it's 7, 8,  9, and 10. Great stretch of holes. Right up there with Amen Corner. 8 and 9 are particularly immortal. Did I once name that stretch Abalone Corner? 


GS: Pebble has produced a Hall of Fame winner every time it's hosted a major, does this mean we're due for a drone?

DJ: Pebble is probably due for a drone. Every great course gets one; sometimes more. Oakmont has it's Sam Parks Jr., Oakland Hills has its Steve Jones, Olympic has its Jack Fleck, and Baltusrol has its, well, Baltusrol.


GS: Who do you think will end up with more post-car accident major wins, Hogan or Woods?

DJ: Hogan won six majors after his accident. If Tiger Woods tops that, the good news is, I'll be dead and won't see it.


GS: You wrote that Tiger could "come back and even win again, if he man's up, but if he does he will only be a hero to the 'you-da-man' and 'get-in-the-hole' crowd. And I can't imagine him coming back as a 'humbled man.'"  How do you view his comeback thus far?

DJ: So far, his comeback is a total failure. And compared to Hogan's, it's laughable. Ben tied for the LA Open 11 months after he almost got killed, won the Greenbriar in May and the Open in June. All Tiger has done is hold a staged press conference in front of employees and hired weepers.


GS:  Phil Mickelson now has more green jackets than your man Hogan. What say you Ancient Twitterer?

DJ: Phil may have three Augustas to Hogan's two, but Ben geared his game toward U. S. Opens, of which he has five, counting the one in wartime, while Phil has a record 5 runnersup, cornering the market on silver. But I like Phil and root for him. He's good with us print guys. And he likes me. I like people who like me.


GS: So in the era of layoffs, downsizing, shrinking expense accounts and the overall demise of print, how's Jim Tom Pinch getting by?

DJ: Jim Tom is glad he lived and worked in a better world. And he has little sympathy for dying newspapers. They started digging their own graves by being spineless and politically correct.

Final word. Sorry Jenkins at the Majors is coming out in paperback before I had a chance to include Tiger's press conference for the hired weepers.

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A true CLASSIC !
06.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterOld Hornet
Tiger was never a hero to anyone with half a brain. Admired as a phenom golfer, yes. Hero, no. Jenkins is near enough a Greatest Generation guy. He should know heroes.

Even Jenkins getting into the 'snarky about Tiger' bit. Golf writers must really, really hate that guy.
06.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterBrokaw Weeps
Dan Jenkins has more character in his little finger than most current sports writers have in their entire bodies.
06.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterMike T.
All because Tiger wouldn't have dinner with Dan. What a shame Dan can't get over it. We all know that golfers exist only to feed the ego of self-important writers.

"but Ben geared his game toward U. S. Opens.." I call BS. Ben couldn't putt.

"He's good with us print guys. And he likes me. I like people who like me." That's why Dan's opinion is meaningless. On Meet the Press, it's called "Spin" ie lying to support your friends and punish enemies or the people who won't eat dinner with you.

"If Tiger Woods tops that, the good news is, I'll be dead and won't see it." Hohoho, what a funny guy!

Poor Dan, the Tour just isn't the same since they ended the restrictions.
06.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterHarry
Harry -

Hurry up back to that Kool-Aid stand......and have one on Dan.
06.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterOld Hornet
Harry, don't drink the Kool-Aid! It might make you sick...

All because Tiger wouldn't have dinner with Dan. What a shame Dan can't get over it. We all know that golfers exist only to feed the ego of self-important writers.
Wrong. It is part of their professional obligation for professional golfers to communicate with the interested public through golf writers and broadcasters. Hogan did it, rather famously, despite his desire to keep to himself (while being a difficult cuss much of the time). As has every champion golfer you care to name. With one notable exception.

"but Ben geared his game toward U. S. Opens.." I call BS. Ben couldn't putt.
Later in his career Ben got the yips. One reason is that the encounter with the bus left him with severely compromised vision in one eye. He never complained or made much fuss about that. But as Rosburg or someone said, among professional golfers on TOUR you have your good putters and your very good-to-excellent putters. No one wins 4 (or 5) US Opens if he can't putt. Not to mention 64 TOUR wins.

"He's good with us print guys. And he likes me. I like people who like me." That's why Dan's opinion is meaningless. On Meet the Press, it's called "Spin" ie lying to support your friends and punish enemies or the people who won't eat dinner with you.
Which means that Phil is just being a professional. Like him or not (and he may cross the line at times), not sitting down with Jenkins for the occasional one-on-one is the equivalent of a national politician ignoring the editorial boards of the New York Times and Washington Post, Time and Newsweek, and his local paper. It is hard to imagine that Jenkins really cares what Tiger thinks of him personally, but he is the Arthur Crock/Walter Lippman/Scotty Reston/Damon Runyon/Grantland Rice/Bernard Darwin/Pat Ward-Thomas of extant golf writers. By doing his job Jenkins would not "be making money off Tiger's name", contrary to what Tiger seems to think (about everyone with a professional interest in his career).

"If Tiger Woods tops that, the good news is, I'll be dead and won't see it." Hohoho, what a funny guy!
Yeah, pretty much.

Poor Dan, the Tour just isn't the same since they ended the restrictions.
Very funny.
"People always have a tendency to think today is better than anything that happened yesterday, but it's all right. I know what my record was"

Jack Nicklaus

I'm sure Byron & Ben did as well.
06.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterOld Hornet
Harry,
Print is dead? Do you only look at the pictures on "this cool, new thingy called 'the internet?'"
Mike T.
06.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterMike T.
@Mike "Print is dead?"

Okay, let me clarify. The days of bigfoot writers, pundits and publications shaping the agenda of golf (or politics) are over. Back in the days that KLG mourns, a few writers and publications were the gatekeepers through which the public learned about golf and golfers. Guys Like Arnie played ball and were rewarded handsomely as his popularity shot up - taking golf and golf writers with up him. The writer was, in effect, a participant in the business of golf. The writer had a stake in Arnie's success and would be hurt by inconvenient revelations about the King and others. (JFK, too).

The abilty to shape the public perception of The Tour has been diffused by many other actors in the business. The PGA Tour is much more visibile; The Golf Channel; IMG; Nike; Titleist; Tiger Woods Inc; Johnny Miller; Jack Nicklaus; Tom Watson; CBSNBC; ANGC; USGA; Sergio; paddy;etc;etc.

All of these organizations have specific interests in the game and can enthusiastically choose from a wide variety of platfoms (spoken just like Timmy) to get their messages out. The least important medium would have to be newspapers and magazines. Certainly there is no way to control (or gatekeep) this roiilng mess of conflicting interests and agendas.

Also, it seems like all the good writers have exchanged their Smith-Corona for a microphone and makeup.

My larger point is that Tiger is better off not humoring Dan Jenkins. Dan hasn't been relevant for 25 years and has settled into writing very predictable columns about how wretched the game has become. And Tiger would receive no benefit by kissing Dan's ass.
06.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterHarry
How many majors did Ben Hogan win?? Smack talking Tiger on the course is foolish
06.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterJay
He is, however, an open book off the course
06.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterJay
Harry - the Ghost warned you not to drink the kool aid. Sorry.Now we all know you don't have a life. Glad you're with Tiger,seems to fit. You da man.
jb
06.7.2010 | Unregistered Commenterjb
Tsk, tsk, JB. Drivel such as "don't have a life" and "glad you're with Tiger, seems to fit" is definitely Kool-Aid of the Shackelfordian flavor.

But "you da man" is a big no-no.

You'll figure it out.
06.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterOh, yeah!
Dan Jenkins is a grouchy old curmudgeon who is a lot more interesting to read than 99% of the golf writers out there. But he has some curious blind spots, like his Tiger animosity.
06.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterJoey
Hogan's US Open results from 1940 to 1960. Keep in mind the courses and conditions for the US Open, and that you would think at least ONCE you'd have a bad week where the course wins.

Harry, you look quite the fool for your comment per Hogan and US Opens.

T5
T3
NT(no tourney)
NT
NT
NT
T4
T6
WIN
dnp
WIN
WIN
3
WIN
T6
2
T2
dnp
T10
T8
T9

In TOP 10 for 20 years. Gulp. Wow.
06.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterSpenceOnGolf
Ok, I think I get it. His record in US Opens is better than any major...he is quoted as sayiing it is the one he coveted most. Yet you say that he geared his game for US Opens is an "idiotic" assumption.

Given that your posts have been so well thought out, free of emotion/hatred, full of reason (easily in top 15? 15? really?), and eloquently delivered, I had to question my own analysis of Hogan's ability.

And I found out you were right all along. You see, I think I figured out how you judged his greatness. The way I figured it, you added his finishes together to get a sum. Adding up his finishes, I got 62.

That is a REALLY high number, like, oh my God, bigger than the number 50!

It's science.
06.7.2010 | Unregistered CommenterSpenceOnGolf
Harry,

I'm pretty sure you'll find Tiger isn't bigger than the game as you earlier asserted. Maybe he's become bigger than the PGA Tour. But the PGA Tour isn't the game. And golf would still exist without the PGA Tour.

Participation in the USA has declined since Tiger's famous "hello world". So how much influence is he having on those who play, as opposed to those who watch?

The game was played for hundreds of years before Tiger arrived and will still be played long after he departs. Each generation will have it's stars / heroes who inspire people to play. Tiger is just this generations star.

Cheers

CT
06.7.2010 | Unregistered Commentercold topped
I believe the US Open was commonly referred to as "The National Open" back in the day and it was much prestigous than The Masters.
"Hogan sits solidly in top 15 all time. Pretty good player"

Yeah, right.



Is there an ignore feature at this website?
06.7.2010 | Unregistered Commenterd.b.cooper
Jenkins is a delight to read. Thank you for this interview! In the midst of Tiger gate, mist of us have become partisans on the subject. It's a shame, but understandable. Tiger has given us amazing golf to witness. Period. At least the equal of Hogan. I'm glad I was able to watch it. The other stuff is pointless distraction.

OT- I'm currently visiting Bandon Dunes. Old Macdonald is amazing. Everyone who loves golf architecture should be scheming to come play it ASAP!
06.8.2010 | Unregistered CommenterTed Cahill
I'd rather read technical bulletins about hose couplings than suffer through more pouting lamentations from Jenkins about Tiger Woods. Jenkins comes off sounding small, as usual, since you never become a big man by trying to make somebody else feel small.
06.8.2010 | Unregistered Commentertlavin
Dan Jenkins trying to make Tiger look small?

Tiger and IMG see any contact with others not as simple human interaction, or as cooperating with others in the industry in which they work, but as an opportunity to enlarge an already huge waterfall of money.

Tiger doesn't look small because Dan Jenkins is trying to make him look small. He looks small because his is small.

Maybe if Tiger hadn't denied himself the normal human interaction that actually enriches all our lives, he wouldn't have been compulsively seeking the tawdry, sleazy type of relationships he sought.
06.8.2010 | Unregistered CommenterCOB
C'mon Jenks...give us a break..your bitterness with Tiger over not getting an interview is old news...get over it...it's OK if someone who's not from the "Greatest Generation" eventually becomes in the history books the world's greatest golfer...Tiger will come back...maybe not at your speed or to your liking, but it is what it is....and he still brings in the revenue and TV audiences so essential in these times which are 50+ years past the times of the greatest generation...things change and they change for the better...you need to change too!
06.8.2010 | Unregistered CommenterBuddy FL
I enjoy reading Dan Jenkins and Tiger apologists are just like the IMG thugs a hint of criticism and they are all nuclear. My favourite comment in this poisonous thread is
'Maybe if Tiger hadn't denied himself the normal human interaction that actually enriches all our lives, he wouldn't have been compulsively seeking the tawdry, sleazy type of relationships he sought."
Well said!
06.9.2010 | Unregistered Commenterrichie rich

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