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LPGA Launching Probe Into Canada Saga

Steve Elling gets the word from LPGA communications chief David Higdon.

“We have treated this situation very seriously, and have or will speak to all principles involved,” Higdon said in an email Sunday morning. “Yes, we are looking very closely at it.”

The LPGA has had issues in the past with South Korean natives, who have been accused by other players of bending rules by conversing with friends or parents and receiving advice in their native tongue, among other perceived violations. The LPGA at one point put players on notice that such conversations and interaction would not be tolerated. One longtime LPGA caddie with his own blog site claimed this weekend that Korean players have been getting away with rules violations for years, causing some to accuse him of racism.

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Why is this story not being reported? I've seen nothing on the golf channel. I looked around the golfweek site and couldn't find anything. are they shilling for the lpga by not putting it out there?
08.29.2010 | Unregistered CommenterPapa Bing
This is going to be fascinating.
08.29.2010 | Unregistered CommenterBuffett
Maybe Bivens didn't get it so wrong after all.
oh man. no matter which way this thing goes it's bad for the lpga. but if there is sufficient evidence that some players are cheating, it has to be addressed.
08.29.2010 | Unregistered Commenterthusgone
Papa Bing wrote: "Why is this story not being reported?..."

Golf mags and the Golf Channel are not about journalism, except selectively and when they're forced to be. They're racket is promoting golf, and this story is not good for business. Once a person understand this, a whole new world opens up.

The AP is about journalism, of course, but this episode is not yet high-profile enough for them to devote any resources. They'll get after it soon enough, provided the LPGA does the right thing--which is no given.

Frankly, I haven't gotten over Michelle Wie grounding her club in the hazard. When I saw the replay of that and read her claim (she wanted to avoid falling down), she was dead to me.
08.29.2010 | Unregistered CommenterDMazza
Who's the caddy and where's his blog? Link please. Inquiring minds would like to hear what he has to say. . .
08.29.2010 | Unregistered CommenterSmolmania
sorry, found it below. . .
08.29.2010 | Unregistered CommenterSmolmania
“You did not see anything”, would be the most likely LPGA response to cover it up til they get some heat. And now they are launching some lukewarm investigation 2 days after the incident? Come on.

The LPGA seems to be a fun place to be - discrimination, cheating, racism, disrespect for the game
08.29.2010 | Unregistered Commenterkafka01
"You did not see anything" -- it's possible that could have been a question to the caddie, rather than a vaguely threatening-sounding statement. A player whose first language is not English and is unsure if a weird mixup happened with the golf balls, asking her caddie, "You did not see anything?"

Or it's possible they conspired to cheat. Innocent until proven quilty, especially with the language issues and with lots of caddies (apparently, if you read the source blog) having a dislike of and distrust for Asian players.
08.29.2010 | Unregistered CommenterDave
It's time the Korean bunch were sent packing.
08.29.2010 | Unregistered CommenterFloyd R. Turbo
Harsh penalties for these two if guilty. No "Korean vendetta" though I hope.
08.29.2010 | Unregistered CommenterAverage Golfer
Two hours later?! Loads of time before some heavy guilt/threat set in and makes it worse IMO.

The context of the alleged "you did not see anything" is moot since they signed their cards incorrectly after knowingly completing the hole with the wrong ball(s). Either way, it is the player's job to identify their ball since they are standing over/marking it.

What would the penalty be if the first one holed out, realized the mistake and went to the RO to attempt to straighten it out before signing a card? Do they go back to their original (correct) positions in the fairway and assess penalty strokes accordingly? Or is it an automatic DQ once a wrong ball is holed?
08.29.2010 | Unregistered CommenterNRH
NRH, they go back and re-play from the fairway with the appropriate penalty strokes. They have to announce their intention to correct their mistake before leaving the 18th green, and then go do it (replay from the fairway).
08.29.2010 | Unregistered CommenterErik J. Barzeski
Geez! . . . Another ethnic group over running us "real Americans." . . . Amazing how they are so different from us . . . We never cheat or lie . . . They always do . . . Look at the sports where us "real Americans" still dominate . . . Football - baseball - basketball and how cheating is epidemic . . . Coaches actually teach players how to do it and then to flop properly. . . But, of course, it is OK since we are "real Americans." . . . Yes, it is possible that some golfers are cheating . . . Yes it is possible that some ethnic groups of golfers are seriously out working other ethnic groups . . . Yes it is possible that some out worked ethnic groups are whiners and complainers. . . Get over it America . . . You have lost your advantage - the playing field is now close to equal. . . .

Although . . . It might be appropriate to mention that the 2 finalists in today's U.S. Amateur did come from seriously advantaged American families.
08.29.2010 | Unregistered CommenterWisconsin Reader
M. Wie 2 ahead of where Sorenstam was at the same age.

I love the Korean Kontingent. They put in the work and get the results.
08.30.2010 | Unregistered CommenterDel the Funk
Wow!! Thankfully Wisconsin Reader comes through with a post of common sense in a sea of idiocy.
Some of the comments are unbelievably ignorant and probably racist, but put that aside for a moment, I'm surprised that so many of you don't realize that golf has gone international. If you remove the international element from the PGA and LPGA tours, you are left with a sad, inferior product. A real piece of crap.

It doesn't matter if someone is speaking Chinese, Italian, English, Korean, Dutch or German - if they break the rules, they should be dealt with all the same way. Don't kid yourself, there has been much more cheating in golf worked out in English than in any other language on earth.
08.30.2010 | Unregistered CommenterPress Agent
what thusgone said.
It certainly seems bad. Bob Weeks on scoregolf did a nice job of articulating what seems beyond belief to me. 2 Players putted out without recognising they were playing the wrong balls:

'..if a player plays the wrong ball, chances are she's going to notice it once you get on the green. The player will pick up the ball, the caddie will clean the ball, hand it back to the player and on the LPGA Tour, it seems the players spend an inordinate amount of time lining up the ball with the little line that's painted on it.

If these two did indeed play the wrong ball, it would mean two players and two caddies failed to notice that they were playing the wrong ball. Don't forget, these balls would be marked with the players' Sharpie identifications too. And if they didn't notice the balls then, what made them even think about it two hours later? When they were at their hotels?'
08.30.2010 | Unregistered Commenterdbh
4 humans acting as 4 humans. all 4 knew. all 4 chose to not address the issue immediately as per rules. it happens but so do examples of professional players calling penalties on themselves.
08.30.2010 | Unregistered CommenterJC
What is beyond me is how DJ can be read the riot act for not recognizing a 'bunker' with the hoopla going on around him, and the uncertainty of exactly where the ball lied relative to the margin of the hazard, and the OBVIOUS MARKING OF A GOLF BALL , PICKED UP and in hand, could be any sort of 'accident', once discovered.

I call BS on these players. They cheated and got caught. And i don't care is he are the MBros from Italy. This is not about nationality, it is about th alleged 'honor' of golfers. If proven, ban them.. If I am wrong , I will apologize.

ds
08.30.2010 | Unregistered Commenterdigsouth

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