Latest From GolfDigest.com
Latest From The Loop
Twitter
Books
  • Lines of Charm: Brilliant And Irreverent Quotes, Notes, And Anecdotes from Golf's Golden Age Architects
    Lines of Charm: Brilliant And Irreverent Quotes, Notes, And Anecdotes from Golf's Golden Age Architects
  • The Future of Golf: How Golf Lost Its Way and How to Get It Back
    The Future of Golf: How Golf Lost Its Way and How to Get It Back
    by Geoff Shackelford
  • Grounds for Golf: The History and Fundamentals of Golf Course Design
    Grounds for Golf: The History and Fundamentals of Golf Course Design
    by Geoff Shackelford
  • The Art of Golf Design
    The Art of Golf Design
    by Michael Miller, Geoff Shackelford
  • Alister MacKenzie's Cypress Point Club
    Alister MacKenzie's Cypress Point Club
    by Geoff Shackelford
  • The Golden Age of Golf Design
    The Golden Age of Golf Design
    by Geoff Shackelford
  • The Good Doctor Returns: A Novel
    The Good Doctor Returns: A Novel
    by Geoff Shackelford
  • Masters of the Links: Essays on the Art of Golf and Course Design
    Masters of the Links: Essays on the Art of Golf and Course Design
  • The Captain: George C. Thomas Jr. and His Golf Architecture
    The Captain: George C. Thomas Jr. and His Golf Architecture
    by Geoff Shackelford
Current Reading
  • The Early Days of Pinehurst
    The Early Days of Pinehurst
    by Chris Buie
  • Arnie, Seve, and a Fleck of Golf History: Heroes, Underdogs, Courses, and Championships
    Arnie, Seve, and a Fleck of Golf History: Heroes, Underdogs, Courses, and Championships
    by Bill Fields
  • The Magnificent Masters: Jack Nicklaus, Johnny Miller, Tom Weiskopf, and the 1975 Cliffhanger at Augusta
    The Magnificent Masters: Jack Nicklaus, Johnny Miller, Tom Weiskopf, and the 1975 Cliffhanger at Augusta
    by Gil Capps
  • His Ownself: A Semi-Memoir
    His Ownself: A Semi-Memoir
    by Dan Jenkins
  • Professional Golf 2014: The Complete Media, Fan and Fantasy Guide
    Professional Golf 2014: The Complete Media, Fan and Fantasy Guide
    by Daniel Wexler
Classics
  • Golf Architecture in America: Its Strategy and Construction
    Golf Architecture in America: Its Strategy and Construction
    by Geo. C. Thomas
  • The Course Beautiful : A Collection of Original Articles and Photographs on Golf Course Design
    The Course Beautiful : A Collection of Original Articles and Photographs on Golf Course Design
    Treewolf Prod
  • Reminiscences Of The Links
    Reminiscences Of The Links
    by Albert Warren Tillinghast, Richard C. Wolffe, Robert S. Trebus, Stuart F. Wolffe
  • Gleanings from the Wayside
    Gleanings from the Wayside
    by Albert Warren Tillinghast
  • Planet Golf USA: The Definitive Reference to Great Golf Courses in America
    Planet Golf USA: The Definitive Reference to Great Golf Courses in America
    by Darius Oliver
  • Planet Golf: The Definitive Reference to Great Golf Courses Outside the United States of America
    Planet Golf: The Definitive Reference to Great Golf Courses Outside the United States of America
    by Darius Oliver
Writing And Videos
Feedblitz
Enter your Email


Powered by FeedBlitz
« "The innovative fusion sport of soccer-golf is helping Argentine courses stay afloat in testing economic times when golfing revenue alone is often not enough..." | Main | Letter From Saugerties: Taxation And Golf's Non-Profits »
Tuesday
Nov132012

Poulter On Kingston Heath: "Someone please tell modern day architects we don't need 8000 yard tracks..."

The defending Australian Masters champion Ian Poulter got his first look at Kingston Heath Tuesday (he won last year at the equally fantastic Victoria).

Not surprisingly, Poulter liked what he found at the Heath and Tweeted accordingly:

 And this about the famous 15th.

Golf Channel hosts live coverage in the United States beginning at 5:30 Pacific Wednesday. Not only a chance to see great players dealing with one of the world's most idyllic courses, but Australian coverage is nearly always excellent.

PrintView Printer Friendly Version

EmailEmail Article to Friend

Reader Comments (25)

The course is in fantastic shape, and the weather forecast looks good. Hope it is a great week!
11.14.2012 | Unregistered CommenterMatthewM
I hope I get to see it on TV and am planning a visit to KH in 2014.
11.14.2012 | Unregistered CommenterIvan Morris
You're right, Australian TV golf coverage is superb and US coverage is crap.
11.14.2012 | Unregistered CommenterIvan Morris
''Australian TV golf coverage is superb''

VERY debatable.
11.14.2012 | Unregistered Commenterdigsouth
Who'd a thunk it, eh? The voice of reason from Poults!

I was at Lytham this year and was highly entertained watching the pros try to navigate their way around this course. Some of them were made to look very silly when they got out of position. It 'don't' have to be long; fast fairways and well-positioned bunkers will reduce the strongest of men to tears!
Someone tell Ian & all other touring pros and those who want to become one that we also don't need clubs and golf balls made so that an 8,000 yard course is needed to challenge the best players...

Tell them to take a stand with the R&A & USGA and ask for equipment rollbacks... Then again, these are the same ones who are currently rbelling against the diea of these same governing bodies banning the belly putter.

Ian, the word is hypocrisy...
11.14.2012 | Unregistered Commenterphil the author
How many 8,000 yard courses are there? Has there been a rash of them lately?
11.14.2012 | Unregistered CommenterKelly Blake Moran
So true ,Geoff- watched the last tournament there won by VanPelt and loved it so much.
The sounds and announcing where like a trip back to a better time.
Thank God for Australia
11.14.2012 | Unregistered Commenterjjshaka
i hear the new rocketbladez irons are much longer, along with the new taylormade ball. 8,000 yards won't be so bad.
11.14.2012 | Unregistered CommenterCharlie
http://www.frenchlick.com/golf/petedye

fairly new course, 8,100 from the tips.
11.14.2012 | Unregistered CommenterCharlie
During last year's Australian tv coverage it was tough to take all the Tiger slurping from Ian Baker Finch.

More Jack Newton and less Baker Finch please.
not surprised with his comments cos its a great course and it isn't over-long.
Not surprised he enjoys it either as its easier than it should be with today's juiced-up equipment.
Now if we had more classic courses for tournaments and a sensible reduction in equipment then we would all have a lot of fun-players and spectators alike!
Can't see it happening though!
Based on what we have seen with the potential belly-putter ban...a proposed rollback in the golfball would likely result in many tour pros whining that it will take away their chance to make money (and maybe lawsuits). We often hear players complain if they can't reach a par 5 in two shots and that it is a bad hole if they are forced to hit 3 shots to reach the green (becomes a wedge contest). Lots of inconsistencies from many of the players.
11.14.2012 | Unregistered CommenterSteve
Thank goodness there is no USGA U.S. Open down under and may there be anything like it... Otherwise, your KHs and RMWs of the world would go under the knife for that 8,000 yard course or 245 yard crap...

MM,

I'm stoked for you guys!
11.14.2012 | Unregistered CommenterPHK
@Smacking.

Agree, more Jack Newton and much less IBF.
11.14.2012 | Unregistered Commenterfyg
Nice to see the Melbourne sand-belt courses once again get the praise they deserve. It's a shame that they are not ranked accordingly. Someone on Poulter's twitter questioned 15 at Kingston Heath vs. 16 at Cypress. I've been fortunate to play both courses and I think KH is the better golf course. Cypress may have better views, but that's about it...
11.14.2012 | Unregistered CommenterIanB
@ IanB. Go play NSW for the best of both.
11.14.2012 | Unregistered Commentermetro18
Does anyone know why they changed the routing? BOgle just claimed it was to "liven up the finish". Proving himself the moron that he is once again. The finish is unchanged. Anyone out there in Shack land with the inside scoop? And any thoughts on the changes and how they will affect how the course will play based on the different winds? Mike C?
11.14.2012 | Unregistered CommenterGeorge B
@Metro18 I play at the Australian GC. Have played NSW dozens of times over the years - pennants, NSW Cup, etc. Absolutely love the golf course. My only issue with NSW is that it borders on unplayable sometimes due to the wind, particularly with a strong southerly. That said - you've raised a good question - what's the better members course? NSW or Kingston Heath. I wouldn't mind throwing in Metro to the mix. As for the AGC - let's see how playable the new course is for the members....
11.14.2012 | Unregistered CommenterIanB
@George - so that both nines start and finish alongside the clubhouse. Helps to simplify tee time logistics.
11.14.2012 | Unregistered CommenterRob
@IanB - what is the completion date for the work that is being done on The Australian? Are they changing the routing? Will some holes be finished before the entire project? Will there be a different look to the course? (The Lakes really changed in appearance after Mike Clayton re-did it).

I was visiting Sydney a few months ago and played at Royal Sydney - the members there said that there was some temporary short course set up at the Australian - how short?
11.14.2012 | Unregistered CommenterRob
@Rob - here's a summary;
Nicklaus is architect. Work started June 1. Temporary course in play although it's only just a course - mostly 100m par threes threaded in between the mess... Opening date is 8th March - breakfast with Nicklaus then he plays the course for the first time (with a mic, etc to talk about the changes). Members play 9th March. All holes will be complete on opening.

Changes are significant. Every green, every tee and every bunker - destroyed. 7th, 9th ,10th, 14th and 18th fairways re-routed/re-shaped but the routing is essentially the same. All fairways shredded. Many new bunkers. All dams rebuilt except for 17. Theme of course is that the bunkers will all be visible, more slope on greens (but nothing like the Lakes...) much more protection (bunkers/water/slopes) in front of the greens. Many new tee locations. Course will be around 6800m from the back - and remember there's little if any run :-)

It's going to be an incredible championship course - no question about it. I'll be interested to see if the rating from the back tees keeps under 80 (it was 76 before). I suspect though that unless they put a set of 'short' tees in (which they eventually will) that it be far too difficult for the average golfer. I've played over 300 courses - not sure I've ever seen anything as hard as this will be.
11.14.2012 | Unregistered CommenterIanB
@IanB

Thanks for all those details!

Wow, I am going to have to check it out the next time I'm in Oz and see how those changes compare to the 1977-2012 version of the course.
11.14.2012 | Unregistered CommenterRob
@IanB But that's what makes NSW such a fun place - the wind. Played there in an Aussie Am once. First day into the fifth, it was driver - 5 iron. The second day - driver, 3 wood, 3 wood. And you're right - Metro rocks!!
11.15.2012 | Unregistered Commentermetro18
IMO Kingston Heath is easily the #1 course in Oz. Royal Melbourne's fantastic design does not make up for their new scrappy legends couch fairways and concrete greens (east course is laughable right now). Loving the Masters coverage, all set for a great final day Poults Vs Scott.
11.16.2012 | Unregistered CommenterSandy

PostPost a New Comment

Enter your information below to add a new comment.

My response is on my own website »
Author Email (optional):
Author URL (optional):
Post:
 
All HTML will be escaped. Hyperlinks will be created for URLs automatically.