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Thursday
Nov082012

TigeRory Elaborate On Their Bond In Another Joint Interview

They keep this up, I'm going to suspect these two are running for office together.

Interviewed by Shane O'Donoghue in what appears to be the koi pond exhibit at the Shanghai Zoo, Tiger talks about old buds (O'Meara, Vijay) but quotes like this suggest things are getting serious between the World's No. 1 and 2: "Our relationship has evolved because we played with each other a lot this year," and "we had that feeling but we just didn't share it with the public."

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I'm sensing a wide variety of descriptive terms getting ready to hurled Rory's way...

...you know, things like slurper, sycophant, fanboy, etc...
11.8.2012 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
I just liked the reaction to the Faldo question
11.8.2012 | Unregistered Commenterelf
Tiger & Rory,
I love you guys. Never change!
11.8.2012 | Unregistered CommenterDr. Strangelove
I think Tigilroy has a better ring to it. Rors can teach Tiger how to drive the ball, and Tiger can teach Rors about non-golf things
11.8.2012 | Unregistered CommenterDules
I'm not sure Tiger is the guy you want teaching you about "non-golf things."
11.8.2012 | Unregistered CommenterRicky
(Groan) This bromance stuff again? Damn, Nike's PR dept must be buzzing these days.

Unless TW is secretly trying to absorb Rory's prowess with the driver thru osmosis....wake me when they show up next year wearing coordinated Nike outfits.
11.9.2012 | Unregistered Commenterjohnnnycz
Interestingly, Tiger was 5th in the total driving stats, while Rory was 53d. Admittedly, Tiger uses a lot more 3 woods which skews the data, but I wonder whether that really is the problem anymore for him? I think the issue is much more distance control with the short irons.
11.9.2012 | Unregistered CommenterSari
Rory is really crooked off the tee if anybody would actually care to look at his PGA Tour and Euro Tour driving accuracy numbers. Might surprise a great deal of people that don't seem to actually look stuff up. :)
11.9.2012 | Unregistered CommenterOWGR Fan
OWGR-- Come on....everyone know we have you to do that for us! :)

Seriously...I was reading about Rory's irons somewhere, and it noted he was switching from a 5.5 to a 6.0 shaft.... stiff to ''one more''....and most players of his caliber are using 6.5s or 7.0's.....the point being....he is getting a bit more ''whip'' with the softer shaft and not as much accuracy (amazing given his great iron game when he is on) and I wonder if his driver shafts are soft as well, possibly accounting for his amazing distance for his size/weight, but his poor control.
11.9.2012 | Unregistered Commenterdigsouth
"Our relationship has evolved because we played with each other a lot this year," and "we had that feeling but we just didn't share it with the public." - Digsouth, that quote from Tiger should clue you in: Any questions you have about the how stiff Rory's shaft is should be directed to Tiger.
11.9.2012 | Unregistered CommenterCOB
I'm surprised at how calm things are....can only guess the sheer magnitude of this betrayal by Ror's has gobsmacked the consumed to the point they incapable of emoting!
11.9.2012 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
"I'm sensing a wide variety of descriptive terms getting ready to hurled Rory's way...

...you know, things like slurper, sycophant, fanboy, etc..."

No, DTF, these are descriptive terms to be hurled at you.

There was nothing in the interview that suggested that Rory was the latest incarnation of John Cook, Notah Begay III, Charles Howell III, etc. Those sycophants were shameless in "growing the legend" as Earl used to say. Rory comes along as honest and is not at Tiger's feet slurping around in order to find some measure of validation. It is a completely different dynamic between these two than any of those other so call "relationships."

Anyways, it is getting too hard to "growth the legend" anymore if you haven't won a major since the George W. Bush Administration.
11.9.2012 | Unregistered CommenterAbu Dhabi Golfer
ADG....I get the sense you are trying to hurt my feelings? Now why would you do that? I think Ror's has hurt yours ;-)
11.9.2012 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
It's called respect. The kind that the truly gifted sometimes have for another they recognize as one of their own. Like Magic and Bird. Borg and McEnroe. Jordan and... well, Jordan...
11.9.2012 | Unregistered CommenterRLL
I have to give Woods credit - this is one of the best interviews he has ever given. There have been few rare others (he gave one sitting along with cricketer Shane Warne once which was excellent). Honest, clear, an absence of his trademark bullshit. One gets a real sense that these guys are friends (as opposed to "we're best buddies nonsense" with guys such as Howell, Begay, Bjorn, Clarke etc).

This is a major improvement for Woods. Well done Rory.

As long as he stays away from the sycophant interviewers such as Tilghman and Feherty and does a few more of these interviews with McIlroy, it will be a good thing.
11.9.2012 | Unregistered CommenterAbu Dhabi Golfer
I'm torn between supporting DTF, whose choice of verb -- "hurled" -- was evocative, and ADG, who is also on to something.

And yet, and yet...the duo act is new, but once again we have a new "very good friend" who achieved that by being a number one (this is shades of Duval, Jordan, A-Rod, Federer, etc., though some of those may also have featured other criteria).

Also new -- and maybe the shape of things to come -- Rory taking precedence. Even newer: Tiger not seeming to mind. Fairly believable -- Tiger's spontaneous reaction to the Faldo example -- not guaranteed to elicit much obeisance from Faldo the broadcaster in future. And Tiger actually commenting upon Jack and Arnie: he was almost candid there!

We'll see how long all this lasts. How much "fun" it is to play Rory if he keeps winning majors and Hisself does not.

But if this is theway of the future, it is indeed a whole new presentation from Tiger. Are all those macs and cheeses with the kds making him bland, polite and calm?
11.9.2012 | Unregistered CommenterGhillie
@Dig.... Thats just the point. As DTF posted in another thread the other day do people actually even read anything here? Or elsewhere? Many people, and not just on this blog, simply repeat the same opinions about the same old inaccurate things long enough that they believe it is fact ehen they are really just simple repetitive knee jerk reactions that at times have zero basis in accuracy or reality.

If people would take a few minutes to read an article posted or gasp! look something up (btw somebody should create something whereby its easy to do that. Perhaps call it the internet) then the statements they post on said article can be viewed in a more serious light. Of course YMMV.
11.9.2012 | Unregistered CommenterOWGR Fan
Tiger's trying to Yoko the Wozilroys!

If this doesn't end up with Rory lying beside a fire hydrant with a head full of Ambien and clutching his knee, then it will all have been a huge waste...
11.9.2012 | Unregistered Commenterdsl
Actually Rory is one of the best drivers on the pga tour. The prob with the tour's stat is a) it only includes driving distance on a couple holes per round and b) it treats 15yds off frwy the same as being in the fringe. The guy who designed strokes gained putting has done the same for off the tee (and approach shots and short game): by his calculations Rory was 2nd on tour in driving (Tiger was 10th).

For a breakdown of Rory and Tiger's total strokes gained on tour this year, read the golf article http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/compare-rory-mcilroy-tiger-woods-2012-pga-tour-stats
11.9.2012 | Unregistered Commenterelf
I just want to know if Tiger offers to share his sugar free popsicles when Rory sleeps over.
11.9.2012 | Unregistered CommenterFifth Column
elf, interesting info there. Yet another nail in the coffin of the "Tiger can't hit the driver" brigade...
11.9.2012 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
Apparently DTF things that driving and hitting the driver are the same thing.

A stack-and-tilt swipe with a cavity back two iron can really get the ball moving. But, it isn't evidence that Tiger can hit the driver like he used to.
11.9.2012 | Unregistered Commentersgolfer
Man, after all this bromance smooching and Tiger STILL does not have the #1 ranked golfer coming to his event in December?

It's not hard to tell who the new alpha male is.
I was going to say that this was a real sign of transition from one era to the next, but Tiger beat me to it.
11.9.2012 | Unregistered CommenterRob
sgolfer, please cite some statistical facts to support your case.
11.9.2012 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
@COB That's kinda nasty, but you may be right.

@OWGR Yep. Fortunately I am Evelyn Wood Schooled, and it helps amass a great deal of information. Sadly, it doesn't help my typing skills.
11.9.2012 | Unregistered Commenterdigsouth
@sgolfer, the strokes gained distance stat uses all drives on par 4/5's not just a couple per round. If you are consistently shorter (so use a 2 iron) you get penalized. Rory is 2nd bc he hits his driver a lot, Tiger is 10th bc he's shorter - but he's still on average long and accurate.
11.9.2012 | Unregistered Commenterelf
@elf - it is a juiced up two iron - essentially a driving iron with a really fat top line and a massive cavity back.

@dtf - even better than statistical mumbo jumbo, here is a little photo for you:

http://www.golf.com/photos/2012-pga-championship-golf-equipment-tiger-woods-ernie-els/tiger-woods
11.9.2012 | Unregistered Commentersgolfer
@sgolfer, I know he sometimes uses the 2/3 iron thingy, but nobody on tour uses driver on every hole. Point is on balance off the tee Tiger is relatively long and straight, and Rory is better. And that's just statistically true
11.9.2012 | Unregistered Commenterelf
sgolfer, I knew you couldn't, and wouldn't.

Spot on elf.
11.9.2012 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
@elf.... As an aside I never mentioned driving distance. As for Rory being the second best driver on the PGA Tour this year buy some other calculation ... sorry cant buy it.

When you are in the 160s in driving accuracy on the PGA Tour and near the 190s on the Euro Tour no fancy number massaging can change the fact Rory at this time in his career misses a great deal of fairways. Whether they are buy an inch, 3 feet or 40 yards.

Don't get me wrong. I like Rory and he should be the biggest and brighest star in professional golf for some time based on what he has accomplshed so far. Look we all know numbers can be massaged to show anything but if you look at it on a simply practical level Rory is not the second best driver on the PGA Tour..... But to quote an old line you can't polish a turd. The turd being driving accuracy based on todays ball and equipment.

However what Rory has is the "it" like many other golfing greats have had to recover from mistakes. And Rory tends/seems to hit the right shot at the right time that enables him to be in contention frequently and win at a good clip. It should be a fun ride for golf fans to follow.
11.9.2012 | Unregistered CommenterOWGR Fan
@owgr the stat isn't perfect, but it operates under the assumption that 310 in the intermediate is a better spot to attack the green (on avg) then 260 in the fairway

Basically, unlike the PGA tour total driving stat, it rewards Rory for pulling driver maybe more than anyone else on tour, esp in the long hitters category
11.10.2012 | Unregistered CommenterElf
Tiger does NOTHING out of the goodness of his heart. He's got an agenda, proven by the fact that he even sat down to do this interview. So, the question is: What?

Gotta be on a promise from Nike to get Rory on the team.

And, btw, whomever it was who said Rory was playing 5.5 Rifles, er, no, he's not. Those'd be his Dad's clubs.
11.10.2012 | Unregistered CommenterAK47
@AK47... I quoted the 5.5's hey I agree with you, but I'll try and find the (innacurate?) source....and of course, he could have been lieing.
11.11.2012 | Unregistered Commenterdigsouth

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