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Thursday
Jul052012

"This week marks a change. Appearance money [is being paid in the] U.S. but not in Europe."

Steve Elling looks at the possibility that appearance money is being paid in clever ways at the Greenbrier Classic and at events like the Zurich Classic.

He gets several tournament directors and agents to talk, and they are not pleased to see what's going on.

The tour uses a very narrow, if not convenient, definition of "appearance fee." If a player has deeper business dealings with a corporate entity beyond taking cash to play, then he's generally free to ink a personal-services deal for whatever dollar figure he can command. If this sounds mostly like semantics, well, the line forms here.

As one very high-profile international player put it on Tuesday, "This week marks a change. Appearance money [is being paid in the] U.S. but not in Europe."

After arriving Tuesday, Woods was not specifically asked if he was being compensated by Justice this week, though a local reporter did ask if Justice resorted to “pulling his arm” to get him there.

"What sold it to me was watching it on TV and seeing how players enjoyed it," Woods said unblinkingly.

Um, did he say "sold?"

Mickelson played at Greenbrier last year -- for two days. He missed the cut.

"I know for a fact that Phil got $1 million last year," one top-tier agent insisted, citing a figure that was echoed by two other tour-related sources.

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I was just thinking about Joe Hardy and sure enough he was mentioned in the article. They sound like very similar types.
07.5.2012 | Unregistered CommenterThe Big K
Very interesting. A few years back Commissioner Finchem and Davis Love III went ape $#!+ over VJ's similar deals during Doral. Will be interesting to see if the same thing happens this time. Then again, Commissioner Finchm just extended the Tour contract with Greenbriar an extra 6 years. Could Commissioner Finchem be receiving appearance fee ca$h too?

RGT
07.5.2012 | Unregistered CommenterRGT
Elling sure has a lot of unnamed sources. Since when has the playing field ever been level, to begin with?
S&T,

Yes, indeed, there are several unnamed sources. But these are very credible folks, guys I have known and trusted for years, all operating in the same very tight arena of sorts.

Don't like writing "sources said" anymore than you guys like reading it, but sometimes, when you need unfettered opinions, you have to protect identities.

Steve E.
07.5.2012 | Unregistered Commentersteve elling
Sadly, it makes perfect sense economically. I love golf but a lackluster field in a regular tour event is not must see television anymore...if it ever was.
07.5.2012 | Unregistered Commenterjjshaka
It's a free market....get away with the ban on appearance fees. If you can provide a service somebody is willing to pay for, I'm perfectly fine with you getting paid. If you're 97th on the money list, not being offered appearance cash, and are complaining about iy....well, there's only one remedy: go practice.
07.5.2012 | Unregistered CommenterAlex H.
Yes, yes, Commissioner Finchem should just sweep the Tour's rules on appearance fees right under the rug with the we don't recognise (MASTERS) clubs that discriminate.
07.5.2012 | Unregistered CommenterRGT
1 million to show up and miss the cut? Does this include free private jet service too? Damn should have worked on my golf game back in the day instead of being young and stupid.
07.5.2012 | Unregistered CommenterA3
I agree with Alex H. If they can get it, they should take it. It's legal (as long as it's declared as earned income).
I wonder who actually loses on this deal. The money comes from the club tournament committee or a sponsor. Who do they pass the cost on to, the tv networks, who it turn can pass it on to advertisers, who can pass it on to customers . . . uhhhh . . . is that us?
07.5.2012 | Unregistered Commentergov. lepetomane
Does anyone see an irony that Tim Finchem would go ballistic about these fees. For a guy that is all about the money, makes $10 million per year, pays his staff crazy amounts of money, rides around in a private jet, he wants to limit an independent player from making money?
07.5.2012 | Unregistered CommenterJSS
I know I beat it to death but all that comes to mind is GREED. I think it's great that some of these tournament hosts have figured out a way to get the best players to come to their stop, but what happens to the events that can't do that? There are some great tour stops that in my opinion will slowly slip away when they can't play the game. It used to be like the LPGA, the guys would show up regardless of the course. Then the Tournaments started "bribing" these independent contractors with airplane rides and gifts for their wives and BMW driving tracks. Now this. Thanks Commissioner Tim. Why couldn't you of just made a 4 year rotation where the players "had" to play an event at least once. The independent contractor nonsense is a bunch of bs, if it was mandated the players would do it. Can't wait until Jim Justice, Donald Trump, etc, are the only ones hosting events.
07.5.2012 | Unregistered Commenterol Harv
When I saw a leaderboard earlier, I was actually surprised to see Woods' name on it, and naively thought he was serious about getting more "reps" in. I should have known he wouldn't be at some two-bit tourney a couple of weeks before the Open and a week after winning for nothing.

But unless he has a damned good Friday he's going to be a waste of dough. As is the other one.

More fools they who pay. Offer them something to turn up if you like, but with top ten players -- or million-dollar ones - they should be making the size of the fee contingent upon number of rouns completed.

Oh, of course, they are not being paid actually to appear in the Tournament...yeah, right.
07.5.2012 | Unregistered CommenterGhillie
Steve, what did Phil say when you asked him about the $1 million payment for the 2011 Greenbriar event? You did ask him, didn't you?

The perks arms race has been ongoing for years, the New Orleans event was of note a few years ago. Milwaukee used to offer a charter to The Open Championship, same thing. But a million in cash, if it's really happening, is a different thing. I don't see how Finchem can ignore this.
07.5.2012 | Unregistered CommenterDel the Funk
Can you get Phil on line one and Tiger on line two, then patch all three of us in?

Just wanted to thank both of you for taking care of AT&T this year, that should underpin and dovetail the secondary sponsors for years to come regarding those two events!

Now we've got some fish to fry, er, I mean platforms to solidify. I've talked with the Greenbrier friends and their willing to make an extra six year commitment to us. This would really help the board out, you see they can just stick my cash in my deferred annuity, and you guys can keep receiving it in the same manner as you do now. Are we all good on this?
07.5.2012 | Unregistered CommenterNSA
It would really aggravate me if I was a journeyman tour player who won this event but knew that millions in potential prize money instead went to Phil/Tiger/etc. to get them to show up.
07.5.2012 | Unregistered CommenterJim S
There's nothing wrong with appearance fees. If someone is willing to put up the money, it's a free market. It has no effect on the tournament. It would be better if the tour simply allowed it and called it what it is, instead of pretending that it doesn't exist. Players have always gotten fees for outings, dinner speeches & the like. The tour's denial is the only sad part...
07.5.2012 | Unregistered CommenterMarge Geneverra
So - appearance fees are against the rules. But the story says Tiger and Phil are getting them. Are they just flouting the rules? Is there a back door way that makes it work ? Phil's charity tourney is being sponsored by Justice - is that the way he's getting the $$ ? Is that wrong ? What if its not a written quid pro-quo, just an "understanding'? I guess those things are what would make me decide what to think about this ?
07.5.2012 | Unregistered CommenterBrianS
@ Marge Sorry but there is something wrong with it. It's not how the PGA Tour was built and if the Tour knows this is going on and allows it or looks the other way it could really lead to trouble down the road with other sponsors. I've got a feeling if some of the other sponsors, maybe fall series events, find out this is being done the way it sounds like its being done then they could say eff you, go find another sponsor. Remember what happened to the LPGA a few years ago when loyal sponsors said adios to Ms. Bivens? If guys like Jim Justice want Tiger and Phil to play then they should hire them as spokesmen and as part of the contract they play his event. But this hush hush bs is not cool. The Tour has to control what goes on and what is best for EVERYONE, all members, not just the stars.
07.5.2012 | Unregistered Commenterol Harv
No disrespect to the state of West Virginia, but I doubt many star tour players go out of their way to pop a trip to W. Va on the schedule just before a major championship. Between Miami, LA, Pebble, DC, etc. - I have a hard time thinking these guys are licking their chops for a stop in West. Virginia. At any rate, good for the Greenbrier. So what if they have to pay up for the big dogs. They clearly want the most competitive tournament with a good gate, so I say it's a shrewd investment on their part.

Good luck motivating Tiger and Phil to play well enough to make the cut. A cool mill for two days' work is some nice scratch. As for the tour, I'd like to see how much the gate brings in WTaP (WITH TIGER and PHIL) versus WoTaP (Without Tiger and Phil). I'd have to think the Greenbrier did a little cost-benefit analysis and the benefits (extra revenue) outweighed the cost (boring PGA event).

That course is pretty nasty though - a beauty of a track.
07.5.2012 | Unregistered CommenterGeoff Sand
"The Tour has to control what goes on and what is best for EVERYONE, all members, not just the stars. "

ha, ha...nice try...the Tour (finchem) gave up on that idea a long, long time ago....the stars run the show...big money runs the show...everyone else is just scrambling for what they can get...the PGA Tour turned it's back on it's small market roots a long time ago. Follow the MONEY.
07.5.2012 | Unregistered Commenterrb
PS...I see nothing about this topic over at Golf Channel.com website...how come?
07.5.2012 | Unregistered Commenterrb
So how do they legally do it? For the $1M last year, does Phil come back to the Greenbrier at some point during the year for some event? I realize no one wants to go on the record and piss of a player they are trying to draw to their event but how about asking Michelson or Woods about it directly?
07.5.2012 | Unregistered Commentermark
Unnamed sources that NAME others.
Yup, that's classy and courageous
07.5.2012 | Unregistered CommenterPat Burke
Tiger has gotten appearance fees overseas for yrs, he's rarely finished outside the top 10. Phil has also gotten appearance fees, his record isn't as good. Luke/Lee/Rory all get appearance fees. Most of these guys are professional and competitive enough to give their all regardless. Also this sort of understanding has existed on tour all the way back to Jack and Arnie. And you can't do the 1 in 4 thing anymore bc Finchem and the tour now have a billion stops, and have made a bunch of them must lay for the top guys, so they aren't spread around as much.

TV, sponsors, fans, the big purses all come bc of the top stars, it makes sense to pay them for the revenue they're generating If you're 97th on the money list, play better and become a star, or be thankful that you'll make close to a million dollars even though people barely know you exist.
07.5.2012 | Unregistered Commenterelf
Appearance fees, etc - one of the reasons I have no interest...zero...in most tour events. Can't even bother watching my DVR recordings anymore. I make an exception for the majors and a small handful of other events (LA, Pebble, Players, Ryder Cup and Presidents Cup).
07.5.2012 | Unregistered CommenterKevin part deux
Talk to New Zealand about Tiger Woodsl. He's about as popular there as anthrax.
07.5.2012 | Unregistered CommenterGhillie
'Appearance fees' have been paid in the States for ages-huge wads of cash for clinics and dinner appearances etc.Just that the Euro tour is more open about it.
Kevin, what is it about unknown and unstated appearance fees so offends your exquisite sense of honor that your would not watch a golf tournament unless it is a big event? Perhaps you just proved why sponsors try to give some extra dough to players. If it is an event you don't want to watch, why should Tiger and Phil bother to play?
07.6.2012 | Unregistered Commenterhawkie
If I was paying appearance fees, the player would need to appear on the weekend to earn their fee.

Steve, me thinks your sources want to remain unnamed because they know that what is being done is within the rules. Like I said, the playing field has never been level, tournaments do what they can inside the ruleset to attract players and differentiate themselves....
Ghillie. NZ is anthrax free and always has been.
Pray tell why Woods is about as popular as the above? I'm curious.
07.6.2012 | Unregistered Commentermetro18
Rex Hoggard mentioned it on GC's Morning Drive this morning...in so many words saying it was untrue.
07.6.2012 | Unregistered Commentergolfcarte
Woods got an extortionate appearance fee to play in NZ. To try to recover some of it, the NZ organisers planned to raise the price of admission by some staggering amount, and the country went ballistic -- it created a near-riot. Friends of mine who live there and have no interest in sport of any sort were caught up in it and sent me daily updates both from the press and anecdotal reports on radio coverage, personal; comments they heard, etc.

And Woods barely made the cut and never contended. If he had not played on the weekend, there would have been murder done.

He has never been asked back.

Meanwhile, in West Virginia.....absent a miracle, both the million dollar babies will have a free weekend. Why do I think that suits them both?
07.6.2012 | Unregistered CommenterGhillie
@golfcarte

Thanks for posting- Rex is actually a good replacement on this show, relatively speaking.

I put Steve's reputation and reporting ahead of Rex's anyday, as long as Rex is shilling for TGC. I like him, but TGC's staff seems to have papers on what/what not; very noted for mentioning somethng and attempting to make a joke, and move on.

As to ''sources'',being unname- welcome to the world, doubters. I guess yall would be on my list of someone to never tell a secret to. People reveal information because it matters, or maybe the have a vendetta,, or who knows? But the need to remain unnamed is for obvious reasons.
I'd place Steve E's sources over TCG pimping anyday.
07.6.2012 | Unregistered Commenterdigsouth
If not for "unnamed sources" very little news of any worth would ever surface. The suits in Ponte Vedra have loads of dough to engage lawyers to "discourage" named sources from talking - whether what they are talking about is true or not.
07.6.2012 | Unregistered CommenterPress Agent
Well, we surely hadn't considered Ponte Vedra a bastion of the first amendment, had we? We've already had their own amendment on racial policy this spring...

They might well adapt Dante and engrave it over their door: Abandon truth all ye who enter here.

I would certainly set more store by sources Steve Elling has already told us he vetted carefully than anything -- anything -- that came out of a mouth that is sourced at PV.
07.6.2012 | Unregistered CommenterGhillie
You can pay a golfer to appear, but you can't make him try. Phil T96, Tiger T89. With play suspended due to weather, Tiger may have to wait til Saturday morning to complete his appearance.
07.6.2012 | Unregistered CommenterEast End Golfer
What Walkie Talkie says above is true. Pros for years have gotten huge payments to give a dinner speech, run a 30 minute clinic, shake hands at a local company, or do other short visits during tournament week. Paid for by the sponsor. This is nothing new.

Call it what you want, but it is money for showing up. I see nothing wrong with that. As I said earlier, it's the PGA's pretending that it ain't so that is sad. The European Tour is up front about it.
07.6.2012 | Unregistered CommenterMarge Geneverra
I would never pay them to play Riviera. It's Hogan's Ally. Our tourney stands on it's own. Now I'd like to see those Irish players show up and show us what they've got at "Big Riv" Maybe a dozen of those S. Africans...I've got a few spots for those top Am's..Oh they turned pro..cancel that
07.6.2012 | Unregistered CommenterMike

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