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Entire Golf Digest 100 Greatest Now Posted

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Reader Comments (31)

Good to see Pine Valley back on top!
01.3.2013 | Unregistered CommenterStephen Speirs
After perusing this list I am embarassed to say that I am a GD rater.
01.3.2013 | Unregistered CommenterSun Mountain Man
Egad. This may be the most dubious ranking effort yet.
01.3.2013 | Unregistered CommenterGinGHIN
Whitten and Finch have officially created the lowest possible hurdle for rating and rankings. So many gaffes....so little time. Their little machination to release this early in order to steal the thunder from GM's Top 100 will likely prove a backfire.

Geoff, too bad you have to suffer these fools. Relegating LACC to 41 was pathetic. Trust me, GM's panelists like it much better than that.
01.3.2013 | Unregistered CommenterTalking Head
What's the difference between a "public" course and a "daily fee" course?
01.3.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
Talking Head: LACC moved up 6 spots and is the 41st best course in the United States, out of 18,000. That's not bad. If they purged the scores from pre-renovation it would have done better.

Agreed that Pine Valley moved back to #1 is a positive move.

There was some good on this list. Some dogs fell out and yet some others remain. How Alotian became #14 is mind boggling especially with Pinehurst falling.

Maidstone falling to #100 is not the right direction. Pasatiempo and Yale being excluded in favor of Black Rock or Gozzer Ranch shows the lack of knowledge of most panelists.
01.3.2013 | Unregistered CommenterJSS
Payola could be alive and well at GD. Do the GD "reviewers" pay to play?
01.3.2013 | Unregistered CommenterBobby D
Bobby D, as I think about it the silence is deafening....
01.3.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
At last I have a reason to go to Idaho:
http://www.gozzerranchclub.com/club/general_store/
01.3.2013 | Unregistered CommenterKLG
I have qualms about "resistance to scoring" being a valid factor.
01.3.2013 | Unregistered CommenterStreaky Putter
Wonder who 101 was?
01.3.2013 | Unregistered CommenterAverage Golfer
The Golf Digest list is a work of genius. Thanks again for this provocative list!
01.3.2013 | Unregistered Commentergczar
Check out this comical look at the Golf Digest criteria:

http://www.wegoblogger31.com/p/shot-values-stated-definition-how-well.html
01.3.2013 | Unregistered CommenterTB
Did not have a chance to look at the list but if the comment above is correct placing Maidstone at #100 something is wrong. The word "gem" is overused but Maidstone is exactly that. I have a feeling not many raters get on Maidstone and thus the "low" rank. I've been lucky to have played many of the typical top 100 and IMO they don't touch Maidstone or for that matter about ten others out on the Island.
01.3.2013 | Unregistered Commenterol Harv
I question how so many of Tillinghasts courses can still be considered "his" after so many revisions. I would also question how many are still great for anyone above a 10 handicapper. The subtle challenges and strategic values have been reduced to nothing in an effort to make them harder for major championships. What's left are many holes which are one dimensional with some fine greens and good routing.
Beat me about the head and neck if you like but just because they are old and Tilly's does not make them great anymore.
I guess I am saying that "classic course" bias exists even though several of these courses are no longer classics. I wonder if the members realize what has been lost in the pursuit of major championships?
That's my rant.
01.3.2013 | Unregistered CommenterKG
JSS,

LACC, post restoration, behind the likes of Murifield Village, Alotion, Olympic Lake, Castle Pines, Canyata, Oak Hill, Balty Lower, Medinah 3, Wade Hampton, and Whistling Straits........puhleeeze!! I could go on, but will leave it at its most glaring. Not purging scores that no longer remotely, let alone accurately, reflect the course is symptomatic of just how dated and out-of-touch this gang is.

I've played all the above, save for Canyata and none hold a candle to the shot values, routing and architecture found at LACC. How can a ranking legitimately elevate some courses for little more than excessive difficulty and punish others for purposely ignoring the pro game?? Pain over pleasure has its place, just not in the front rack.
01.3.2013 | Unregistered CommenterQuaker
Asserting the 5th here.
01.3.2013 | Registered CommenterGeoff
If anything the Golf Digest list is getting worse and I didn't think that was possible.

So many strange choices - Muirfield Village, Whistling Straits, Oak HIll and The Alotian in front of Prairie Dunes????

Castle Pines over LACC, and Pinhurst #2, and 32 spots in front of Plainfield?

How does Gozzer Ranch debut at 26 when it has been open for over 5 years?

No Yale?

Just remember Golf Digest once had Shadow Creek ranked #8 so perspective isn't GD's strong suit.
01.3.2013 | Unregistered CommenterGrey Lag
Any list that puts Ballyneal 20 spots behind Arcadia Bluffs is barely worthy of discussion. Not to mention the fact that there's a course which is vastly superior to Arcadia Bluffs roughly an hour away that doesn't even make the list. I don't mean to pick on AB, as it's a course I've enjoyed playing, but it's not in the same league as Ballyneal.
01.3.2013 | Unregistered CommenterSeitz
This list loses all creditability when you get to the 14th-16th ranked tracks, and only further infurriates as you continue thru top fifty. There have to be 10-12 courses in top fifty that have no business being there.
01.3.2013 | Unregistered CommenterBouje
Calusa Pines deserves to be higher IMHO!
01.4.2013 | Unregistered Commenterchico
I'm impressed that since 1989, more than 40 courses have been built that are superior to Yale, Sleepy Hollow, and The Creek. I need to get out more...
01.4.2013 | Unregistered Commenter3foot1
Add Camargo to the list of oversights...
01.4.2013 | Unregistered Commentercc-rider
ANGC first again in course conditioning when their own criteria is firm and fast? What about the infamous mud balls? From own experience, have played twice and it was no better than local muni, greens were slow and 12th green surrounded by dirt from creek to back bunkers and 13th tee? Frankly, I could care less what condition it is in during Masters when I can't play it.

GD has lost all credibility, methinks they tried too hard and have lost their way!
01.4.2013 | Unregistered CommenterHank
Nothing like a list to bring out the whiners. I mean, really, who cares? The raters do it because they are, by and large, complete access whores. They probably have to conform to the cultural expectations of the individual magazines, don't you think? Different publications have different mindsets (aka groupthink) and they come back with differing opinions. Just because most architecture-focused readers prefer the Golfweek koolaid doesn't mean that GD's pop doesn't have any credibility. Of course, the presence of Rich Harvest, a thoroughly goofy and in places unplayable course, doesn't help their stature, but everybody makes mistakes, after all! They're just trying to sell magazines, not impress the "What Would Donald Ross Do" crowd.
01.4.2013 | Unregistered Commentertlavin
@Seitz..... Going to play Arcadia this summer. What course do you speak of? I am not greatly familiar with many of the courses in that area.
01.4.2013 | Unregistered CommenterOWGR Fan
@OWGR Fan - Well, I tried not to mention it, but I'm referring to the Kingsley Club. You can shoot me an email if you want more information - wseitz@gmail.com.

I really did enjoy Arcadia Bluffs, and I'm sure you will too. It's just not better than Ballyneal at all, let alone 20 spots better.
01.4.2013 | Unregistered CommenterSeitz
@OWGR Fan - To clarify, since that didn't really come off the way I meant it: I'll probably be up there a bunch of times this summer. If you want to get over there to play, let me know.
01.4.2013 | Unregistered CommenterSeitz
I'm surprised Garden City hasn't had a single mention in this thread....
01.4.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
I find golf coursse rankings very interesting and look at them from all sources regularly. The primary use for me is that a course that is ranked in the list of GD, GW, or GM will be worth a play if I am on the road travelling for work which is way too common. But this is what I find amusing I collect logo balls of the courses I have played over the last five years, and when I am watching tv I enjoy looking at them and sorting them in order of what I think is best. I currently have 146 balls, I have probably sorted them all say 30 times and I gaurantee that not once has my order been even close to the same.

What is even more amusing in my mind is that the first logo ball I bought was from Pine Valley but here is the funny part. I played it the 2nd year I played golf and probably only had 20 rounds in my whole like before playing it. I absolutely hated the course. This was before I had ever read my first rankings. I doubt that I will ever get a chance to play there again, and it is sad that in my memory bank my opininon of the supposed number 1 course is not all that positive.

I guess my point is, if I can't even be consistent myself ranking courses how do we expect anyone else?
01.5.2013 | Unregistered CommenterAndy
Garden City.
01.5.2013 | Unregistered CommenterIronhead

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