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Tuesday
Feb052013

Vijay And Finchem To Meet In Land Of The Deer!

Golf Channel’s Todd Lewis confirmed the meeting somewhere on the Monterey Peninsula, according to Rex Hoggard.

He also reports that Vijay Singh's deer antler spray supplier made this statement to John Maginnes on Sirius/XM.

On Monday, S.W.A.T.S. founder Mitch Ross told John Maginnes on Sirus/XM Radio that, “Your body produces IGF-1 every day, it’s in food – meat and milk. You cannot ban a natural occurring substance. (Deer) antler velvet is not on any banned substance list, NFL, baseball, but it was on the (PGA Tour green sheet, Aug. 2011). I didn’t know this and either did Vijay.”

Doug Ferguson reports that reporters tried to get a comment from Singh.

Vijay Singh was leaving the practice range at Pebble Beach on Tuesday when one of the few reporters that has a working relationship with the Fijian called out to him. Singh looked at him, said nothing, and kept walking.

"So that would be no comment?" the reporter said.

"Yes," Singh replied.

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''You cannot ban a natural occurring substance''

This guy is dumber than dirt.
02.5.2013 | Unregistered Commenterdigsouth
You cannot ban a natural occurring substance''

This guy is dumber than dirt.

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well actually BO is trying to ban a natural occurring substance called crude oil and natural gas. VJ should get due process, come on
I don't like where this is headed...VJ may dodge a bullet and get off easy. I'm already starting to fume on the inside...

And by the way, Mr. Mitch antler-slayer Ross, EPO is also produced naturally by your body. That doesn't make blood doping legal.
02.6.2013 | Unregistered CommenterAlex H
and reefer is naturally occurring, too, and--
02.6.2013 | Unregistered CommenterLudell Hogwaller
It's all starting to look like Veej is getting a pass, classic American justice, the journeyman pro gets a year suspension, the HoFer gets a 1month suspension
Free Vijay!
02.6.2013 | Unregistered CommenterBobby D
The commish painted himself into a corner when he came down on Barron like a ton of bricks. He will ruin some shoes trying to get out of this corner..
Testosterone is naturally occurring, and banned in pretty much every sport.
02.6.2013 | Unregistered CommenterRoger
@ Ludell,

Reefer is naturally occurring in your body? Man, it must be fun to be you!
;-)
02.6.2013 | Unregistered CommenterPress Agent
Daly AND Duval both got the look this week ;0)

Vijay still listed in the starting field. In the spirit of USGA pairings maybe he could get in a practice round with Robert Garrigus and Matt Every!

Finchem's back room dealings and inconsistent fine/suspension distribution coming back to haunt him now -- clearly Calcavecchia suffered no ill effect so Commish's hands are tied.
02.6.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
Much ado about nothing.
02.6.2013 | Unregistered CommenterBuffett
Some interesting pairings out there...

The Great One & Jet Ski (assuming back holds up)

Tony Romo & Jordan Spieth

Condi & Jason Bohn

JP McManus & Paddy (back to defend)

...and then there's this doozy, I kid you not:

GARY MULE DEER & Andres Gonzales.


I think Vijay will be ok because he was only using the regular stuff. Now if he using the Mule Deer variety he might have a problem. Think Mr. Mule Deer will sit in to mediate between Vijay and Finchem?
02.6.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
I like Vijay, but when he does this to the press, ignore them, especially the rank and file that aren't out to get him, he's only hurting himself. I know he's issued a statement but give the guys something.
02.6.2013 | Unregistered Commenterol Harv
I see Rory just committed to Houston....the week after Bay Hill.

Looks like Arnold's little rant was all for naught. Puts Bay Hill in the *doesn't count* category again.
02.6.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
@DTF - what is your criteria for "Doesn't Count" ? With the Texas Open being the week before the Masters, my guess is guys will load up on Bay Hill and Houston, since no worries about burning out.
02.6.2013 | Unregistered CommenterBrianS
Well, BrianS, it's actually not my criteria, but rather the criteria foisted on us by a certain "expert" or two on the subject. By their estimation anything with less then 70 OWGR points going to the winner really does not *count*. The exception is Memorial and that's a case by case basis depending on whether the winner is deemed acceptable, and/or the Euro contingent is "tired" that week.

So there you have it.

As for Rory, he's playing Matchplay, Honda and Doral in succession (2 of 3 *count*). I suspect he will then take two weeks off, play Houston, and then skip the Texas Open and head over to Augusta. Last year Arnie called Rory out bigtime for not turning up at Bay Hill and I presume he figured that would be enough to get him there in 2013. TO me it looks unlikely that Rory will play Bay Hill but possibly I'm wrong. I'm sure the Houston commitment has raised eyebrows there at 9000 BHB and I feel certain they are plotting their strategy/response as we speak!
02.6.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
One thing before we start handing out suspensions: I would hope the tour tests the deer antler spray to make sure it actually contains IGF-1, like it claims it does, before we ban Vijay for ingesting it.
02.6.2013 | Unregistered Commenterelf
elf, guarantee that's gonna happen and think it's even odds that the 'Deer Spray" is nothing but colored water.
02.6.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
@elf...and the other thing is did they test the actual spray he used?...and how do they do that?...I mean don't these violations in other sports mean an athlete has failed a dope/drug/ped test? Has Vijay been tested and failed? I don't think so. He admitted spraying this stuff a while back but who really knows what was in it? If Calc walked for using the same stuff that tells me they really can't nail it down and the case is weak. To me this is another case "media gone" wild hoping for a story that is really much ado about nothing. But they have pages to fill.
02.6.2013 | Unregistered CommenterBobby D
So they threw Doug Barron under the bus...but wasn't he tested? I believe they found "excessive testosterone" or words to that effect. So the science was there to bail them out and they caved in...suspending the poor sap because "we have no choice...clear violation". I just don't see this in Vijay's case.
02.6.2013 | Unregistered CommenterBobby D
@Bobby, actually plenty of people in other sports have been suspended without testing positive. Lots of suspensions for having HGH delivered to the house
02.6.2013 | Unregistered Commenterelf
Like a good Cathlic, who goes to Hell for wishing he had bonked little Suzy on their date last nite- intent matters. If it is supposed to have bear whiz in the water, it matters not if it does not- GUILTY!

dEL, YOUR opps , your one man drive to reestablish a point guide base on ADG's drivel is all for knought. Like the bingo, it just hasn't taken hold.

BTW, ifyou've ever seen ''Tittie Bingo'' bumper stickers, they are for a band who never play, a friend of mine and some other Austin music ians, including one rather well known one, actually performed at Willies Picnic a few years ago, and to my knwledge, rode into the sunset.

Scfwe it , I xcant' tupe.
02.6.2013 | Unregistered Commenterdigsouth
The Tour must have some sort of written standard operating procedure by which it determines and applies appropriate penalties in this these situations.
Surely they don't do something this important on a case by case, person by person basis.
02.6.2013 | Unregistered CommenterOPGolfer
OPgolfer, we really don't even know how important it is, or isn't. The SWATS guys are selling magnets and snake oil out of their garage, who knows what's really in it. More and more I'm thinking there's nothing in it....it's a scam.

As for the case by case issue, Calcavecchia used the exact same product and received no penalty, so if they give Vijay penalty then we know for a fact that it's case by case, or if they don't penalize Vijay we are still left to wonder...
02.7.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
"it's a scam." The whole thing is an overblown joke.
02.7.2013 | Unregistered CommenterBobby D

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