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Thursday
Apr182013

No More Giant Rat On The Road: USGA Reaches Deal With Union

Jessica Parks reports that the USGA has reached a deal with two labor unions, ending their protests over the use of out-of-state labor.

This would also mean the end of the giant rat's presence welcoming folks along Haverford Road.

The carpenters will set up 160,000 square feet of flooring for the spectator tents and walkways, as well as decorative elements and other infrastructure, union spokesman Ed Coryell Jr. said. Stagehands will set up speaker systems, projection screens, and other entertainment elements.

The USGA's current contractor, Classic Tents, will finish putting up the giant white tents, which Coryell said "was a tough pill to swallow."

"We looked at it like, over 50 percent of the tents are already up," Coryell said Monday. "But we got to a point where we were losing work every day."

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Extortion.
04.18.2013 | Unregistered Commenterjoe
This will impact the decision to return.
04.18.2013 | Unregistered Commentersmails
"We were losing work everyday." Bullcrap!!! You weren't losing work because you never had work! There is no guarantee of anything in this country other than opportunity. If union labor were priced appropriately, the opportunity would be theirs.
04.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterChris from DE
Right on Chris! if i demanded double pay and less productivity i'd probably be less likely to be hired too. of course, pro union junkies will argue they only want their fair pay. the idea of what fair nowadays is so backwards. people want 'fair' without putting in the effort
04.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterBill
right...to....work
04.18.2013 | Unregistered Commentered
Chances are the same contract for man hours were handed over from Classic tents to union carpenters. Bill as long as the project is finished by desired date productivity per man is irrelevant to the purchaser. In order for contractors to keep their business profitable he hires slugs that give him less productivity? Bill if you owned a company and bid jobs and your employees were slugs would you keep them around? Union vs non union in bid work is pretty close to same cost, non union employers profit more as where union employees earn a better wage and less for employer. Its the city contract unions and similar that portray unions as slugs and costly. Apparently if you are employed in the field with physical labor your not allowed to earn a decent wage.
04.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterCarter Redbush
Hey carter? Get to the point! What's your point, anyway?
04.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterHey carter
I think Carter is of the camp that the union laborers should benefit more than the employer who employs them. That always seems to be the argument. Forget the guy who takes all of the risk and starts a company...he doesn't deserve anything. Let's make sure we redistribute the money he would earn under a non-union contract so that the laborers make $25/hour and have a pension and full health and dental.
04.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterChris from DE
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I--
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference. -

http://thecurrentmoment.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/productivity-and-real-wages.jpg

The BLS shows us why the 400 richest people in the US are worth more than the 180,000,000 at the bottom. Call me what you want, and you'll probably be right. But this divergence will be the death of the Game and Business of Golf. And a lot of other more important things.
04.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterKLG
I love the giant rat.
04.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterRickABQ
"Union vs non union in bid work is pretty close to same cost,"

BULLS---.
04.18.2013 | Unregistered Commentersmails
A hundred years ago good people died in support of the freedom to organize and collectively bargain with employers. It was finally recognized in federal law in the 1930s, but starting in the 1970s, large corporations realized that spending a lot of money on lawyers making every effort to use every available aspect of the law to negate or impede these rights was a terrific investment. Prior to that time, corporate decision makers grumbled about unions, but respected their role in the economy. It's tragic that this social consensus has been destroyed.
04.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterF. X. Flinn
"back in the 1970's"...Take off your bell bottoms, that was 40 years ago. Unions have grown to a point where they have plenty of lawyers and political power of their own. Problem is, the work can move to places like NC and GA where people don't feel the need for unions.

Detroit is bankrupt because of Unions. The auto industry is shell of its former self because of unions.

the US has outgrown the need for unions, but alas, they are still here, with their inflatable rats, holding on until the last gasp..
04.18.2013 | Unregistered Commentersmails
Smails,

You contend the USA has outgrown the need for unions. I suppose you're right if you think they were only needed to counterbalance the exploitation of manual laborers. But think about professional sports, where very highly skilled workers realized it was in their interests to unionize. Nothing wrong with that, right?

Also the contention that unions destroyed Detroit is a base canard. Detroit completely missed the opportunity to remain competitive in the 80s and Detroit paid the price. The unions weren't the ones designing the crap that wouldn't sell.
04.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterF. X. Flinn
"Problem is, the work can move to places like NC and GA where people don't feel the need for unions."

Judge, you need to update your perspective. Much of the work did move south. And it then kept right on going, to Mexico and other parts unknown. Then to Southeast Asia and China. The race to the bottom will never be won, because there is no apparent bottom. Those who support "the right to work" leave off two important words: "for less." And as for the UAW being responsible for the woes of the American automobile industry, I don't think Walter Reuther or Doug Fraser designed the Vega or the Pinto or the Gremlin. Or the top of the line Buick Electra 225 my grandmother bought in the early 1970s that came with a 12-month/12,000 mile warranty. And barely lasted that long. As I put it a few weeks ago, instead of GE, GM, Ford and thousands of other manufacturing companies, we now have WalMart. And people have been led to believe the good life lies in the ability to buy a dozen tube socks for $4.99. And the richest 400 Americans are still richer than the 180,000,000 poorest Americans. And Big Jack himself has learned that even the 1% eventually run out of the need for golf courses.

Note added in proof: Oops, sorry; work intruded on my commentary, again. What F.X. said.
04.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterKLG
Chris, I think your an idiot and Carter is right on the mark.
04.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterMiles Massey
Smails the unions destroyed Detroit? With their staggering 11.5% of the US workforce? A lot of bitterness towards unions and chances are most have never paid for a union service/product other than a bandwagon oops I mean automobile.
04.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterCarter Redbush
Ky,
Hurry up and announce the Shacklandia Masters, Atlanta regional qualifier, before the overseed intoxication wears off.
04.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterLudell Hogwaller
Well said KLG
04.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterSmithy
KLG, thank you for the cogent commentary. The textile and furniture manufacturers migrated to the states that were least labor friendly and WERE WIPED OUT as capitalists decided that child and slave labor is perfectly acceptable as long as white people aren't involved and it occurs outside our borders.

Unions aren't perfect and the public unions are the worst, but the amount of ignorance and sympathy with billionaires is staggering.

As my grandfather who was in the first wave at Normandy and also worked for Ford when they were they the last hold outs said,"in the 30s they busted the heads of union organizers and were successful. After Anzio and Iwo Jima and Normandy and Bastogne, we came back and said "bring on the goons because after we kill them, we will march into the neighborhoods and kill their employers. Result? Wages doubled between 1948 and 1973, then you baby boomer pusssies took charge and elected reagan and the rich took over."

RIP good man. And smails, what can I say that geoff won't censure me you #$$^%&#@#@.
My problem with unions is simply a matter of equal application of a principle (in this case the law).

A group of businessmen get together to discuss and fix prices, they are rightly arrested and charged with collusion.

A group of workers get together to discuss and fix prices (in this case they call it their compensation) and they get the government's backing.

I have little problem with the employees within the same company cooperating (as they do in their daily work) to get as good of pay as they can get, but when they start colluding with employees of other companies I find it a complete miscarriage of justice.
04.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterKRoper
That's right. Go back to the 1971 Lewis Powell. Pay to play, baby. Established the corporate lobby. It has everything to do with were we are now and how our laws are proposed/written/passed. Hell, it even directly impacts supreme court decisions brought by the court (no petitioner, from the justices themselves). FX is not referring to some abstract issue from 40 years ago.
04.19.2013 | Unregistered CommenterUbb
I make the argument that in 2013 unions have outlive their usefulness and i get back--the Vega, the Pinto, Walter Reuther, Lewis Powell, your mother's 225--in short,"That 70's Show"

I buy a union product every day. The DMV, public schools, they all suck where i live.

Every Union man, as he's fighting to retain this no co-pay healthcare and defined benefit pension plan, invokes the Pinto Defense--i did a great job but nobody wanted to buy those cars.--forgetting that unions fought the car companies all the way on changing work rules to improve quality.

Doug fraser did a great job helping Lee Iacocca fix Chrysler--after it got so bad the govt had to bail it out. Before that the UAW and the management engaged in mortal kombat. The guy at the UAW now did a great job on give backs--after his pension got moved ahead of creditors in line at the bankruptcy court

Nobody is defending the cars of the 70s (US or foreign) iam saying that right now, in 2013, all the Phila carpenters union does is shake people down with an inflatable rat.

there is no question asked of a union that is not met with "what do it get for that"

thae answer, sometimes, is that you get to survive. Nobody else "gets something" for changing with the times. We all have to add value to compete. Unions add nothing to that.

you guys seem to think 400 rich guys can be taxed to solve our problems. Or the negotiating strategy of a few thousand pro atheltes are a guide to solvng the problems of millions of unemployed. Good luck with it.
04.19.2013 | Unregistered Commentersmails
Smails, you do realize that bmws, mercedes, nissans, toyotas, hondas are all built by labor union employees in their respective countries don't you?

And you do realize that the 400 richest americans have more wealth than 60% of all americans, and you do realize that they are paying by far the lowest tax rates in 60 years right?

And you do realize you are an unwitting dupe who carries water for the people who shit on you right?
Yup-know all that. Thanks. If you want to compare the Honda union in Tokyo Japan to the UAW we can do that. Notice that the UAW's success at organizing these "transplants" has been, er, less than successful, and that these plants are located for the most part in right to work states.
04.19.2013 | Unregistered Commentersmails
And if you want to compare the typical CEO in Japan who makes 15 -20 times what the average employee makes to the 400 times the CEOs in the US make compared to the rank and file, we can do that too.
Ah, the truth comes out:

"he's fighting to retain this no co-pay healthcare and defined benefit pension plan"

Yes, he is. And she is. These are vital things that we could easily afford for every working man and woman and family in this country if the 100+% increase in productivity over the past 30-40 years had been shared with the working men and women in this country. The judge seems to be pissed above all that someone has something either he doesn't have or thinks that no one should have. This is not new. Back when I had a temporary union job that allowed me to send myself to college (try that now), the acquaintances I ate donuts with along with my father before we went to work where he was a longtime member of the International Chemical Workers Union resented the hell out of the fact that after 20 years he got 5 weeks of vacation a year, paid, while they were lucky to get 2 weeks, paid or not. And that a small defined benefit pension came with his job. And a good health insurance plan that meant that, while not "free," made a trip to the doctor a distinctly non-scary event in my family. Never occurred to them that these are things every working man and woman and family should have. This race to the bottom has been going on for a long time.

As for all those right-to-work auto plants, you are right, judge. The one I am most familiar with, in Georgetown, Kentucky, has the drill down pat. Many, if not most, of the employees are "contract" workers, well paid by local standards but with no health insurance, no retirement plan, no paid vacation, no sick leave. They are led on with the "promise," often empty, of a real job somewhere down the line if they demonstrate their worthiness. Or some similar horseshit. Toyota knows how to go with the labor flow. But the reason they still make cars that run 200,000 miles has little to do with unions and everything to do with engineering and quality control. But those seem to be slipping...
04.19.2013 | Unregistered CommenterKLG
Experienced unionized labor at its worst today.... Plane 40 minutes late leaving ground and 1hr 25mins late on touch down due to "game playing" by air traffic controllers. Perfect weather, scheduled departure before 8am, perfect conditions for an early arrival... But no, we get a ground hold and then put in a pattern/hold over Philly. Elapsed time for flight from LGA to NC, 3hrs 10mins. ("game playing" the words of the pilot)

This will be a big story before the end of the day. Screw the union!
04.22.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF

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