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Thursday
Apr252013

Quail Hollow To Feature Two One-Week-Old Resodded Greens

Even with the greens slated for conversion after the tournament, Quail Hollow has made the almost unheard of move to resod less than a week before Wells Fargo Championship play.

Ron Green Jr. with new details of the drastic efforts to make two of the worst greens at Quail Hollow playable.

“I’ve been doing this for 30 years and I’ve never done this,” said Cal Roth, senior vice president for agronomy for the PGA Tour. “We’ve had to patch parts of greens a lot of times but this is the first time we’ve done entire greens.”

On a course that is in spectacular condition otherwise, the eighth and 10th greens failed to respond to efforts to generate suitable grass cover. Several weeks ago, both greens were tented in an effort to generate growth. When it didn’t help the 10th green, it was resodded.

When the first resodding failed at No. 10, the decision was made to redo it, this time using a different cultivation approach.

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It will be interesting to see how good they can get them in such a short period of time, no expense will be spared. Forecast is cool and rainy, a continuation of the coldest spring I have ever seen in NC, and I have seen a lot of them.
Further proof of the accuracy of the prophesy contained in my documentary, "The Last Days of The Southern Bentgrassian Empire."

Come on over to the Ultra side, folks, it's pleasant over here.
04.26.2013 | Unregistered CommenterLudell Hogwaller
To echo Ludell, bentgrass has no future south of Washington DC. If any time in the last couple of years you built new greens or rebuilt greens in the SE and you didn't install ultra dwarfs, you were committing agronomic malpractice.
04.26.2013 | Unregistered Commenterotey
I agree, the Ultra's are incredible, but the Bent's have improved as well and problems can occur with the Ultra's. A few courses in NC that made the switch have had problems with the firmness of the greens. Way too hard/firm and cannot get it right. Overall though, they do seem like they are here to stay this time.
04.26.2013 | Unregistered Commenterol Harv
ol Harv: Firm? Sounds good to me. My regular, old fashioned Bermuda will get grainy later in the summer, but they stay very firm and are playable all year, including the winter when green dye is used in place of overseeding.. Our sister course a few miles to the north, but not the 500 it would take for Bent grass to grow, nevertheless has Bent greens. If grass had finger nails that's what it would use to hang on. Once in a while those greens can be smooth and fast. But they are never firm and sand-filled ball craters are everywhere. I think the roots go at least a half-inch deep. Ridiculous, but something the course management brags about.
04.26.2013 | Unregistered CommenterKLG
I can't believe they're going to play it so soon. Wow.
What about some of the Tifton turfs? They have some nice mixes thatvdoneell here in NC.

I'm with you No Longer, it's been a long cool spring.
04.26.2013 | Unregistered CommenterPete the Luddite
Ludell,
Didn't know you boys were managing Ultadwarfs at Rock Bottom Country Club, thought Mama was a Bentgrass gal.

Harv,
We Florida boys would be more than happy to show 'em how it's done.
04.26.2013 | Unregistered CommenterBrad S
Ultradwarfs= bermudagrass cultivars
Not
Ultadwarfs= mobile cosmetic stores
04.26.2013 | Unregistered CommenterBrad S
Brad,
Eagle since '99 when we built it. Momma spent too many years on thincross, crenshaw, southshore, A1, A4, on and on and . . .

I sympathize with the QH folks, that's a tough road.
04.26.2013 | Unregistered CommenterLudell Hogwaller
Someone please post a list of the field so I can find the player most likely to be the first to complain. If Mickelson's in the field, he's an automatic 2-to-5 favorite.
04.26.2013 | Unregistered Commenterrgw
@ 'Ol Harv Any new or rebuilt green is going to be firm or "hard" for at least a year to 18 months. They will soften a bit with time. But firm greens are healthier than soft, spongy ones for sure!

CCNC's newly sprigged Champion greens are very, very good. Played there just two days ago and they were in magnificent condition especially for this early in the year. Running 11'-12'. Pinehurst had the coldest March in 40 years and the Champion greens are nearly perfect.

Re: QH Word out of QH is that Johnny H had them take the new greens down way too eary for a private bash of his last fall. Not a good idea if that is fact, but the source is very, very reliable and close to the QH happenings.

Champion and Mini Verde are keepers! Have installed bothwith suceess.
04.26.2013 | Unregistered CommenterTheProfromDover
BTW, for the money they play for they should be willing to walk on glass bare-footed and putt on door mats! A little top-dressing and some paint --- only the shadow knows. They will make it look good for TV, damn the players!
04.26.2013 | Unregistered CommenterTheProfromDover
otey

Ultradwarfs are fantastic and my course is changing over this summer. But to suggest agronomic malpractice is a bit much. Ultradwarfs struggle in shade and many courses have several holes where they cannot cut down enough trees to meet the light requirements of the ultradwarf bermudas. Country Club of the South in Atlanta recently regrassed with bentgrass for this very reason--many trees were located off their property that they could not cut down and no professional with actual agronomic knowledge would have ever reccomended any ultradwarf bermuda in their case.

Also, seasonal courses open fall through srping (gosh, didn't one just host a big event last week) may be just fine with bent even in climates with hot and humid summers.

There is no silver bullet of grasses in the transition zone and if anyone thinks there is, they have drunk the lemonaide!
04.26.2013 | Unregistered CommenterChris C
Anyone know if Quail has SubAir?
04.26.2013 | Unregistered CommenterT$
@ChrisC
"But to suggest agronomic malpractice is a bit much."
There is a very fine line between malpractice and stupidity. One of the two is often inferred when it actually was the other one.
@T$ They do have SubAirs @ThePro All of their bashes are private. I do agree .. rollers and paint only the players and caddies will know.
Someday, shouldn't there be a strain of grass named after Crenshaw?

Or, perhaps, Willie Nelson?

For two different reasons, I trust....
04.26.2013 | Unregistered CommenterWillie
Ahh Charlotte NC and it myriad of turf issues.

I loved living down there, but optimal course conditions were limited to a few windows of maybe 3 or 4 weeks in the Spring and Fall. Was the usual bent greens/bermuda everywhere else. Bent greens can be maintained year round, but it costs an arm and a leg to keep em hard/fast when the heat index starts racing upwards.

Oh well...that's why they pay the experts to do the greenskeeping gig. It's not at all only about growing and mowing. It's a cross between science, religion, and alchemy. Hmm, maybe I'll sign up for a class in the future...always liked playing in the mud as well.
04.27.2013 | Unregistered Commenterjohnnnycz
Question to Johnny H: "And you want to be my PGA Host in 2017? " (sic Seinfeld)
04.27.2013 | Unregistered CommenterTheProfromDover
II built my own putting green about 3-4 years ago in NW CT. Bent grass with the poa moving in.I think I have created and invented"mistakes' never dreamed possible in this endeavor. Learning curve is coming around. I have a fantastic surface, aerate and top dress a lot. At Q Hollow, Mowing heights were probably the issue as when you mow low when it hot YOU ARE SCREWED. Then topdressing weak grass only hurts, unless you like a really sandy surface. The sand is great but I have found letting the cut go up really helps. Then bring it down slowly with roll/cut/roll.
I played a tournamnet on punched greens yesterday. Pretty much unplayable, too cold for the greens to heal this year with most nights in the low 30's. I had some 45 degree bounces. I am sure they will be way better than what we just experienced. Didn't greens used to be sand in some places.
04.30.2013 | Unregistered CommenterSTEPHEN PISCUSKAS

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