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Wednesday
May152013

Other Marshals: Tiger DID Speak To Us

Some marshals say Tiger never said a peep when trying to figure out when it was his turn to hit, but now Garry Smits talks to Brian Nedrich of Fleming Island and Lance Paczkowski of St. Augustine, who contradict the stories in Michael Bamberger's piece.

“It is not true and definitely unfair to Tiger,” said Nedrich, who was a marshal at the second hole. “That’s because I was the one Tiger heard say that Sergio had hit.”

Paczkowski, who walked with Woods all 18 holes with a team of escorts, said he even asked Woods if he needed any more fans moved.

“He said, ‘No ... I'm good,’” Paczkowski said. “We talk to players all the time, if we need to in regards to their needs and crowd control.”

The claim that Woods didn’t ask marshals whether Garcia had hit or not also is misleading because Woods never said he asked for help — only that he was told Garcia had hit.

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Uh oh, appears the previous Marshal isn't a Tiger fan and was looking for a little attention by saying Tiger was a liar. Busted.
05.15.2013 | Unregistered CommenterPuke Donald
Huh? That whole article is pointless. Nedrich said he told Tiger Sergio hit after he pulled his club. That means Tiger's explanation of why he pulled his club is a lie.

Tiger sycophants are a strange bunch. He's the rudest guy on Tour and yet they defend him to the death. Get off your knees, losers.

He is the greatest player ever, I will grant you that.
05.15.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDan
Why does all of this back and forth not surprise me?
Of course now the spotlight rests on individuals acquiring their requisite 15 minutes of fame.
Though the protagonists in our drama are offstage I am hopeful Mr. Davis and Co. pair them together June 13 and 14 at Merion. TV ratings will soar, top anything previous for rounds 1 and 2 of a pro golf event.
05.15.2013 | Unregistered Commentergov. lepetomane
Rex Hoggard on Morning Drive said he spoke with both North and Nedrich, North said he was closer to the fairway 20 feet away from Tiger and that Tiger could no have seen Sergio in the fairway he also said his statement was taken out of context. North also said that he felt that he was asked a hypothetical and responed(?).North said he did not talk to the other marshals on the hole. Nedrich says that Tiger overheard him taking to another marshal saying that Sregio had hit. The real question is did Bamberger ask North these questions? He declined to appear on Morning Drive request for an interview. Tiger Sergio deal with each other next time.
05.15.2013 | Unregistered CommenterJazzman
You'll never read this on espn, golf channel, etc. Better media sellers to hate on him. Video replay shows he checked with marshal.
05.15.2013 | Unregistered CommenterMaryfgolf
Enough already with this nonsense. Everyone just reads what he/she wants anyway, there is no right or wrong in this case or the ball drop. Please stop the wall-to-wall-coverage.
05.15.2013 | Unregistered CommenterRyan
Tiger should have been a soccer player. No need to bother with all these niceties.
05.15.2013 | Unregistered CommenterMrs. Mashie
Bamberger becoming the story again....imagine that.

Nice work Two-R's.
05.15.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
Lost I all this is that: 1. Sergio had time to back away when the Tiger fans started cheering. Watch the side by side videos. 2. Sergio could have mentioned the timing of the club pull to Tiger quietly while walking up the fairway. 3. Tiger could have said, "Sorry, my bad." I really don't think Tiger was aware of what happened at the time or did any thing deliberate. I think Sergio just needed an excuse for a crappy shot. (Something I often do when I hit a crappy shot) and once Sergio started whinning Tiger figured screw him.
05.15.2013 | Unregistered CommenterBob
With all the recording devices and social tech tools, there is still no definitive way to capture the truth. Maybe this is the case to allow spectators to bring their smartphones into the course. There would have been dozens of recordings.
05.15.2013 | Unregistered Commenterjohn
I thought pace of play dictated we should get ready to play while the others in the group are making their shot. "Be ready to play when it is your turn".
05.15.2013 | Unregistered Commenterdpete
DTF nailed it.

Alarming the increasing frequency with which such instances are happening.
05.15.2013 | Unregistered CommenterBetterThanMost
Bamberger and Sports Illustrated owe a retraction to Tiger Woods, talk about making something out of nothing. Next.
05.15.2013 | Unregistered CommenterMick
Marshal-gate! Let's have Darrell Issa investigate!
05.15.2013 | Unregistered CommenterThe O
Oh great thanks for being a complete loser at your job. Way to go Bamberger, TIger should call Vijays attorneys and sue you.
Tiger is definitely not the rudest player on TOUR. Not even close. He's quick with a compliment to his playing partners and keeps to himself if he's not friendly with them, but if he's friendly with them, he'll talk it up. It's ok to hate Tiger, but hate for real reasons, not perceived reasons.

I like Sergio, but he made a mountain out of a mole hill here. He's a mental midget who has convinced himself he's not good enough and that it's not his fault. He's the most entitled guy playing.
05.15.2013 | Unregistered CommenterChris from DE
What?!? This story doesn't exonerate Woods! Give me a break. These two keystone cops types who couldn't even get things straight at the scene! And now they are parsing details to conclude that Tiger's manipulation of the truth after the round was unintentional and should be downgraded to a careless fib rather than a lie? Good Lord!

“Tiger Woods did not lie,” Paczkowski said. “Was there a small mistake in what he remembered? Yes. But I don't think it rises to the level of lying.”

That's editorializing. His personal definition of what is lying and what is not lying. And, he's assuming there was a mistake in what Tiger remembered. Tiger Woods? The guy with the memory of an elephant? Who remembers the slightest of slights from years ago? If he can't remember something from a couple of hours previous, my opinion is that Tiger is playing dumb. In my opinion, this constitutes a lie. This nonsencical piece of lazy journalistic crap doesn't changd anything.

However, one insight from this is when the Nedrich character says: "It’s easy to get small details out of whack when things happen so fast." THAT's the argument against Casey Wittenberg for the 14th hole fiasco on Sunday!!!

Summary, Tiger lied on Saturday. Casey Wittenberg got the small details out of what when things happened so fast on Sunday. And, Tiger happily accepted Wittenberg's inability to get the details right when things were happening so fast.

Have a great day everybody, hope your all getting into summer form!

Sincerely, Tiger Hater
05.15.2013 | Unregistered CommenterTiger Hater
Bamberger owes Tiger an apology. But he won't say a word.
05.15.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDRM
I love how the morons here are suggeting we scrap the First Amendment and go after Bamberger.

It was John Anderson, the volunteer in the Bamaberger story, who was calling Tiger a liar.

Saying that the Bamberger should retract his story or that he should be sued shows you how many Tiger fans are really just f*cking idiots. Infringing on freedom of the press because people report on Tiger-related issue is completely f*cking stupid.

Smarten up people.
05.15.2013 | Unregistered CommenterRobert Foster
Robert, he is a reporter isn't he? Should have researched it more fully and he certainly COULD have researched it more fully. He chose not to do so. I don't believe Woods will sue him nor do I think Woods should sue him. But I do think he owes an apology to Woods. I just don't think it'll happen.
05.15.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDRM
why are Bamberger's articles titled "Bamberger"?

and they feature a picture of Bamberger or a video of him talking?

most writers title articles after the subject and feature pictures of said subject

Bamberger and Shipnuck have the same "MO"

seems like they are the story rather than the golfers they write about
05.15.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDaphne
Basically Bamberger was just trying to grab headlines, same as every other reporter. If you go back and look at what Tiger said about Sergio in the interview, it didn't seem to be that big a deal... until Sergio's interview when the reporter seemed to deliberately throw it Sergio's face to get a reaction out of him.
05.15.2013 | Unregistered Commenterhandbraketurn
So the marshal says he told Tigger to hit, when Sergio hadn't hit yet. WEll then - problem solved - fine the marshall - lol

as me ole' mum use to say - "Stuff" happens - suck it up - and move on!

Sergio didn't seem to let that bother him too much on Saturday, he was still tied for the lead.

Though he did put too many balls in the water on Sunday - so if that crap on Saturday (cry baby fuel) never happened it wouldn't have matered anyway
05.15.2013 | Unregistered Commenterhublet
Vote for the Chinese Comminist Party in 2016. They'll do away with the rule of law and finish Bamaberger off for you.
05.15.2013 | Unregistered CommenterVera GPS
This may be asking a lot, but do the fans have a responsibility to be respectful of the players, or is it their right to cheer wildly without regard for who may be preparing to play a shot?
05.15.2013 | Unregistered CommenterKelly Moran
Oh the Irony!!!!

Bamberger should apologize to Woods? If Woods apologized to Garcia on the 2nd hole, the issue would have died.

Tiger burnt the whole notion of apologizing at the Alter of Winning At All Costs.
05.15.2013 | Unregistered CommenterVera GPS
Vera, Woods didn't even know there WAS an issue on the 2nd hole because Sergio didn't tell him. Woods was in the trees and didn't see Sergio's reaction to the cheer. Instead of telling Tiger what happened when they walked to the 2nd green, Sergio went on national TV and complained about it.
05.15.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDRM
Maybe "Anonymous pro" can weigh in.
05.15.2013 | Unregistered Commenterjgw
DRM - Tiger's not that stupid.

But believe what you want.
05.15.2013 | Unregistered CommenterVera GPS
Oh that's right, he's an evil mastermind.
05.15.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDRM
Not sure why people are arguing so much. The incident confirmed what we already knew, namely Tiger's an asshole and Sergio's a baby. In golf, as in real life, guess who tends to do better?
05.15.2013 | Unregistered Commenterjgw
slow news week, coupled with a truly awful layout at dallas.......
05.15.2013 | Unregistered Commentersmails
4 outta 7 is good, no?
05.15.2013 | Unregistered Commenterf*cking idiot
Funny how when the thread paints a picture of Tiger as an inconsiderate A**hole....a hundred and change comments go up.
When the post paints him as a common golfer who plays the game with an equal amount of respect to his playing partners...we're nearly at 40 comments.

On another note I was there on Sunday and completely in awe of the level of epithets and negativity surrounding the leaders on Sunday...."go in the water", "Shank it!", "hit it in the trees", "Dont pull it!"...Completely disgusting behavior that I did not hear thrown around at other players...

Very disappointed the afluent crowd that was there treated TIger and Sergio(to a lesser degree) like Jackie Robinson's in 2013!!

Super-Impressed these guys can play at the level they do with the kinds of commentary they get before and after every shot....and you wonder why these guys dont acknowledge the crowd when they are playing until they walk up to the green on the 18th on the last day...

The kids were great, The teens were great, any country club kid that had all the opportunities in the world to before pro golfers and didnt amount to anything were the most bitter in the crowd that day.

I clapped for both Tiger and Sergio and Lingmerth and Wittenberg and any other person willing to put themselves out there and actually had to work for what they have achieved.
05.15.2013 | Unregistered CommenterChivo
Chivo - when Sergio dunked it, the crowd erupted with cheers.

When Tiger dunked it, there were a few gasps, but not cheers.

To suggest that the crowd was tougher on Tiger than Sergio is laughable.
05.15.2013 | Unregistered CommenterAziz
As was stated- Sergio could have stopped- he has addressed his ball, but could have easily stopped. Easily. Stopped.

Marshalls are being played.

This is a non story, yet again.
05.15.2013 | Unregistered Commenterdigsouth
Completely predictable. Every Woods controversy ends with some kind of blunting or reversal at the end, after meetings are held, etc. The fact is that he is meal ticket; he is product; and he cannot be allowed to be sullied.

You'll notice, conspicuously, that these people who allegedly back his story now did NOT come out with their story until the other guys said Woods never asked.

You may also not be aware that several in the crowd, including at least a couple who describe themselves as Tiger fans, have corroborated the fact that he did not ask.

And yet...we must get to the inevitable result: Woods has no character problem. Just like the Masters competition committee who violated Rule 33-7 to keep him in the tournament (check the April 2011 revision of that rule at the USGA website, before you go shooting your mouth off about how wrong I must be), just like the apologists for his betrayal and humiliation of his wife and children, just like the apologists for his regular on-course profanity (and the refusal of the Tour to fine him for endless violations of its own code of conduct and USGA etiquette rules on that point); and so on. It all goes to the same point: Tiger is money. He has fans. He is popular. Therefore, the end of the story is already written, always.
05.15.2013 | Unregistered Commenterstephenf
Aziz, read the comment again...this was with everyone. This was on every shot...17th of course. Did you forget the other 17 holes I was referring to? Sergio had it coming sure. But for 18 holes people are relentless.

NBC would like you to believe that the crowds are the crowds of the 1960s with their manners in check(please see any sappy piece about the PGA tours charity work). Wait a sec, they were behaving like a 1960s if a mixed race man was allowed to compete.

But by no means is this a new phenomenon(see Monty in the 90s, Mahan at the Ryder Cups,Greg Norman's interview on Feherty) , just an observation on the crazy behavior I wasnt expecting at a class tournament like this.
05.15.2013 | Unregistered CommenterChivo
Stephen, the story yesterday got a lot more attention than today's story. Whatever is reported first is almost always regarded as the "truth" in situations like this. So if you want to keep pushing a conspiracy theory, explain why the first story was calling him a liar while the second story (the one people won't pay as much attention to) is saying the opposite? Bamberger didn't speak to the other marshals. That's really all it comes down to.
05.15.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDRM
Chivo blame it on ESPN. They have brainwashed fans to act like a "fAN". That and Fans like to drink beer at 10am.

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