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Aug232013

Sherman's Look At Golf Channel's Player-Analysts

I know as Golf World subscribers you've already opened your magazines or your digital editions to Ed Sherman's behind-the-scenes look at Golf Channel's player-analysts, but just in case you haven't seen it here's the link.

Sherman has all sorts of fun behind-the-scenes detail and info on the cast of characters who, because of golf's longevity, are the expert analysts even though they haven't won majors. Also interesting in the story is learning why Golf Channel won't be leaning on the superstars that sports like the NFL or tennis can look to: golfers have much longer careers. The story also features backstage images from Bob Croslin and Dom Furore.

Oh, and you get to find out how much money they make! Only in Golf World!

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the link doesn't take you to the story, it takes you to a sign -up for GW
08.23.2013 | Unregistered CommenterMedia maven
Just click on the first hyperlink. It was a very interesting read but I think it could've been so much more. There was an opportunity to tell a really compelling story there but we got the cliff's notes version instead.

Maybe they will expand upon it, but I doubt it. These are the kinds of topics a lot of golf nuts (like GW subscribers) would love to read about. Real life aspects of playing and covering professional golf.
08.23.2013 | Unregistered CommenterChris from DE
Too bad they couldn't have gone deeper with Frank Nobilo. Talk about what could have been, talk about a great golf swing, talk about interesting. And now one of the best at what he does. IMO (uneducated as it may be) Frank's presence is a big part of what makes Brandel compelling.

Good article though. Ha, maybe one day Vijay will become a latter day Faldo, show everyone his jolly side. haha.
08.23.2013 | Unregistered CommenterNC Phyllis
Thoughts on the "he never won a major so he can't comment on me" idea. To mean, that's pretty lazy thinking - I'll accept any analysis that's reserached, honest and compelling. To me, it's childish of these playes to resort to that cliche, like saying a MLB manager can't be good b/c he wasn't good (or played) in the major leagues. The people who've absorbed the most are often who had to think about the game b/c they had less elite talent.
08.23.2013 | Unregistered CommenterStreaky Putter
SCan't access but curious: how much do they make? Be surprised if anyone's over $250K. They are all OK, but the whole GC vibe is just mediocrity personified.
08.23.2013 | Unregistered CommenterMedia maven
I can't get it to open either.
08.23.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDavidC
MM and DC, I couldn't open it using Safari, but Chrome worked fine...
08.23.2013 | Unregistered Commenterdbh
@MM -

Article said Chamblee with salary + endorsements around $1MM+, and the rest in six figures. If the Golf Channel is paying a lot for mediocrity, they are just like most of the other large businesses here in the US.

Anyone who thinks Notah Begay got the job because he was showing "real promise in the studio" and not because he was a friend of Tiger's, well, I want to drink what you're drinking.
08.23.2013 | Unregistered CommenterRickABQ
The link worked for me using Safari, but I hate Golf World's web presence. It's like trying to read a scanned book on line. If they are serious about on-line content, then they should get their act together and make viewing the articles web friendly.
08.23.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDale
RickABQ - you are spot on. Begay is simply horrible ! The worst of the lot by far - surely a Tiger plant. Then comes Faldo, with his snivelling commentary and uncomfortable humor. I cannot recall a single interesting thing that he has ever said. Seriously, they can't do better than Faldo ? Chamblee is excellent, as is Nobilo. I wish Johnny Miller was independent and could do every major. Miller, Chamblee and Nobilo would be amazing. I might even keep the sound on...
08.23.2013 | Unregistered CommenterAnguis
Agreed Dale, shut it down after one page. Nuisance format.
08.23.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
Faldo appears to be lazy as his commentary primarily consist of telling us what we just saw. Miller, love him or hate him, does some prep. I saw him at several Opens out on the course early, checking hole locations and determining the "Fall Line", or whatever it is he calls it. Not sure about the "grain goes to the setting sun", and Feherty said it's bunk last week on the Bermuda greens. Too bad he and Miller are on different networks for I believe he would have called Miller out, unlike "Rog". I think Chamblee and Nobilo together is compelling. Chamblee goes out and over the edge sometimes, backed with data, and Nobilo defends the conventional wisdom.
08.23.2013 | Unregistered CommenterMashie
Faldo's especially frustrating because when he's actually engaged in what's happening he can be incredibly astute. I thought his 2011 and 2012 Masters work was the best analyst work of anyone in recent memory.
The rest of the time he's just phoning it in. Vapid and 'funny'.
08.23.2013 | Unregistered Commenterdbh
I like Chamblee and Nobilo. They seem to be generally measured.

Does Mark Lye still work the Champions events on Golf Channel? I know he had some health issues.

In terms of anchors, I think GC really misses Kraig Kann. He always had a good tone. He might actually do a good job in the Hicks/Nantz lead chair.

Kenny V was the best. CBS has never filled his chair.
08.23.2013 | Unregistered CommenterTighthead
Am I the only one who likes Terry Gannon? He'd be great week in and week out. He and Rankin did really well together at the SC.

Agreed on Faldo. Totally phoning it in and always gets caught with a sandwich in his mouth.
08.23.2013 | Unregistered CommenterChris from DE
Nobilo is great...Chamblee, less so.

I wish we could get more of Jerry Foltz
08.23.2013 | Unregistered CommenterStanley Thompson
It sure would be interesting to see a full rundown of all their "talent'' and salaries. Figure most are six figure that's pretty broad. Chamblee sounds high unless he makes a lot from endorsements, doubt GC pays more than $500 K ...Feherty with his show probably makes a lot (not counting CBS)...even Matty G 100 . 150G?? the lower tier folks would be Jason Soebel and John Hawkins, who doesn't even appear on the air anymore...Jack Graham and Molly S. must pull in $300+ for being in charge, they just created a (non) position for Geoff Russell so he may not make much. I read somewhere Kelly T. took a big cut after they demoted her from tourney host job to studio work. Anybody got the goods??

PS I'd trade in at least half of 'em to bring back Peter Kessler.
08.23.2013 | Unregistered CommenterMedia maven
Chris, Gannon is good. I was thinking of the commentary folks rather than play by play. Folks who you want to hear opinion from. I always thought Trevino on NBC '83-'89 was a real surprise. It's amazing over, say, 50 years, how few really top fight 18th Hole commentators there have been. Kenny, Miller, Byron Nelson, Trevino, who else?
08.23.2013 | Unregistered CommenterMashie
Noblio is the only one who does not let his ego get in the way, he's the best on any network
08.23.2013 | Unregistered CommenterVwgolfer
Delighted, that's what I figured. Salaries are rarely revealed. And six figures is nuthin' in TV, probably what a TV newscaster makes in a middling market.
08.23.2013 | Unregistered CommenterMedia maven
Henry Longhurst, John Doerr, Ken Venturi, Byron Nelson, Pat Summerall, Jack Whitaker.........Start with this list and see if any of the current 'talking heads' can crack the line up based on pure skills. Might be 1 or 2, but not many. Most are too rehearsed. Vern Lundquist is darn good. Underrated perhaps.
@Pro, I can't believe Verne Lundquist is still around - I mean, I'm practically middle-aged now, and I was a mere 10-year-old boy when I was hooked for life with this game watching the ´86 Masters. I got the Sky feed with Peter Alliss and Tony Jacklin on VHS (which laid the foundation for my career as an English teacher), but Verne's imposing, resonant baritone came through on occasion, calling the 17th hole. Hearing the sound of his voice in my head as I type this, he still sounds about ten feet tall. The golden throat, indeed.
08.24.2013 | Unregistered CommenterHawkeye
@ Hawkeye, Lundquist is certainly still around. You are correct about his voice. BTW, John Doerr lives in Pinehurst, is 93-94, still plays 3 times a week. I remember him when he was doing the Masters. Brilliant man.
Most of the points I wanted to make were covered already. I am generally not a fan of Golf channel analysts. Nobilo is the best of a mediocre bunch. Chamblee is full of himself and his opinions are just that, not facts, but he believes they are gospel. I am not a fan of his, although I am glad that he will take on Tiger occasionally. That is rare for GC.

I can't stand Rymer, in any format, wish he would find another job. Isenhour had promise, I thought, but lately he has been loudmouthed and irritating. GC's on-air talent has expanded in numbers in the last couple of years but the quality is just not there. Ryan Burr is extremely irritating. Whit Watson is a bit better but still not a favorite. Lara Baldisseri is a bit stagey. Tilghman remains not good. They make Lerner look good. I also miss Kraig Kann greatly. He was their best. Now they have the plastic Holly Sonders. Good lord.

They do have some good talent for tournament work. Terry Gannon is excellent. Brian Hammons has transitioned into a pretty effective PxP man. Foltz is good on-course, and yesterday Steve Burkowski did one of the better post-round Tiger interviews I have seen. Steve Sands is also very good and perhaps the closest to taking Kann's place. They virtually ignore the talents of Mike Ritz, who is still quite good but almost invisible. They also use Peter Oosterhuis on tournament,, which adds some credibility.
08.24.2013 | Unregistered CommenterGreg B.
Greg B, are you me?
08.24.2013 | Unregistered Commentertour caddy 60
My favorite Faldo on air call on a 5' missed putt, "he's either pushed it or miss read it." Can hear hand hit forehead from other room.
08.25.2013 | Unregistered CommenterCarter Redbush

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