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Aug292013

Stevie: All's Well With Tiger (*&^%$ Ass) And Phil ($%&^*)

If you were looking for a good laugh to break the withering playoff tension bound to envelop Friday and Saturday's Tiger-Phil-Adam pairing at the Deutsche Bank Championship, Robert Lusetich has the story of Adam Scott looper Stevie Williams, new pal of Tiger Woods and Phil Mickelson.

Or so he says.

You may recall Stevie used a less than flattering bit of imagery while suggesting that he would like to insert something into Tiger. And with Phil he just went with the more succinct "prick" description.

The Stevie-Tiger make-up story started at Merion where Stevie says he sensed that his presence made Tiger "uncomfortable," so feeling the pain and concern for his former mate, decided at Muirfield during the final round--and what better time to chum it up than during a major final round--Stevie talked auto racing with Tiger on the 8th hole. Voila! They've been exchanging loving glances ever since.

“When I used to caddie for him I’d watch it at (their rented home) and after a while he started watching with me and getting into it.”

They engaged in small talk; as often is the case in such situations, the subject wasn’t important.

“He asked me how the family was and I did the same. We just talked, you know,” Williams said.

“At some point in time, I just felt we had to break the ice."

As for Phil, all Stevie said is they are "all good."

Call me skeptical...

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Good to see - no room for hatred on the tour.
08.29.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDonald Luke
Might a swap be in the works?
08.29.2013 | Unregistered CommenterPeterson & Kekich
It does seem crazy that you would try and resolve personal issues in the middle of the final round of the Open.
08.29.2013 | Unregistered CommenterBrianS
I could be wrong but didn't Scott just make about a 50 footer for birdie on 7 and Tiger missed a 6 footer on the same line? So either Williams wanted to rub it in or we take him at his word and he thought his presence was making Tiger feel uncomfortable and he decided to end it? (Didn't help Tiger ....... or Scott!),

Interesting, though. I'd bet Tiger would want Williams back on the bag. Joey's a nice guy but he's not going to help him win a major by handing him a club and raking bunkers.
08.29.2013 | Unregistered CommenterAK47
They all made a lot of money for each other. Not suprising once the emotion wore off they are cool about it.

But the fact remains, money won is twice as sweet as money earned.
08.29.2013 | Unregistered CommenterStreaky Putter
There are caddies and there are golfers. Personally, I prefer to watch the golfers.
08.29.2013 | Unregistered CommenterHBL
Williams probably didn't personally witness the secrets hidden by Tiger, but he probably has enough dots to connect which could make for some explosive reading. No wonder Tiger feels uncomfortable around Williams.

Without a non-disclosure agreement, it is kind of like Williams escaped Davy Jones' locker.
08.29.2013 | Unregistered CommenterCassie
Not sure either Woods or Williams endear themselves to many.



As Haney pondered constantly throught 'The Big Miss'; 'was friendship ever an option'?
08.29.2013 | Unregistered Commenterthe baron
D'ya get the feeling someone in the pairings office doesn't quite buy Tiger's act any more? Talk about shoving him in with his two favourite people for two days when he's allegedly injured...
08.29.2013 | Unregistered CommenterGhillie
I'd love to know more about how that pairing came about. I haven't checked the lineup--are any others touched with mischief or particular significance?
08.29.2013 | Unregistered CommenterPasaplayer
Pairing made by the FedExCup points list.
08.29.2013 | Registered CommenterGeoff
Sans socket Steve Williams would never consider writing a tell all.
08.30.2013 | Unregistered CommenterBuck
Earlier this year Williams said that his life as a tour caddie is winding down and "at most" he would stay on Adam's bag for another season, maybe 2 seasons tops... maybe he's getting soft now knowing that this part of his life is coming to a close and he doesn't want to leave on bad terms with anyone.

I don't particularly care for Steve Williams, but if he genuinely feels the need to make amends with a few people before he exits, good for him. Who cares what other people think.
08.30.2013 | Unregistered CommenterPA PLAYA
PA PLAYA I get the idea Stevie cares how he looks but is arrogant enough to think if he talks to the media the people willl side with him.
08.30.2013 | Unregistered CommenterPABoy
PABoy, I just think it's the media doing what they do. I doubt that Steve Williams lobbied a reporter to do an interview with him, but him being who he is - which is honest about speaking his mind if nothing else - the media always know they have a story there when it's obvious they can't find anything else to talk about.

And if the story just so happens to make him look a little less prick-ish, all the better. He certainly wouldn't be the first figure in golf to exploit that approach, his former employer was an expert in that department until the intercepted text and fire hydrant thing happened.
08.30.2013 | Unregistered CommenterPA PLAYA
Ya never know, Tiger may have a little dirt on Stevie, which could be why a "tell all" isn't on Amazon
Nice to see the kids getting along better while playing a game for a living. Wake me when they go out on a bender or perhaps a sleepover on Tiger's boat.
08.30.2013 | Unregistered Commenterjohnnnycz
No LIVE@ coverage this morning?
08.30.2013 | Unregistered CommenterAL P
Just wondering...where's the Web.com finals coverage Geoff? Looking at the leaderboard, it appears some former major and Tour winners might be having a tough time keeping their "job" next year so to speak. I actually find this almost as interesting as the Re-set Cup thingy. And the scores are pretty low....-3 is only 25th-ish...hardest money in golf on that tour IMO.
08.30.2013 | Unregistered Commenterjohnnnycz
Haney wrote, “As much as he didn’t want to, Tiger first called Steve’s wife, Kirsty, in New Zealand. Kirsty was a good friend of Elin’s, so Tiger knew the conversation was going to be uncomfortable.”

Haney wrote that “Tiger said he told her that Steve was blameless. He also tried to get her to understand that his actions hadn’t been aimed at Elin, but instead were a compulsion that had gotten out of control.”

Despite the gesture, Haney wrote that fences weren’t mended quite as well as anyone had hoped.

“I asked Tiger how the conversation went, and he shook his head. ‘I don’t know,’ he said. ‘She was still mad, and she didn’t really understand,’” Haney wrote.

(Note: note to male readers, women don't automatically get "un-mad" over things like this - and to say that she didn't really understand, she likely got a whole lot madder)
08.30.2013 | Unregistered CommenterVera GPS
But Steve has won all those majors including the Masters this year!
08.30.2013 | Unregistered CommenterThe O
Pairings are in FEDEX points order, I believe.

No sinister action here.
08.30.2013 | Unregistered Commenterdigsouth
Philly just hung a 28 on the front side. So the pairing isn't bothering him
Just looked at the scores. A bit of a "in-your-face" round by Lefty. But hey, they are friends ;-)
08.30.2013 | Unregistered CommenterD. maculata
In that case, Fate is having a laugh at Tiger. There are Greek tragedies on similar themes!
08.30.2013 | Unregistered CommenterGhillie
Think Phil frames a banner and hangs it in the hall for an in your face round?
08.30.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
As for Phil's 28... It was, clearly, "out there"
08.30.2013 | Unregistered CommenterBG1
I'm not sure, DTF. Sounds like something only a p*%k would do so we'll have to depend on a report from Stevie. Knowing its Phil though, he's just as apt to follow it with something 10 to 15 strokes higher.
08.30.2013 | Unregistered CommenterD. maculata
D. mac....LOL there ;) Playing the Red today with a real Tiger disliker (just this side of hate) and when Phil was up 6-shots after #11 tried to get him to take Phil and give me 3-1 vs. Tiger on low score at the conclusion on Monday...he wasn't a buyer, not even for a fiver.
08.30.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
Yo, Del the Factual,
You're hep there was a direct reference in the latest SoG to one on of your more hater-y posts, right? The one where the world #3 set a bunch of facts straight and took you to task in the bargain?

SoG:
http://www.geoffshackelford.com/homepage/2013/8/26/state-of-the-game-podcast-24-catching-up.html

Comment in question:
http://www.geoffshackelford.com/homepage/2013/7/23/phil-frankenwood-and-a-strategy-that-paid-off.html#comment20195980
08.30.2013 | Unregistered Commenterdbh
I've played both the Red and the Black on a few occasions, and I'd argue that if you could find 400 additional yards there on the Red - it would play just as tough as the Black. Maybe even tougher.
08.30.2013 | Unregistered CommenterPA PLAYA
dbh, my post was tongue in cheek and if you think "No one has ever referred to me with that. Either in front of me or behind my back." you're kidding yourself just as much as he is!
08.30.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
PA PLAYA, we absolutely love the Red. Our group is ambivalent between Red and Black and if forced to pick one of them to to play every day forever we'd probably go with Red. Not sure when you last played it but there are some back tees that are newish or rarely used on 8, 11 & 14, and plenty of room to add on lots of other holes as well. The card says 7,092 from the back but I'm not so sure all the existing tees are reflected on that card.

Having said all that, the Black is a brute. Red can certainly be set up to challenge the best but not sure how they'd get it to play harder than Black!

Black is in great shape right now.
08.30.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
Del, revisit my phrasing: 'the world #3 set a bunch of facts straight and took you to task in the bargain'.
Any hoo, tongue in cheek, huh? Okie dokie...
08.30.2013 | Unregistered Commenterdbh
Red has too many doglegs.that being said, no.5, 12, 14, and the green on 6 can rival anything on the black. The Par 3's are not very interesting. It would make a great course for the LPGA.
08.30.2013 | Unregistered Commentervwgolfer
dbh, if there's something specific you'd like to discuss or debate just let me know.
08.30.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
vw, spot on about #6 green -- vexing is the word that comes to mind.
08.30.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
Is Red in as good or close to as Black?
08.30.2013 | Unregistered CommenterAmen Coroner
Having played both the Red and Black about 4x each, which obviously isn't near enough to qualify more than just an initial impression really... I found the Black more difficult only because of the bunkering and length. I actually had to work the ball much more playing the Red. The first time I ever played the Black we played the tournament tees a few weeks after the first US Open... played the last two holes at +5 (plugged lie on the 17th didn't help) and still managed to shoot 80. A few months later I played the Red and shot 76 because the greens were slow and bumpy... but all in all two very good courses that I look forward to making the trip up to play a few times each season. The Red is certainly no slouch. Someone said it would be a good LPGA setup and I would agree with that.
08.31.2013 | Unregistered CommenterPA PLAYA
PA Playa we should set up a Mid Atlanic Shack Open in our home state this fall. U in?

aflaish@hotmail.com
08.31.2013 | Unregistered CommenterAmen Coroner

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