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Jul152014

And Then Gary Woodland Told Tiger How He's Back To Carrying His Drives 320 Yards, Files...

From Tiger's press conference today at Royal Liverpool, where Ryan Herrington analyzes the Hoylake defending champ's remarks.

This was a fun story for the roll-back-the-ball files:

Q. Secondly, is it harder for you to win a Major now than it was eight years ago? If so, why, what makes it harder?

TIGER WOODS: I think it gets harder every year, just because the fields get deeper. More guys with a chance to win. What did we have, 16, 17 straight first-time winners and more Major championship winners throughout that stretch. It's just getting deeper. It's getting harder to win. The margin is so much smaller. It's only going to continue to be the case. Guys are going to get longer, they're going to get faster. Guys who are coming out here are bigger, stronger, faster, more athletic. When I first came out here in '97, I think, I averaged somewhere just under 300 yards, 296 or something like that. I walked around with Gary Woodland on Sunday and he said, "Yeah, I finally found a driver and a ball I can hit 320 again in the air." Yeah, in the air. So the game has changed a lot since then.

Here's about four minutes of Tiger talking to the scribes today.

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So Gary was able to find a driver that hits it 320 on the fly. Can he tell me where I can purchase this driver?
07.15.2014 | Unregistered CommenterThe O
I wish I could get his time the gym working out.
Engineers were put on notice by USGA/R&A to stop making progress when Kessler was fired from the Golf Channel.
07.15.2014 | Unregistered CommenterBlue Canyon
@ O You would need the know-how to operate it as well. Airplanes can go Mach I but the pilot has to know how to fly it! LOL
Sounds like Gary Woodland became much stronger having walked around the Callaway fitting center until " Yeah, I finally found a driver and a ball I can hit 320 again in the air."

I wonder if he even had to walk 320 yards to become more fit.
07.15.2014 | Unregistered CommenterJohn Stiles
Something I think I read once was how the pros can legally get nonconforming drivers. Inevitably there is variation in manufacturing processes, so that some drivers will be manufactured "out of tolerance."

I don't know the tolerances (ie variation) of machines used to manufacture drivers so I don't know how far out of tolerance a "magic driver" might be; my question is, do the tours / administrators spot-test drivers during tournaments? Do they pull a player's driver and test it?

And, no, I'm not accusing Woodland of cheating or even of playing with a nonconforming driver.
07.15.2014 | Unregistered CommenterMark B
Tiger seems to be in complete denial about the fact that he sucks with a putter in his hands.
07.15.2014 | Unregistered Commentergreg c
greg c

What in the world does Woodland's driver have anything to do with Tiger's putter?
he was simply making a comment alluding to the strength of field out there today.

You are just a hater.
07.15.2014 | Unregistered CommenterStanley Thompson
It's getting harder because Tiger is getting older. Simple as that.
07.15.2014 | Unregistered CommenterEasingwold
Memo to Mr. Tiger:

It is harder for you to win a major because you are not as good as you were.
07.15.2014 | Unregistered CommenterAbu Dhabi Golfer
Not a hater but isn't this Tiger talk just nonsense? As usual he said virtually nothing yet the press dissect and analyze his every word.
07.15.2014 | Unregistered CommenterCarmel
Missed the presser.

Kinda surprised no one (at least in the Brit press) mentioned the upcoming book about You-Know-What with Dr. You-Know-Who.
07.15.2014 | Unregistered CommenterWillie
So, how far should Gary Woodland be able to fly it?

If you assume the same efficiency (or smash factor).
What ratio of clubhead speed to ball speed IS acceptable for those wanting a roll back?

After testing 3 weeks ago,
I know that Keegan Bradley has 15-18mph more than I do with a 6 iron. We hit the same model irons.
I fly my 6 iron 166. Obviously he hits his 6 iron stupidly further than I do. But shouldn't he?

BTW He has 20 MPH more with driver. My carry yardage in testing is about 258
07.15.2014 | Unregistered Commenterquestioning
One of the longest hitters on tour, yet ranked 146th in putting, is elated that he found a club that can enable him to hit the ball 20 yards further.

Sounds like a guy I play with on the weekends.
07.15.2014 | Unregistered CommenterPA PLAYA
' PA PLAYA - Exactly - I was at Augusta in 2011 and watched Woodland on the range pitch his three wood where Mickelson was pitching his driver.

I've been waiting for Gary to win ever since - it was like watching a 3 star Michelin chef cook the most exquisite meal and then try to deliver the plate to your table, only to trip up and throw it the food against the wall.
07.15.2014 | Unregistered Commentermehstg
Anyone waiting for Woodland should bring a book.
07.15.2014 | Unregistered CommenterAG
If there were only some secret, magical chemical compound that Tiger could take to help him get stronger so he could keep up.

Naw, that would not be sportsmanlike or gentlemanly, and if Eldrick is known for anything, he is known for being a gentleman.

How about a Fresca?
Tiger needs more of the feels and then some more reps. Then some more feels. THen some more reps. More feels. more reps. FEELS. REPS. FEELS. REPS. FEELS. REPS. Then after that REPS. FEELS. REPS. FEELS. REPS. FEELS. Ooooops missed that putt.
07.15.2014 | Unregistered Commenterv60golfer
As far as I can tell, doesn't really matter whether the player is stronger, taller, faster than in the past. The question is, as it has always been, how many strokes does it take the player to get the ball in the hole. Woodland is stooooopid long, but as PA P says, sucks as a putter. Give me someone who knows their game, plays to their strengths, avoids mistakes and can roll the rock and I'll put my money on him. Sort of like all of the Greats of the game...and Woodland ain't one of them (no disrespect intended).
07.15.2014 | Unregistered Commentermeefer
Wow! Geoff's wonderful comment board has turned into a collection of all the thick geared out fools who blather endlessly about smash factor. Clearly the ball goes too far. Any normal PGA event is simply driver wedge putter. Was the game supposed to be played with three clubs? The courses can't be stretched any further. Whether its through increased fitness, which it clearly isn't as anyone can see who looks at a graph of driving distances through the years, or technology is irrelevant. When players can hit 430 yard drives like Rory did last week and others fly it 320 its time to dial it back. People who enjoy this grip and rip it mentality are more suited for long drive competitions than actual golf. You are not supposed to be able to drive every green. Long iron and fairway wood shots into greens are some of the most exhilarating shots in the game. Remember Jack's one iron on 17 at Pebble?
07.15.2014 | Unregistered CommenterIan McAllister
Ian- Faldo's 2 iron into 13 at Augusta absolute class. According to this tears field it isnt safe to go into that green with anything more than a 7 iron!
07.16.2014 | Unregistered CommenterChico
Years!
07.16.2014 | Unregistered CommenterChico
Yeah, but Faldo was just a skinny little dude who had to come out of his shoes to hit that 2-iron at the 13th (the best shot I have ever seen on the TV machine). These new guys are so much stronger!

PA PLAYA +1
07.16.2014 | Unregistered CommenterKLG
Is it me or has Tigers head become a bit bigger ala Barry Bonds ?
Ian,
Suppose you are talking about my post. Trying to play competitively in my old guys world,
I struggled to find clubs I could control.
I learned a lot recently about my own issues, which led to my post.
The heart of my post was not to challenge the "ball goes too far" mantra.
It was to ask what is acceptable.
I'm for a roll back btw. But across the board. Not a "tournament" ball.
07.16.2014 | Unregistered Commenterquestioning
Ho Chi Chi Vinh Mink

Could they have something else in common (besides being friendly and faithful)?

How about a Fresca?
Yep. They both did it their way while the little unathletic nerds who cant do anything near as great try to bring them down. They couldnt stop Ali either.
07.16.2014 | Unregistered CommenterEnigma

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