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Aug042014

Forest Dunes: Doak & Crew To Design Reversible Course

The course will be added to Forest Dunes and according to the press release, Renaissance Golf Design and Tom Doak plan to build a reversible course ala the Old Course. Only that happened mostly by accident.

This sounds like a complicated but potentially exciting undertaking:

“This is a concept I have thought about for 30 years,” Doak said. “You need the right site and the right client to understand the appeal of it. At Forest Dunes we finally have both.”

Doak said when he first met Forest Dunes’ owner, Lew Thompson, an Arkansas-based trucking magnate, Thompson said he wanted a new course but it had to “wow” him.

Thompson wanted a second course that would keep golfers staying on the property an extra night or two after they had played the club’s Tom Weiskopf course, already ranked by national magazines in the Top 100 best courses in America.

The double dose of Doak should accomplish both of those goals.

“The appeal of a reversible course is people would want to play it both ways. You are getting two golf courses in one,” Doak said.

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Sounds like the same concept that Robert Trent Jones II suggested in Brazil for the O-Games. Guess nothing's really new.
08.4.2014 | Unregistered CommenterTillinghast
Hey Tillinghast you didn't once get OTM to sign a sketch in the scores hotel did you? Yes it sure reminds me of some course..I wish I could remember where?


As Doak has written the problem is one routing will be better than the other. Why then continue with two? still it's a brave and interesting concept and I wish them luck.
08.4.2014 | Unregistered CommenterBelowpar
I grew up playing one of these. While one direction was possibly better than the other it was at least debatable to us. That and some holes will be really fun even if the entire 9 isn't quite as good as the other.
I think if you have great architects and great land it's a great idea.
08.5.2014 | Unregistered CommenterRoss
Reverse course - the 19th Century Designers achieved that with a fair degree of success - certainly at TOC, but do the modern designers possess that drive even that ability of the design as many leave it to others or their team to develop.

Reverse Design starts with a good to fair routing concept in the first place, thus allowing the reverse to slot in, however will this effort resort to the modern trend of shaping the Earth or will Mother Nature be allow not just a say but a design input too - failure to take into account the moods of Nature could cast the whole project and its future survival into the ether or the bankers pockets.

Lessons from the past may be the first port of call in moving forward - a sort of 'Back to The Future'.
My only question is will Tom be able to withstand the criticism of anyone should they find one direction "better than the other one?" Or, will his head explode as he describes how "no one else understands the game as well as he does?"
08.5.2014 | Unregistered CommenterTalking Head
@Belowpar

Was that not a below par comment to make as you have not it seems thrown your hat (real name) into the debate.

That's not a criticism but a question.
Does it start and finish AND start and finish at the clubhouse?
08.5.2014 | Unregistered CommenterHarrison
It sounds hinky to me, but I have no past experience with it. Therefore, I would be open to trying it.
Why not construct a couple of nice, large, undulating greens with bunkers strategically place around them. Then pick 9 different directions to approach each - like hands on a clock. Build teeing grounds. Voila! Eighteen holes. Maintenance on only two greens. A bit more walking (if one walks) but not more than the usual layout for many subdivisions where some of the tees are 1/2 mile from the previous green.
08.5.2014 | Unregistered Commentergov. lepetomane
I have designed two of them. Both are still unbuilt. Both at private clubs.
08.5.2014 | Unregistered CommenterLester
Let's have play both ways tt all times, thus offering the long awaited opportunity for god to have ''offense and defense'', as one hits, and then picks up their adjustable TaylorMade 'trash can lid'' shield to protect from balls coming at them.

ER business should increase, and former caddies could become ambulqnce drivers.

Shoot- growing the game!
08.5.2014 | Unregistered Commenterdigsouth
''golf'' not ''god''
08.5.2014 | Unregistered Commenterdigsouth
The area around Forest Dunes is all pine trees and sand. I wonder if they'll Pinehurst 2 the course??
08.5.2014 | Unregistered Commentermelnik
Great idea to differentiate this place from others. If anyone can work out a good solution to a reversible course Tom is the guy.

Westchester CC was designed and built by Travis as a reversible course and the old photos look interesting. I wonder if Tom looked at these in thinking about this new design?
08.5.2014 | Unregistered CommenterGeoffreyC

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