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Apr202017

Trump Voters Believe Obama Played More Golf In First Months

I’m non-partisan when it comes to U.S. Presidents playing golf and using the golf course to make deals, take in fresh air, or, most importantly, suffer ego slap downs from the Golf Gods.

Still, it’s fascinating to see that President Donald Trump’s many early forays into golf are seen as as less prevalent than Barack Obama’s.

Allan Smith reports for Business Insider that 53% of Trump voters said Obama outpaced the current president with trips to the links.

A Thursday poll from the Democratic firm Public Policy Polling shows that 53% of respondents who said they voted for Trump in November said Obama had outpaced Trump on trips to the golf course during each president's first three months in office. Just 20% of Trump voters said Trump played more golf, while 27% said they were unsure.

And there was this...

Among all respondents, 48% said Trump played more golf, while 28% said Obama did. Nearly one in four respondents said they were unsure.

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Trump voters may not have a solid grasp on facts and reality? GET. OUT.
04.20.2017 | Unregistered CommenterJB
Who cares about the days playing golf. Trump was an avid golfer long before POTUS. Obama doesn't have the same golf history and likely did other things on his days off. But the liberal media needs to keep bashing away. Why doesn't the media dig on Obama's real history, such as this alleged affair in Chicago-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Lrf8DbrJH0
@PF, you evidently need the obvious pointed out to you: DJT made an issue of Obama playing too much golf and his hypocrisy is now reported on by media.
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterGiovanni
Alternative Facts.
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterThe O
I hope he grows the game
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterAmen Coroner
Not much point to a story like that (on the part of the source, not GS) unless it concludes with the ACTUAL number of rounds each played, or hours each spent. Otherwise you just gt a partisan breakdown of views from two intransigent factions.

That one in four is encouraging, though.
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterV.Lind
@Amen Corner...the game or his gut?
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterBill
Nice to see that a writer actually wrote that Trump "played golf" as opposed to "golfed".
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterSun Mountain Man
http://fortune.com/2017/04/11/donald-trump-barack-obama-travel-spending/

Those damn leftists at Fortune, pissing on Donald's parade. Nobody should care how much a president plays golf. And Andrews, where the immediate past president most often played, is a 15-minute convoy ride away from the White House. I doubt the locker room has gold fixtures from the Louis XIV Collection at the Home Depot, though. Or a fountain.
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterKLG
In fairness, I don't think they should necessarily count trip to his courses as "playing golf", unless he actually spends enough time to play and likely did. For instance, one weekend when he stayed in DC, he played on Saturday a this VA course and then went back Sunday for like an hour to have lunch or something. Different animals.

That said, they should be focusing on the number of times he decides to have weekend "meetings" at his clubs and whether the club bills the government for the use of the meeting room.
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterThe O
There are some distinct differences. Trump nearly always is playing the way a businessman plays golf. He's enjoying the game, but he's also conducting business and reinforcing relationships. Usually. Obama would play mostly with his cadre of sychophants or guys like Alonzo Mourning. Gimme a break!
Here's another little tidbit. I'm pretty sure Trumop is spending his own money, earned through his own efforts as a private-sector businessman. Obama has been on the public dole, so to speak, since...forever. As I write this, he's on David Geffen's yacht (mini cruise ship) sailing the French Polynesia with fellow socialists Oprah Winfrey, Bruce Springsteen and Tom Hanks. Raise your hands all those who think the expenses of this jaunt are outside the responsibilities of the U.S. taxpayers, including the SS attachment.
Sorry Mr. Knee-Jerk Liberal. True facts are true facts. Then there are the skewed points and factoids favored by the left-leaning media and national press corps.
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterTourgrinder
The major issue is the hypocrisy, and the minor issue is the expense of flying the entourage to Florida -- and who's paying for what once the entourage arrives there.
04.21.2017 | Unregistered Commenter3foot1
@tourgrinder. Exactly, my thought. I would think all readers of this blog know the difference between golf for work and playing with buddies. Trump does more of the former and not the latter. Obama played with Boehner once. I cannot think of any other work golf for him.

I would like to understand the breakdown of costs reporters are comparing with O's travel to Trump's. Everyone going to Mar a lago on one plane has to be cheaper than Michelle and Barry taking separate planes to Hawaii or Chicago for vacation. Must be using different qualifiers. E.g Barry goes and gives a speech and it becomes "work travel"

I don't have any data for paragraph two. Merely speculating because it seems impossible for the numbers to be correct.

Fun article, Geoff. Thanks for sharing. Have a good day, all.
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterMJR
I'm sure tourgrinder has some inside information to support his firm opinions, particularly since Donald's administration works hard to conceal details of most of his play. As for Obama, it's hard for me to call compatible golf companions, old friends and basketball buddies "sychophants". Indeed, why would anybody want to play with those types of guys rather than play "the way a businessman" does. Holy snowman, Batman!
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterPasaplayer
"Trump Voters Believe Obama Played More Golf In First Months"

Shack,

Not surprising, this clips of the story you posted.

Almost 15 months ago to the day, a few graphs from a Reuters story defined Duh Donald and the obedience of his followers better than anything else:

Confident Trump says could 'shoot somebody' and not lose voters
REUTERS
Sat Jan 23, 2016 6:45pm EST

PELLA, Iowa /ANKENY, Iowa - U.S. Republican front-runner Donald Trump expressed confidence on Saturday that he could push back attempts by his rivals to knock him off his top perch, saying he could stand on New York's Fifth Avenue "and shoot somebody," and still not lose voters.

Nine days from the first nominating contest in Iowa, however, it was Republican rival Marco Rubio who won the endorsement Saturday from the Des Moines Register, the state's biggest and most influential newspaper. On the Democratic side, the Register picked Hillary Clinton.

...

Trump, the New York billionaire and former reality TV star who has been virtually impervious to attacks from his opponents, pushed the limits of his political rhetoric again in Sioux Center, Iowa.

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters," he said.
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterSo?
"Work golf" Oh, now I understand....
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterHerb Montgomery
Tourgrinder,

Don't normally take apart another's comment. Think it's bad form. But yours left so many unanswered questions. Gotta ask 'em.

"There are some distinct differences. Trump nearly always is playing the way a businessman plays golf."

Does a businessman play golf differently than the Average American?

Does a businessman enjoy golf more than the Average American?

Is the businessman a better ambassador for the game than the Average American?

"He's enjoying the game..."

Does Duh Donald enjoy the game more than former President Obama?

How do/did you measure Duh Donald's level of golf enjoyment vs. that of former President Obama's?

How, in general, do you measure the level of golf enjoyment among different golfers?

"...but he's also conducting business and reinforcing relationships."

Do you have evidence that former President Obama failed to use the game of golf to "conduct business and reinforce relationships"?

Dp you believe that Duh Donald somehow surpasses former President Obama's ability to use the game of golf to "conduct business and reinforce relationships"?

How does one measure the difference between two human beings use of the game of golf to "conduct business and reinforce relationships"?

"Usually. Obama would play mostly with his cadre of sychophants (sic) or guys like Alonzo Mourning. Gimme a break!"

What measure/metric do you employ to define and/or identify "sycophants"?

Do you believe that Duh Donald does not play golf with "sycophants"?

Do you believe that Duh Donald's golfing partners are somehow superior to Alonzo Mourning?

Do you believe Alonzo Mourning is somehow inferior to another human being?

What device/metric do you employ to determine the level of "sycophant" between Duh Donald's golf partners and former President Obama's golf partners?

What device/metric did you use to assign an apparently negative description or tag to Mr. Mourning?

"Here's another little tidbit. I'm pretty sure Trumop is spending his own money, earned through his own efforts as a private-sector businessman. Obama has been on the public dole, so to speak, since...forever."

Are you aware that U.S. taxpayers (of whom one presumes BUT does not assume you are one), per a CNN report of April 11, learned that Duh Donald "spent six weekends – and a total of 21 days – at Mar-A-Lago, his private Palm Beach club. The total estimated costs for those trips are around $21.6 million"?

Further, CNN (granted, it's not Fox or Breitbart; one presumes BUT does not assume Bill O'Reilly must've been out that day) reported, "Obama, by contrast, spent just under $97 million on travel in his eight years as president, according to documents reviewed by Judicial Watch, a conservative government watchdog. ... Trump's frequent weekend travel makes it all but certain the 45th President will surpass Obama's spending in his first term, likely within months."

Do you realize that U.S. taxpayers are and will continue to pay for Duh Donald's trips to Mar-a-Lago and his other golf properties?

Do you find Judicial Watch to be credible, fact-based organization?

Do you find Judicial Watch to be a credible Conservative organization?

"As I write this, he's on David Geffen's yacht (mini cruise ship) sailing the French Polynesia with fellow socialists Oprah Winfrey, Bruce Springsteen and Tom Hanks. Raise your hands all those who think the expenses of this jaunt are outside the responsibilities of the U.S. taxpayers, including the SS attachment."

That's correct. Mr. Obama, like former, still living presidents Jimmy Carter, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush, receives and will continue to receive taxpayer-funded U.S. Secret Service protection until his passing. Do you believe that Congress should eliminate all U.S. Secret Service protection to all former presidents?

Have you contacted your Senate and House representatives to make known your opposition to taxpayer funding for U.S. Secret Service protection for all former U.S. presidents?

Do you believe Mr. Obama, and Mr. Obama alone, should NOT receive taxpayer funded U.S. Secret Service protection?

Do you believe taxpayer-funded U.S. Secret Service protection should be given to only certain former presidents and not others?

What metric would you employ to decide if a former president should receive taxpayer-funded U.S. Secret Service protection?

"Sorry Mr. Knee-Jerk Liberal. True facts are true facts. Then there are the skewed points and factoids favored by the left-leaning media and national press corps."

Do you have any facts to support the final portion of your comment listed above?

Do you have any facts to counter those posted in my list of questions to you?

Will you politely answer these questions to further enlighten myself and other readers as to the factual basis, which is clearly quite important to you, on this matter?

Thank you for your time.
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterSo?
We are now firmly ensconced in the The Era of Delusion.....both sides of the aisle.
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterKeith - NYC
Not a Trump fan, dId not vote for him.
As to his golf, if he wants to play once a week, Palm Beach Post cites 14x @ 2 weeks ago, God bless him.

If he uses that time to spend with his youngest son, all the better.

Tempest in a teapot.
We have wayyyy more to be concerned about: veteran's, health care, infrustructure.

rob
04.21.2017 | Unregistered Commentermainuh
Keith - NYC,

How does the U.S. taxpayers' $21.6 million tab for Duh Donald's six weeks of golf outings exemplify some sort of "Era of Delusion"?

Just wondering.
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterSo?
You forgot to point out in the article that actual numbers. Zero days playing golf for Obama, 19 times playing golf for Trump. I have no problem with a President playing golf, but it is interesting how divorced Trump voters are from reality.
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterBarry Ickes
Tourgrinder, that is nonsense. He played with Boehner and Kasich and other politicians as well. Trump played with Ernie Els and Rory. Discussing the Irish economy, no doubt. And Obama certainly enjoyed the game as well.

The biggest difference between Trump's use of the game and Obama's is that the latter is black. That's it. A black guy can't use golf for business because he is black That's the implicit statement in what you are saying given that it lacks total factual basis.
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterThe O
SO?... it's delusional because Trump supporters think their candidate plays less golf than Obama.....and vice versa for Obama/ Hilary supporters.....no need to let the facts or reality to get in the way (someone had tracked Obama at 306 rounds over his 2 terms?).....it's similar to the "my candidate's inauguration crowd was bigger than your candidate's"....we have left generally accepted reality in the rear view mirror on both sides.....Fox news says one thing and MSNBC says the polar opposite regarding the same topic.....I'm not sure of the total amounts of money being spent but I am sure it is an unbelievably huge expense tab that Trump is running for his frequent Palm Beach weekends --- but the same goes for the overly elaborate Obama (and often Michelle and kids) trips to Hawaii, Spain, China, Palm Springs and Aspen etc.
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterKeith - NYC
I always get the feeling that people who oppose Trump, hate his supporters even more than him (JB & So?). That being said, I hear the rumor is that Trump goes to Mar-A-Lago every weekend because he fears that he is being bugged at the White House. And, considering the leaks originating from the Deep State, I don't blame him. Oddly enough, the Trump Administration is the most transparent in recent memory, due to all the leaks. I am sure that all the golfing Trump does is to make the surveillance even more difficult for the dinkos, as well as keeping some kind of sanity with regard to the invasion of his professional and personal privacy.
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterSmitty
Keith - NYC

First, thank you for your response.

Couple of questions, though.

1. "SO?... it's delusional because Trump supporters think their candidate plays less golf than Obama.....and vice versa for Obama/ Hilary supporters."

Was unaware Hillary Clinton played golf? Where? What's her handicap?

2. "(someone had tracked Obama at 306 rounds over his 2 terms?)"

Not sure if that's correct.

A website (google it, not giving any PR to anyone other than Shack) claims President Obama golfed somewhere on 306 separate days of his presidency.

CBS's White House Correspondent Mark Knolller, who's sort of made tracking presidential vacation days a hobby, told Politifact for a Sept. 9, 2016 piece that with about four months left in office, then-President Obama had used 217 vacation days (Note: NOT golf, just vacation days) during his almost two full terms in office.

Here's Knolller's breakdown, as of Sept. 9, 2016, of recent presidents and their vacation habits:

Obama
217 Vacation Days
28 Vacations (including long weekends)

George Dubya Bush
533 Vacation Days (490 Crawford, Texas ranch + 49 his folks' retreat in Kennebunkport, Maine)
88 Vacations (77 Crawford + 11 Kennebunkport)

Bill Clinton
174 Vacation Days
Number of Vacations not llisted

Wikipedia offers some different numbers (Dubya fairs far worse there), but Knoller seems like a more solid source. Do you have a more accurate source of information on this topic?

3. On April 6, 2017, the same Politifact held off on defining Duh Donald's vacation days, "Despite trips to Mar-a-Lago, too soon to call trips 'vacations' ", noting only that:

As of that date, Duh Donald had made six trips to Mar-a-Lago; and,

Duh Donald on the campaign trail repeatedly had vowed "not be a president who took vacations."

How do Duh Donald's Mar-a-Lago travel habits and the resulting bill for U.S. taxpayers square with his promises "not be a president who took vacations"?

4. Politifact also wrote of Duh Donald's Mar-a-Lago visits:

"Trump attended the Red Cross Ball, a fundraiser which was held at the resort on Feb. 4.

"He hosted Shinzo Abe, the Japanese prime minister and his wife, Akie Abe, during a weekend in mid February.

"He played a full round of golf with pro Rory McIlroy and Clear Sports CEO Garry Singer on Feb. 19.

"He visited a Catholic school near Orlando to discuss education reform before going to a Republican fundraising dinner on March 3.

"He was scheduled to host Chinese President Xi Jinping at Mar-a-Lago for a U.S.-China summit starting on April 6."

Of Duh Donald's golfing activities, Politifact wrote more than two weeks ago:

"Trump also has been playing golf at his properties close to home.

"He played with Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., and Office of Management and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney on April 2 at Trump National Golf Course in Potomac Falls, Va., according to CNN. That outing represented his 14th trip to one of his courses since taking office."

Do you find any of this information incorrect and/or biased?

5. Politifact also pointed out in its most recent story:

"What these bits of information about Trump's activities suggest is that he has been combining work with play. That's hardly unprecedented for a president -- his predecessor, Barack Obama, played a lot of golf with administration officials and others during his tenure. The main difference is that Trump has spent more time at Mar-a-Lago, located far from Washington."

Do you believe that both Duh Donald and then-President Obama mingled work and golf?

Do you believe that Duh Donald has somehow more effectively used golf than then-President Obama?

Do you approve of Duh Donald making Mar-a-Lago his most frequent, U.S. taxpayer-funded stop outside D.C. and the site of the balance of his golf outings?

6. "I'm not sure of the total amounts of money being spent but I am sure it is an unbelievably huge expense tab that Trump is running for his frequent Palm Beach weekends --- but the same goes for the overly elaborate Obama (and often Michelle and kids) trips to Hawaii, Spain, China, Palm Springs and Aspen etc."

Can't disagree with you there.

However, as the aforementioned CNN story emphasized, Duh Donald, after less than 100 days of traveling to and from Mar-a-Lago, is on pace to give the U.S. taxpayers a larger bill for his pleasure in ONE YEAR than former President Obama did in EIGHT YEARS.

It's quite possible that Duh Donald will not visit Mar-a-Lago as frequently in the warmer months and will, instead, visit his golf club in New Jersey. The Florida summer is often brutally hot and humid, and Jersey figures to be more agreeable to Duh Donald's climate tastes. Also, any sort of geopolitical and/or national matters could keep Duh Donald off the links in the months to come.

Do you think Duh Donald is on pace to outspend Mr. Obama 8:1 on personal travel and its associated costs?

Do you think Duh Donald should outspend Mr. Obama 8:1 on personal travel and its associated costs?

Do you think Duh Donald should continue to call for $54 billion in cuts to the federal budget while on pace to outspend Mr. Obama 8:1 on personal travel and its associated costs?

Do you believe federal spending cuts and the reduction in the use of U.S. taxpayers funds should begin with federal agencies or Duh Donald's personal travel and leisure activities?

Do you believe U.S. taxpayers should accept that Duh Donald, in light of his campaign promises, will outspend Mr. Obama 8:1 on personal travel and its associated costs and that Duh Donald's own business, Mar-a-Lago, figures to receive a fair amount of those U.S. taxpayer dollars?
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterSo?
Smitty,

"I always get the feeling that people who oppose Trump, hate his supporters even more than him (JB & So?)."

Sorry. Don't hate anybody.

"I hear the rumor is that Trump goes to Mar-A-Lago every weekend because he fears that he is being bugged at the White House."

The Rumor, Smitty.

Any factual information to support the rest of your sentence? Or are you just sticking with The Rumor?
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterSo?
>> Oddly enough, the Trump Administration is the most transparent in recent memory, due to all the leaks.

That's an interesting definition of "transparency".

You should probably also include, in your measure of "transparency", all of the lies that have been uncovered by reporters, citizen-investigators, international intelligence services, etc. The crowd-sourced investigation into who donated to the Inauguration is also increasing the level of "transparency" and next week we'll get to hear from Sally Yates.
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterCarl Peterson
Whoa that is awesome......I'll work on a response and post it by....maybe next week? Meanwhile I'm off to the range to hit a few balls.
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterKeith - NYC
In all honesty, the Turmp slurpers have to be taking the piss, right? C'mon, there is no way people are actually that delusional.

You can debate whether Turmp golfs differently that other people and 'conducts business.' -LOL or whether this argument about golf is worth it or not, however you should still read the piece by Fortune that KLG kindly provided the link for... Golf or no golf, the guy is a complete phony and hypocrite who meant nothing he said during the campaign. He played the gullible masses who voted him in, continues to play them now and probably laughs at how stupid his supporters are every day.

He's laughing all the way to the bank.
He has always, for his whole life, made it clear all he cares about is grabbing more and more money. Period.
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterPress Agent
Keith - NYC,

Merely questions politely asked and a request politely offered.

Never expected you to reply.

Enjoy the range.

Fore!
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterSo?
"C'mon, there is no way people are actually that delusional."

PA,

While I agree with your basic premise and believe the Fortune piece spells things out quite accurately, suggest you consider that, yes, people are actually that delusional. They believe in Duh Donald, and belief triumphs fact every time.
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterSo?
The First Amendment in action on a golf blog? Please explain how we make it work on campus.
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterBerkeley
ok, so let me get this straight--

one guy owns a home in Florida and weekends there likes to play golf. He wins the Presidency and...keeps weekending there.

Unsurprisingly, he plays golf 19 times from Jan-April 21. Some are with "clients" like Abe and others.


Other guy owns a small house in Chicago and no other home. He wins the Presidency and starts using the 4 star presidential retreat on weekends. the presidential retreat is in Maryland, his day job is in DC, both of which are cold now

So he starts playing golf April 25--kinda like a lot of us northerners.

So forgive my cynicism when i wonder whether we should wait til the end of the year to compare golf games.

I also think devoting zero inches to the numbers involved, and going straight to the opinion poll, is misleading.
04.21.2017 | Unregistered Commenterczervik
@So?

"Do you approve of Duh Donald making Mar-a-Lago his most frequent, U.S. taxpayer-funded stop outside D.C. and the site of the balance of his golf outings?"

Actually I would prefer it were Myrtle Beach, unmatched for its fine golf, not to mention its hush puppies. But Mar-a-Lago will do.

"Do you believe that Duh Donald has somehow more effectively used golf than then-President Obama?"

I think his golf properties have created more private-sector jobs, put more money in people's pockets, than "Community Organizers R Us" did. But I have no data to support this.

"Have you contacted your Senate and House representatives to make known your opposition to taxpayer funding for U.S. Secret Service protection for all former U.S. presidents?

No. Have you? Did you close your request with, "Thank you for your time"?

"Do you find Judicial Watch to be a credible Conservative organization?"

Do you believe Politifact is 100% without liberal bias?

"Do you believe Alonzo Mourning is somehow inferior to another human being?"

I believe Mr. Mourning is far better in the paint than Shinzo Abe ever was, or will be. He also rocks a beard better than Wolf Blitzer.

"Does Duh Donald enjoy the game more than former President Obama?"

No. A 20-handicap chopper can derive as much enjoyment from golf as a solid, devoted, lifetime player. That's the beauty of it.

"Do you realize that U.S. taxpayers are and will continue to pay for Duh Donald's trips to Mar-a-Lago and his other golf properties?"

Gee. All this time, I've assumed they'd be paid for by the First Tee.

"How, in general, do you measure the level of golf enjoyment among different golfers?"

With an electronic Fun-O-Meter. You can borrow mine, if you promise to replace the batteries.

"Do you believe federal spending cuts and the reduction in the use of U.S. taxpayers funds should begin with federal agencies or Duh Donald's personal travel and leisure activities?"

Federal spending cuts. Except for moneys used to create enormous prison work farms, in which inmates would be required to work for restitution for their crimes. Or funds to create road gangs where they would toil in the hot sun, like in Cool Hand Luke, with nothing to read at night except for Nicklaus' Golf My Way.
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterBedard
100% of respondents knew that when The Donald played he wore khakis, his white hard collar golf shirt, and the red Make America Great Again truck driver cap. The outfit that keeps on giving.
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterSal Bonpensiero
@So? --

Feelings aren't right or wrong--they just are. Thanks for the insight. Now, I don't have to assume about your opinion on that matter.

As for the rumor, at least it was properly attributed as such. Just offering a plausible explanation as to the MAL junkets, nothing more. Insofar as facts are concerned, I didn't offer any, as rumors are just that--rumors. Kind of like rumors of war, but without unzipping your fly, in the military sense. Just heard about them on the radio and the internet.

Hope this helps!
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterSmitty
Ugh, most of these arguments have stopped at the taxpayer footing the bill. When ' Duh Donald' visits the facilities he owns who is the ultimate recipient of the taxpayers' dollars? 'Duh Donald' is paying his own clubs for services rendered: think rooms, food and beverage for all presidential services, capacity expense (if the president is visiting the Ballroom next door is probably occupied rarely), golf fees, caddie fees, and probably others that I missed. He is using tax dollars to line his pockets laundering the money through these private clubs whose books are essentially sealed even with a sub poena during this administration.

Contrary to the beliefs of many fans of Pres. DTJ, those of us that seek out facts to root our understanding are true Patriots. Too often are Americans divided by television politics and I refuse to look at those with opposing opinions as enemies. The fact of travel budget discrepancies due to the president's "climate preferences" are predicted to quickly outpace any other administration.

N.B. Now please consider the taxpayer expense and the economic impact of the first family remaining in NYC. Just another example of additional taxpayer expense required by this administration.
@ Carl Peterson --

Actually, I wish the Obama Administration were as transparent. After all, Tom Brokaw admitted on election night 2008, that we (the American people) don't know anything about Obama. After eight years, I don't believe that substantially changed. He was never investigated by the DOJ, FBI, or CIA. I find it curious that two independent forensic document experts believed that Obama's long form birth certificate was a crude composite. I am not saying that he wasn't born here, but I find it odd that none of the previously named agencies have been curious enough to even look at it. I looked at their presentation, and as a computer expert, I find the evidence compelling.

Questions: Who faked the document? And for what purpose? And where does it lead?
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterSmitty
Smithy,
Two independent forensic document experts from where? Who called them experts and where did the document they examined come from? Sheriff Joe?
Secondly, the FBI looks into the background of every presidential candidate as a matter of diligence, if you don't hear any reports, there is nothing worth reporting. Does not mean due diligence was not done.
At any rate, Obama was a Muslim Communist plant who turned the US so far left they could never vote for another GOP candidate again no matter how unqualified....oh, wait a minute, that didn't work.
Insert different conspiracy theory here.....
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterKG
So? have you ever considered posting your drivel on a tumblr blog or maybe submitting your posts in PDF format? Sheesh, what a psycho. The new poster child for Trump Derangement Syndrome.
04.21.2017 | Unregistered CommenterScott

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