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Sep232009

"I probably shouldn't say this, but if I had played in the [Greg] Norman-[Nick] Faldo era, instead of winning 25 times with two majors, I probably would have won 40 times and had six majors."

Monte Burke talks to Johnny Miller, his usual humble self, offering a few thoughts worth checking out there. Highlights:

Forbes: Give us an idea of the preparation you go through before covering an event.

Johnny Miller: I don't want to brag, but I do more homework on the course than any other announcer.

More than Gary McCord?

I chart the greens to get all the breaks. I walk down into the greenside bunkers. I walk into the fairway bunkers to see whether a player can reach the green from them. My goal is to get to know the course as [well] or better than the players.

That doesn't take much these days!

Forbes: What's your take on the overall state of the game?

Johnny Miller: They've got it really good. The Tour is a fantastic place to be right now. I don't look back and say I got hosed. I think our era, if you don't count money, was maybe the most exciting era. You had Palmer, Nicklaus, Player, Trevino, [Raymond] Floyd, [Hale] Irwin, [Tom] Weiskopf, myself and Hubert Green. It was a golden age of golf from 1970 to 1980. I don't know if there will ever be one quite like it. Every era has two or three great golfers. Our era had six to 10. I probably shouldn't say this, but if I had played in the [Greg] Norman-[Nick] Faldo era, instead of winning 25 times with two majors, I probably would have won 40 times and had six majors. That era had [Fred] Couples, Norman, Faldo and [Curtis] Strange, but it didn't really have guys who could play on Sunday. We had the great era of Sunday players. There's a lot to be said for that.

That's great Johnny, but it was a state of the game question, not the state of your game had you been in your prime during the 90s (wait...didn't you win a tour event in the 90s?).

Now this was interesting:

Will Tiger break Jack Nicklaus' record of 18 career major wins?

Everybody has a choke point. Nicklaus' was winning the Grand Slam. All of Tiger's life ever since he was kid, he's wanted to get to 19 majors. It's probably going to get a lot harder with these last five. Let's put it this way: He doesn't want to go next year without winning any majors, because he'll probably start second-guessing himself.

Tiger is a pretty old 33. He's been going at it for an awful long time. Maybe he's one of those guys like Tom Kite or Gary Player, one of those guys who never lost the love of competition and traveling and living out of a suitcase in a motel room. They just couldn't get enough. Maybe Tiger will be that way, but maybe if he has more children, he'll play just eight tourneys a year. It's not a guarantee that he'll win five more. There are plenty of guys who played great golf, had great careers and only won a few majors. If I had to guess, I'd say that he will beat the record, but it will be a struggle.

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You tell 'em Johnny, you're the man!
09.23.2009 | Unregistered CommenterFarmingdale
What's the big deal. He's right.
09.23.2009 | Unregistered Commenterwww.mrpgolf.com
A shoo-in for the Dickheads Hall of Fame.
09.23.2009 | Unregistered CommenterAunt Blabbie
Aunt Blabbie...

I think he's already in. If I'm not mistaken he made it in the year he told Justin Leonard that he should go home prior to Leonard nailing the 70 footer to win the Ryder Cup!

Seriously, your post was very funny!
09.23.2009 | Unregistered Commenterwww.mrpgolf.com
At least Johnny didn't mention,as he usually does,(but Burke did) that he shot the greatest golf round ever- his 63 at Oakmont in the final round of the 73 US Open.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/14/sports/14iht-GOLF.1.6136590.html
09.23.2009 | Unregistered CommenterSteven T.
Johnny does a good job. Everyone knows that hubris-not-humility is his forte, and so be it with the recent years' rota and the courses on which he commentates. If anything perhaps he needs more flavor around him at NBC.
09.23.2009 | Unregistered CommenterMorg
Agree that he is right about next season being very big for Tiger. He needs to win at least one major next year.
09.23.2009 | Unregistered Commenterdbcooper
I always liked Johny but this act is getting a bit tired. If he had to putt greens the speed of today's greens he would have been in the booth by the time he hit 34.
09.23.2009 | Unregistered CommenterPABOY
I always liked Johny but this act is getting a bit tired.

If he had to putt greens the speed of today's greens he would have been in the booth by the time he hit 34, he could hit it and certainly knew how to win. One reason the top 10 players were so much more productive prior to 1980 is they were the only ones financially independent, everyone else was playing to pay for the kids braces.

Agreed most of the rest of the NBC crew is a bore and Johny seems overburdened to make it interesting. I thought he was going to retire and do his missionary work. Lets hope Seve recovers and NBC can get him to replace Miller. Heck Angel Cabra would give us more to think about than 3/4 of NBC's crew.
09.23.2009 | Unregistered CommenterPABOY
He forgot to mention Tom Watson as part of his 'Golden Age' of players.

DM
09.23.2009 | Unregistered CommenterDick Mahoon
Johnny is easily the finest announcer on TV and in his day, he was the man. In a time when cliches rule the roost, I'll take Mr. Miller every time. The cat could play and he certainly tells it like it is.
09.23.2009 | Unregistered CommenterNathan
I probably shouldn't say this, but if I had played in the (Mungo) Park-(Old) Tom Morris era, I would have won fifty-eight challenge matches and five Championship Belts before retiring to a life of gutty-making and dying of alcohol-induced dropsy.
09.23.2009 | Unregistered CommenterFo Shiz
Furthermore, if a cow had wings it would fly.
09.23.2009 | Unregistered CommenterSteven T.
PABOY, I love Seve, his swagger, INCREDIBLE ability, knack for winning, passion, and a whole bunch more...

...but he's an idiot. Seve couldn't carry Johnny's mic cord.
09.23.2009 | Unregistered CommenterFarmingdale
Johnny re: his Shell's WWOG match against Nicklaus at Olympic...you know the one where he got killed:

"From tee to green I outplayed Jack" -pg. 14 of "I Call the Shots"

Ask anyone who was there if Johnny did anything better than Jack that day.
09.23.2009 | Unregistered CommenterKevin
johnny, his 63, and his grain are all idiots.
09.23.2009 | Unregistered Commentersergio
Fo Shiz.

Pure brilliance.

I love it!
09.24.2009 | Unregistered CommenterStyles
Until he stops saying that putts "hook" and "slice," two things that are both IMPOSSIBLE and for a person who knows as much about the golf swing as he claims to do is idiotic, I will not turn the sound back on NBC golf coverage...
09.24.2009 | Unregistered CommenterPhil the Author
", [Hale] Irwin, [Tom] Weiskopf, ... and Hubert Green"

Clearly greats who dwarf Ballesteros, Price, Langer, Strange etc

Nonsense on stilts.
09.24.2009 | Unregistered CommenterJono
We need to remember that this is coming from a guy who entered the mother of all slumps at age 29, and who battled the yips for most of his career. So I wonder what six majors he thinks he should have won in the 80's. And as for winning fifteen more tournaments; In 1974 he won 8 tournaments. Does he think he would have won something like 12 tournaments in 1982 if he had been born the same year as Strange and Norman?
09.24.2009 | Unregistered CommenterHawkeye
But he may be right about Tiger. Remember, Nicklaus won the eighteenth major at age 46. Could be a while before Tiger gets to nineteen. I think he will. But just saying.
09.24.2009 | Unregistered CommenterJordan
Phil the Author, I thought so, too, for many years, until I read that Bobby Locke consistently hooked his putts. I know. Don't believe everything you read.
09.24.2009 | Unregistered CommenterAunt Blabbie
Well, Justin Leonard was playing poorly until that bomb (no one "nails" a 70-foot putt) and the subsequent unhinged reaction of Team USA in the 1999 Ryder Cup. As for the rest of it, Johnny is not all that politic, but aside from leaving out Watson, who started winning Majors in 1975, I don't see much to disagree with. But I'm old and live comfortably in the golfing past, where the "season" ended after the PGA and you had to really look for the Ryder Cup results.
He's the TV version of Judge Smails. "...I'm no slouch." "Don't underestimate yourself, judge, you're a tremendous slouch." ...just replace "slouch" with "ass".

So Johnny has to have someone follow him around to repair all the bunkers he's been tromping around in ?
09.24.2009 | Unregistered Commentercourt
>> I probably shouldn't say this, but if I had played in the [Greg] Norman-[Nick] Faldo era, instead of winning 25 times with two majors, I probably would have won 40 times and had six majors.<<

Right John and if Billy Casper would have played in the Norman/Faldo era Casper would have won 80 times and had 10 majors. Sarcasm aside as good as Johnny was for a short period of time he should never be compared to any of the all time greats in the game. When stacked against history Millers record is only slightly better than DL3. Which makes him very good but not great.
09.24.2009 | Unregistered CommenterOWGR Fan
hey phil. could it be that a slice putt is simply one that goes left to right and a hook putt is one that goes right to left? that's how i describe such putts to english-limited asian golfers.
09.24.2009 | Unregistered Commenter129
He's absolutely right ... that he shouldn't have said it.
09.24.2009 | Unregistered CommenterG
Stay classy, Johnny.
09.24.2009 | Unregistered CommenterThe O
129...

only if you are RIGHT-handed...

Golf balls hook & slice becuase of the drag that occurs as they spin as they fly through the air. Balls that roll on putting surfacse TURN... or would you describe what you do with your automobile is duck-hook left at the intersection?
09.24.2009 | Unregistered CommenterPhil the Author
NOT ONE OF THE GREATS MENTIONED IN THIS ARGUMENT THINKS THAT MILLER WOULD
HAVE SHOT A 63 AT OAKMONT if HE HADNIT BEEN ABLE TO HIDE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELD. . IF IT HAD WORKED OUT THAT HE WAS UP AGAINST PALMER IN THE LAST PAIIRING HIS SCORE WOULD
HAVE BEEN IN THE 70--71 RANGE.
09.24.2009 | Unregistered CommenterDr Alfeo Romano

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