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Wednesday
Oct312012

Jack: Presidential Election Will Determine Recovery Of Stalled Golf Course Construction Industry 

Art Stricklin reports that Jack and Barbara Nicklaus will make more appearances in Ohio for Mitt Romney leading up to the November 6, 2012 election. 

Nicklaus told those gathered at the opening of his new Summit Rock course in Horseshoe Bay, Texas that the future of the golf course construction industry is dependent on the presidential election results.

"It all depends on who is elected next Tuesday," Nicklaus said Tuesday during the opening of Summit Rock, his new course in Horseshoe Bay, Texas, just west of Austin. "It will take longer if the wrong guy is elected."

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Another aged, wealthy, white, "Christian" male, conservative who believes that the same kind of people who got us into the mess we are now emerging from are better stewards than the President. Right, as an aging, white, "non-christian", not wealthy, liberal, male I doubt it. The golf industry is struggling, as one who was and is in the smaller, less monied-than-Jack, part knows it is precisely because of people like Jack that it is struggling. Too costly, too time consuming, too exclusive and to be more specific his design philosophies are part of of it, too. Ever been to one of his designs? Try one on a working man's budget. Doesn't happen. Desert Mountain? Muirfield Village? Harbour Town? These are cost effective? Chase the money, Jack. Sadly, your great ability as a player is overshadowed now by your greed. The President is of the belief that we are all in this together but your candidate thinks he did all by himself. Or at least he could borrow the money from his parents or the other 53% of the country? I will ditch my Jack memorabilia.
10.31.2012 | Unregistered Commenterthebigdad
The constructopm of high-end golf coursed is not a big priority with this country.
10.31.2012 | Unregistered CommenterJim
In other news, Ron Whitten endorsed Romney in a bid to save Golf Digest's "Best New Courses" feature.
10.31.2012 | Unregistered CommenterMark B
Go Jack Go!
10.31.2012 | Unregistered Commenterjjshaka
So Jack thinks that if the 'right guy' is elected, it's going to be back on to the gravy train of golf course design and construction?? Really? Is Jack really that stupid?
10.31.2012 | Unregistered CommenterPress Agent
LOL!!!! Thanks for that reply jjshaka...We have bigger issues in the Country than worrying about building more golf courses with less people playing the game HOWEVER Obama is NOT "were all in this together"....That's a bunch of cow dung....He is tearing the Country apart at the seems with his leadership or lack there of. The man has more excuses for our Country's failure's then Carters' got liver pills!
10.31.2012 | Unregistered CommenterViz
Just what we need...more golf courses...Especially ones tricked up so much that the average player can't break 110, and takes 5+ hours to play them.
10.31.2012 | Unregistered CommenterHilltop
@Viz How has this president tearing the country apart? Be specific and not just some Fox news talking point. I'm waiting.
10.31.2012 | Unregistered Commenterthebigdad
Sadly, neither man is the ''answer'', but going back to the GOP ''voodoo economics'' and the ''do as you please'' treatment of the banking industry, which dates back to Carter, and has escalated until Bush Two found he was better at using a chain saw than legislating, and the whole damn mess nearly fell through---God can anyone really believe that the crooks and the nuts at the GOP are going to do anything but rob the middle class blind....

Man, I WANT to be GOP rich too, but VERY FEW PEOPLE ARE, and the desire to hang with the 1% has thrown so many good people into making such sad choices--- the DEMs are not doing it right either, and O has been handed a shitstorm--- but REALLY? McCAIN!!!???!!! would have deepened the hole, and escalated both wars, sent more kids home in a box, and then dropped dead, and effing Sarah Palin would have had to man up and read a newspaper, because SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN PRESIDENT- another case of the GOP's ''style over substance'' method of nomination.

Read about the Bushes, who learned how to ''win'', but not legislate- Romney is another Trojan Horse.

Jack , your political advise is right there with your ability to make good greens: you have lost touch with reality.
10.31.2012 | Unregistered Commenterdigsouth
Jack does not have a clue what happens outside of his community.
Never stood up for anything but himself it seems.
Plenty of issues of social consequence when he was playing and not a peep.
Go away Jack
10.31.2012 | Unregistered CommenterQrispy2
Just played one of jacks masterpieces, Mayacama, YES JACK we need more golf courses that take up hundreds of acres and cost 125000 to join, oops used to be 250000$ guess Obamas to blame for that. Nothing like building more and more private courses for the ultra wealthy to grow the game"!!! Other than that it was a fine course with some single trees planted in the middle of fairways and a huge lake next to 18 that reminded me of Florida. Please Jack for your estate tax burden I hope the guy in the middle gets


Viz I know you don't really care but At least my sister will not be denied health care thus keeping my entire family from losing our wealth. Go Obamacare! Sorry Viz for those death panels Palin used to talk about maybe Ryan will send you a voucher!!
10.31.2012 | Unregistered CommenterA3
Jack's statement pretty much sums up the presidential race and what each side stands for. I'm sorry that Mr. Nicklaus thinks that is a priority in the USA at this time. It also shows that Nicklaus doesn't think there are too many courses already which to many is pretty obvious. The ole job creator insanity--create jobs for the "scrubs" while the boss man makes millions. It's a good gig if you can get it.
10.31.2012 | Unregistered Commenternew Harv
BTW my father knows one of jacks confidants. And was back in the day asked to approach the owner of 4 acres of land next to Muirfield , owner never sold it to Jack, funny story, those 4 acres still stand exactly like they we're 40 years ago. On another note Jack was a horrible business person back then almost lost his shirt, so his views on business would be suspect in my book.
10.31.2012 | Unregistered CommenterA3
You keep thinkin' Jack. That's what you're good at.
I'm reminded of the thought bubble that goes over KP's head in this picture:
http://www.golf.com/photos/final-round-memorial-tournament/kenny-perry-jack-nicklaus-memorial
"Yeah, whatever, Jack. But when I built a golf course in my hometown, the locals could play it. And afford it."
10.31.2012 | Unregistered CommenterKLG
Setting the zealotry aside, does the golf industry stand a better chance of making a comeback under one candidate or the other?
10.31.2012 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
No. This has been another episode of "Simple answers to simple questions."
10.31.2012 | Unregistered CommenterKLG
I'd heard other stories of Jack's business struggles. Anyone have specific facts / details about this?

Obviously his line of clubs haven't been a smashing success.
10.31.2012 | Unregistered CommenterAndy S
A3---

I have played Horseshoe Bay many times, and always looked forward to playing in the Horseshoe Bay Invitational, over the 3 courses there, in 3 days....Well I assumed that we would be invited to a 4 day tourney now, with a round over each course- but the new ''Nicklaus'' course has a ''separate initiation fee'' and an increased monthly fee, and, at that time, was not going to be a part of the tournament ( I have been ill and not played for the last couple of years) So this course and the public course in LAREDO, home of death on a stick, are the only 2 courses being built in America a few months ago (I don't know, now)

Jack, you got yours, and everyone elses too. If Romney is elected are you saying you will carry on, with new tracks and greens that are designed by, I don't know, kids sending in drawings? STFU, Jack.
10.31.2012 | Unregistered Commenterdigsouth
My boyhood hero is sadly out of touch, hidden behind the gated communities
10.31.2012 | Unregistered CommenterChicago pt
I hate seeing Jack in this sort of arena. I have the utmost respect for the man as a golfer.
Statements like this, no matter your political bent, just seem so reductive. Self serving if you're being cynical and naive if you're not.
Lose lose.
10.31.2012 | Unregistered Commenterdbh
DTF IMO the answer is no, neither candidate is better. The golf industry is in trouble because of greed and lack of respect for the game itself. It's not going to improve because of regulations or lack of regs. Too many courses, too many greedy manufacturers that care nothing about the game and just want to make millions. Too many leaders in the game, Commisioners, CEO's of PGA that make salaries that are completely out of control.
10.31.2012 | Unregistered Commenternew Harv
I play at the Australian Golf Club in Sydney. It was re-done by Jack back in the 70's and was a great course. Top 100 in the world for quite some time. Over time the design didn't hold up too well and the greens became infested with poa. So we got Jack back in to basically rebuild the course. Started in June and will be complete by March next year. Now, the reason I mention it is that whilst the new design looks fantastic and most certainly the course will be once again world-class, it's going to be 400 metres longer (around 6800 metres) and so incredibly difficult that I suspect around 25% of the existing membership will not be able to play it....
10.31.2012 | Unregistered CommenterIanB
I really do like Jack and respect what he has done for the professional sport of golf (not sure about what his courses have done for the game of golf though) but he should be smarter than publicising his political leaning. And I know I'm going to get a lot of disagreements on this but wasn't it the GOP's mantra of deregulation at all cost for the financial industry and alan greenspan's monetary policy that led this country into the financial mess that is destroying Jack's beloved golf course construction industry?
10.31.2012 | Unregistered Commenterminhvunguyen
After reading Jack's comments I was starting to believe that guys who really know golf do not have anything thoughtful to say about politics. After reading the reader comments, I was sure of it.
10.31.2012 | Unregistered CommenterJJ
I have it on good authority that Jack is uncomfortable with Tiger's former mixed-race marriage. Race to the bottom, GOP!
10.31.2012 | Unregistered CommenterThe O
Well, if America has to sacrifice 4 more years of no Jack Nicklaus designed courses if the "wrong" guy is elected next week, I guess that is just a price we will have to pay.

Sorry to inform you of this, Jack, but your "wrong" guy is gonna win. Have fun playing with the grandkids for the next 4 years.
10.31.2012 | Unregistered CommenterRickABQ
Why don't you tell us how it is, JJ.
10.31.2012 | Unregistered Commenterdigsouth
Horseshit makes the grass grow green. And Jack's full of it.
10.31.2012 | Unregistered Commenter3jack
Just because a guy wins 18 majors doesn't necessarily make him an expert on anything. Jack's out-of-touchness epitomizes "golf" and why so many average people really feel alienated from the game on a lot of levels. His impossible courses are a major reason why people don't play golf: too hard, too expensive, and no damned fun.
10.31.2012 | Unregistered CommenterLA Man
$2 trillion raised and 'spent' by the two pres campaigns. What a great use of this money. Hey! Corporations are people too (Citizens United).

JJ - you must mean that us shack-ites don't know golf, because many of us understand that the effort of the neo-cons over the last 40 years (Louis Powell memo of 1971) led us to where we are today with the neutering of the New Deal and massive deregulation, er free market capitalism. Am I better off than I was 4 years ago? No, I am not, but what a bad question. Not better than 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 18, 20, 22 years ago, ad nauseum. You know, we didn't build too many courses between 1929 and 1955.

Has not the GOP taken over the house, senate, and judicial branch to block every attempt at progressive reform since 2010? Have they not completely hog-tied Dodd-Frank? Didn't Newt and his fellow pledging GOPers repeal Glass-Steagall in 1999?

GOP former gov/pres candidate Tim Pawlenty ('wall street pigs need to get their snouts out of the trough') is now the CEO of the biggest banks' collective lobby ('roundtable'). And why do people vote against their own interests? And how can a woman vote GOPwhen the party doesn't support their human rights? And remember, vulture capitalists are never job creators.

So, let's bring in this job creator who makes money/paper by vulturing vulnerable small businesses, stripping/liquidating their assets, laying off employees, taking jobs overseas, hiding profits overseas, and sometimes using cheap federal funds in doing so. Then we can return to some short term glory days which will culminate in another collapse. Meanwhile, poor Jack and his associates/grandkids will have collected some more ludicrous design fees for unplayable/unmaintainable courses that will be BK after their first ten years (thats right Angeles National, I will not have dropped $175 to see your routing).

I've worked for small businesses all my (working) life, and they generally remain small and stay lean. Guess what that means? Very low job growth. And any periods of growth are generally followed by periods of shrinkage. We are most concerned with producing profit. And in order for large profits, somebody is getting hurt on the other end.
"Just because a guy wins 18 majors doesn't necessarily make him an expert on anything."
C'mon LA man be fair.
He's an expert on one thing- winning 18 majors .
20,000,000,000,000

Those 0's are not golf balls, or holes, or strokes recorded in a year around the world.

That will be the national debt at the end of the blamer-in-chief's tenure, of which he will have contributed HALF of that. My son, who is not aged, wealthy, white, Christian, or conservative will be saddled with that burden. When will he have time to learn to love golf?

I voted for the blamer-in-chief and have lost all confidence in him. I apologize to my son for that mistake. Retire him to the golf course.

I couldn't care less what Jack says.
11.1.2012 | Unregistered CommenterBob
Does Romney play golf? I believe the answer is no, so why is Jack supporting a non-golfer who doesn't even see the benefits of playing the game?
11.1.2012 | Unregistered CommenterWayne
UBB - I think you mean billion not trillion...
11.1.2012 | Unregistered CommenterJonathan
Does Jack realize that Romney made all his money capitalizing on poorly run companies that were bloated like Golden Bear Enterprises.
11.1.2012 | Unregistered CommenterPaboy
IanB

75% of the existing membership will be able to play a 7400 yard course? They must be good players.
11.1.2012 | Unregistered CommenterMike Clayton
Jack is half right. If Romney is elected, it may be better for a few thousand people in the golf course construction industry.

But will Romney make the country better for millions of policemen, firefighters, nurses, teachers, and other hard-working middle and lower-income people who simply want affordable health care, a respectable retirement, and better education for their children? I'm one of them, and I'm not convinced.
11.1.2012 | Unregistered Commenter3foot1
Jack has gone bankrupt what, twice?
11.1.2012 | Unregistered Commenterchicago pt
Then there's this excellent analysis:

"Many play golf, and one odd effect of that pursuit is that they return to work manifestly stupider than they were.

It is, I think, the company of other golfers." -- G.W. Lyttleton
11.1.2012 | Unregistered Commenterkenoneputt
Mitt Romney was against golf course development before he was for it. I mean, he was for it and then against it. He was against those oppressive environmental regulation before he recognized that honest, working men and women needed the $11 an hour jobs that they could get if a course gets built. And, of course, he was in favor of severe, meaningful immigration reform that would affect seasonal Mexican golf course workers until he realized that the Hispanic vote was so important.

To paraphrase George Burns, "in politics, consistency is everything. If you can fake that, you got it made."
11.1.2012 | Unregistered Commentertlavin

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