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Friday
Dec282012

Greg Norman's Letter To Medalist Members

I think the most interesting thing about Greg Norman's goodbye letter making the email rounds after going to Medalist equity members is the attached third page. Co-designer Pete Dye signed on to take his name off the design as well, even though protege/co-designer Bobby Weed has been hired to probably restore much of Dye's original work.

But I did get a nice chuckle of the Shark's dramatization of the whole affair first revealed by Tim Rosaforte, especially of the supposed courtesy call that architects make when they replace another architect.

Who says the Shark doesn't have a sense of humor?

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Why didn't Pete Dye send Greg Norman a letter when he was screwing up The Medalist?

Should they rename the club, "The Meddlelist"?
12.28.2012 | Unregistered CommenterDr. Strangelove
Drama - I wonder if Pete likes Greg throwing his name around like this
12.28.2012 | Unregistered CommenterCarl Spachler
I particularly enjoy how "Mr. De Mudd" transmogrifies into "Mr. Mudd" within the first paragraph and thereafter within. Of penultimate amusement are the mixed tenses in the first sentence of the second paragraph. I could go on, but it hardly seems fair. Norman writes with greater strain than Charles Barkley swings a golf club.
12.28.2012 | Unregistered CommenterAce
Muddleist as in a mojito. Its been pummeled. Poor Greg and his ego. Bruised like the mint and lime. I wish Pete had told Greg to pound sand. What does Greg have on Pete? Did he fall down the steps too?
12.28.2012 | Unregistered CommenterAmen Coroner
I am curious as to where Shark will now be playing his golf in south Florida? He has now worn out his welcome at both Lost Tree Club and Medalist....maybe Jack will invite him to join The Bear's Club or Ray Floyd will extend playing privileges at Olde Palm? Doubtful Nick Price would want him at MacArthur...Jupiter Hills maybe? He would no doubt like to join Seminole but not sure they would want him...
12.28.2012 | Unregistered CommenterSun Mountain Man
Is this Mudd character's first name really De?
12.28.2012 | Unregistered CommenterSun Mountain Man
What a Gigantic Douchenozzle. Maybe he could play at Adios...

-see what I did there? ;-)
12.28.2012 | Unregistered CommenterDT
Greg, definitely, loves, his, commas.
12.28.2012 | Unregistered CommenterChipi
I wondered if someone, anyone, else noticed
.

Comma, comma, comma, comma, comma chameleon- you come and go, you come and go...

Give 'em hell Greg. That chip in eagle to win at Doral was awesome, proving one does not always have to be a bridesmaid.

As to the rest of it, wineries are not cool- raisins are. Dried grapes are the new deal. Designer prunes, as it were. Cutting edge stuff. I'm for hire.
12.28.2012 | Unregistered Commenterdigsouth
I sort of wish that Greg would pour his energies into preventing the transmogrification of The Old Course. I say "sort of." In any event, I'm not sure that anyone would have ever noticed a little more tinkering at the reclaimed swampland that is the Medalist.
12.28.2012 | Unregistered CommenterChuck
Greg, as a CEO, should be more worried about his writing skills(or lack of). As ACE mentioned the Shark changes his tenses several times during sentences. That should be embarrassing for a man that constantly wants to remind all of us just how smart a guy he really is.
12.28.2012 | Unregistered Commenterol Harv
Ol Harv, cut him some slack on the English, as we all know it's his second language. He is Australian, after all.
12.28.2012 | Unregistered CommenterWritten Off
He's more American than Australian.
12.29.2012 | Unregistered CommenterMatthewM
Chuck, you don't notice some irony telling Greg to stand up for the old course while he is trying to stand up for his own course.it sounds like most of you stamp your feet at changes to golf courses in general and now you attack Greg for doing it himself
I bet when a journeyman like geoff Ogilvy does the same thing in ten years you will be on his side.
12.29.2012 | Unregistered Commentercypress
Pete is clearly on the same page as Greg.
I'd guess the second letter was written without consultation or discussion with neither an English teacher nor an editor.
12.29.2012 | Unregistered CommenterCBell
How does one "respectfully demand" anything? Seems odds bodkins to me.
12.29.2012 | Unregistered Commenterthebigdad
Hell, I can't even read. "Respectively demand". Sorry,, I swallowed a bug. I will refrain from further stupidity.
12.29.2012 | Unregistered Commenterthebigdad
Oh My, haven't become a website filled tut-tutiting, Mrs. Kravitz-style moralists! He has been divorced once or twice? How dare he speak up for himself! The NERVE! And being Number One in the world for 6 years isn't good enough, you must write to the exacting standards of basement-dwelling, website fanboys as well. Who knew?

I was able to understand that Greg just wrote a note to an expensive golf community that gains much financial benefit from their association with Greg Norman and Pete Dye. And Greg Just told them mark down the value of their real estate a little bit.

A business school professor once said the politics in academia are so brutal because the stakes are so low. That holds true for country clubs as well.
12.29.2012 | Unregistered CommenterCypress
@ Geoff or others - is Greg Norman correct that it is considered to be appropriate to consult with the original designers (if they are alive or still in business I presume) whenever a new party is brought in for a renovation ? Would that obligation be especially relevant if, as Norman indicates, the original designers were currently active in the club and provide regular, pro-bono work on behalf of the club ? I have no axe to grind with Norman (as many above seem to), nor do I care about his writing style or anyone's opinions on it, but it seems to me that his ire is justified. If we substituted the name Ben Crenshaw for Greg Norman would the response on this site be similar given the same facts ?
12.29.2012 | Unregistered CommenterBrianS
Adios Club...the nicest, smoothest, fastest bermuda greens in existence.
12.29.2012 | Unregistered CommenterBobby D
Brian, You miss the point. Ben Crenshaw wouldn't write a note like that. That's what makes GN perfect for attack. Crenshaw doesn't take himself anywhere near as serious as Norman does. He has become a pathetic figure because of his high regard that he holds of himself. That's the difference between the two.
12.29.2012 | Unregistered Commenterstick
I know in my business that when i am about to beat out a competitor for business he's had a lock on for 19 years, the first thing i do is tell him while he has a chance to take the business away from me. I think i learned that from the "shark's 69 ways to win in business" or some other "iam genius at management best-seller"
12.29.2012 | Unregistered Commentersmails
Oh yeah, and "smoothest bermuda" is like "reinstated virgin"
12.29.2012 | Unregistered Commentersmails
judge smails...you wouldn't believe how smooth those greens are...like a baby's bottom....great golf course, but I doubt you could get on.
12.29.2012 | Unregistered CommenterBobby D
@smails - sure, and if that competitor was one of your original investors and had done free work for you all these years, then he will feel that you screwed him over, which you probably just did. So this is the result.
12.29.2012 | Unregistered CommenterBrianS
Hmm....I see The Medalist files 990's on a regular basis, just maybe I will dig into a few of those ;-)

Having said that, the first thing that jumps out at me is the "mission statement" as transcribed word for word from the most recent 990:

"To bind members together by a common objective directed at pleasure and recreation."

So how they doin?
12.29.2012 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
OK, now I'm just getting laughs with the posts, and the newbie who would be moderator and starter...getting pretty funny, and a bit sad.
12.29.2012 | Unregistered Commenterdigsouth
Mudd's first name is De. Joe Smith. De Mudd.
12.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
De Mudd's first name is actually Donald but he goes by De as long as I've known him.
12.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterBignorth
Joe Smith's first name is Joseph, but he's always gone by Joe.
12.30.2012 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
Bignorth, don't you know the rules on this site? Don't ever correct DTF, even if you are correct and are innocently letting him know. He does not like to be corrected, it apparently embarrasses him, thus the rude reply to your informative answer.
12.30.2012 | Unregistered Commenterskippy
skippy, guess you didn't read the Phil/Padres thread did ya?!? Chill mon, it's all in good fun ;)

Bignorth, that's good color, tx. Any other insights?
12.31.2012 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
Just bustin' your chops almighty lord of all information. HNY.
12.31.2012 | Unregistered Commenterskippy
Sounds like somewhere along the way some egos may have gotten hurt. Unfortunate as it sounds like it had a supportive membership with some cool "jocks" as members which always adds to the allure of a club. Running into an ex NFL player in the mens grill is bonus points for a guest at a private club.
01.1.2013 | Unregistered Commenterol Harv
idea that greg norman put dollar one into Medalist is laughable.
01.1.2013 | Unregistered Commentersmails
Proves that "Benevolant Dictatorship" and minimal tinkering is the way to go. This latest letter from a former member shines more light on Greg (and as a golfer, I'm one of his biggest fans...ever! Person...uh...meh not-so-much anymore)


The idea of a firm, flat, tough off the tee course is what attracted a cool group of members...only ego would make one mess with the recipe. It's been done at my home club a few times...change for the sake of change and/or esthetics. A waste of time and money in the end because people just want to get out for a hit once in awhile.
01.2.2013 | Unregistered Commenterjohnnnycz
Johnny, good point, when you have a cool membership the golf course is important but not the sole reason people stay. Was once a member of a club where the course was neglected and everyone bitched but no one left because we all enjoyed eachother.
01.2.2013 | Unregistered Commenterol Harv
Just for everybody's information the greens complexs at The Medalist are NOT USGA spec variety which made the maintenance aspect of the Club quite a ride. That fact alone would be the decision maker on any kind of rebuild. In regards to the GN1 fairways I don't care what you do, you'll never rid the Club of the species (I don't care what you try... check the driving range)... the roots are well over a foot long on the fairways... should you apply heavy cultural practices and mow very low they would actually play great, particularly in the cool months (golf season) when they exhibit great color and very good playability. When it gets real cold check out neighboring fairways and check out the Medalist... usually quite a contrast. Should we have temperate/hot weather they do tend to over grow and become a burrden to maintain properly..

In regards to Mr Norman's postion on all this I think should you ever be in his shoes you'd most likely have authored a similar response. Although I'm sure Mr. Norman could have spent some more time managing the Club he was a fine employer and very personable to the staff. Mrs. Norman (Laura) was also very gracious to the staff.

The current BOD's are trying to build a Bears Club out of the Medalist and it is being led by a distinct minority. When Buddy packs his bags the Medalist will be officially over in my eyes. I'm willing to bet they will be open for Christmas from now on.
01.4.2013 | Unregistered Commenteremployee
This clubs been on the down and out for a while now. The problem is when C Harmon was president and started undermining the Professional staff as well as Greg and his ideologies. Don't let Mr. Harmon fool you either as he can be seen most Sunday nights at the water way three sheets in the wind trying to hit on some ladies he could get only if he paid for it. Their has been a small group of men that have tried to undermine Greg and all that he's done. The club was founded with the idea of being able to play pure golf with little or no rules? As for Mr. Lewis goes, well he's another cheap Jew that couldn't of kissed Greg's ass anymore than that of the short Jew he is. His wife is smoking hot and probably thinks he's a good boy down at the Club! I'm surprised he's so interested in the course because I know he has sure made good use out of the cottages on property. Ie, bachelor party with strippers, hookers, and I think the grips on the clubs might have been a little sticky the next morning. A hypocrite is a hypocrite no matter how much money you have. You should always be nice to everyone because you never know when it'll come back around but it will always come back around.
02.16.2013 | Unregistered CommenterBeen gone

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