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Wednesday
Dec182013

Revamped Trump Doral Re-Opens For Play

The Blue Monster is back! Again!

Bill Van Smith previewed the reinvigorated Trump National Doral for the Miami Herald, which opened to public play last Saturday after its latest facelift.

Gil Hanse and Jim Wagner oversaw the redo for The Donald who, shockingly, had his usual ridiculous praise, including a "nothing like it in golf."

“It’s a brand-new course, not a re-do,” Trump said after finishing his round. “We felt it was just an amazing piece of land that we could do something spectacular with, and we built a new Blue Monster. It’s a bigger course with bigger lakes. It’s a more spectacular course.

“The old Blue Monster was a good course, but this is better. There is nothing like this in golf.

“I had a great time playing it.”

The green fee is, gulp, $450.

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Reader Comments (36)

$450? That's UUUUGE.
12.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterMike U
Trump can clean it up and make it look prettier all he wants, but it's still a Florida course that looks little different than most of the other 1300 or so courses down there that can be played for a mere fraction of that expense.
12.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterPA PLAYA
The Donald has substituted his standard "unbelievable" with "spectacular".......Unbelievable.
12.18.2013 | Unregistered Commenterol Harv
Most money I've payed for a game of golf was 300 bucks a few months ago at Royal County Down. Worth every damn cent and then some. Something's a bit screwed up when people pay 400+ for a course in Florida
12.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterIan B
While it lasts, don't miss the ad below the article for "700% muscle-building supplement." Perfect photo to accompany anything said by The Donald.
12.18.2013 | Unregistered Commenter3foot1
This Trump guy really believes that bigger is better... Even in golf course architecture. As tacky as they can get
12.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterAlex
I played this course back in 1997 and it was a fun, flat Florida course in great shape. I think I paid $125 which included free re-plays and I thought that was extremely steep.

I cannot fathom spending $450 on any course, anywhere, save the top 10 courses in the world. It's just insane and my guess is that the only people playing there will be businessmen playing on the company dime and Asian tourists who have no taste when it comes to golf.
12.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterChris from DE
"Asian tourists who have no taste when it comes to golf..."

As compared to the impeccably-styled retirees and the glittering trailer-parks littered through the state. Yes, Asian tourists, come look at Disney World for an example of true taste and class from these wonderful and welcoming Americans. Leave the money. Get back on the plane. Thanks for coming.

Jingo
12.18.2013 | Unregistered Commenternevermind
I (or I should say my company) just shelled out $250/person for an outing at the Boca Raton Club, a very pretty and pleasant, but basically non-descript from a golf perspective. Would it be worth $200 more to do a famous course that is used on the PGA Tour each year ? Not on our budget, but maybe somebody's ? But my main point is that you need to look at the margin vs comparable South Florida resorts and not just on the high rate.
12.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterBrianS
Nobody is gonna pay $450 to play that course. Looks nice.....about $80 nice.

I think the $450 is kind of like the sticker price on a car, just a place to start the negotiations ;)

Out of curiosity I went to the website and tried to book a teetime, website is not functional. (but it did include some verbiage not seen before, they are selling something called the "Caddie Experience"....shoot me;)
12.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
On the bright side, anyone paying $450 to play that course is likely to have the course to themselves.
12.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterBrad Ford
$450 will also get you dinner and wine at Per Se. Or just dinner at Masa (no drinks).

Or a ticket to see the Rolling Stones play.

Or season tickets for LSU football in Death Valley.
Seriously how awful was that article? Massive PR puff piece.
12.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterAndy
It is OK to pay a premium to play a course that will be on TV every year..........one time.
Does trumps wife think bigger is better or just bigger?
Where's Bob Parsons when you need him?
12.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterD. maculata
From Wiki: In economics, a Veblen good is a member of a group of commodities whose demand is proportional to their price; a reversal of the law of demand.

Let's see how this works out.
12.18.2013 | Unregistered Commenter3foot1
Not one mention of Gil and Jim in the article- absolutely awful.
12.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterKC
You can play Wentworth West for 2/3 of that price.
12.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterChris Campbell
Good retort Jingo.
12.18.2013 | Unregistered Commentergc
I can get ya'll on Rockbottum CC . . . $10 to walk 18. It's just easier to tell your wife you paid $10 instead of $450, especially if you'd like to play golf again.
12.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterLudell Hogwaller
For courses that have an elevation change of 10 feet or less, Doral doesn't even make my top five. Good luck, Donald.
12.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterRgw
There is no golf course worth $450 .....
12.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterJohn T
There is no golf -- including Seminole -- worth $450 in the state of FLA. But heck, you can play both courses at World Woods for $100, and I'll guarantee they are better than Doral, even if Gil Hanse worked on it.
12.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterRobert Thompson
Pebble Beach and Pinehurst #2 prices for Doral?! -- hardly in their league even if they are over priced as well. The Donald is obviously selling the sizzle not the steak! If the hotel is not in any better shape than it was two years ago, then the price of golf will cripple them. Mediocre at best.

@ Ol Harv +1 I can name 10 course in Pinehurst that I would play before Doral.

@ Robert Thompson I will take the $100 for 2 rounds at WW with you all day long, and twice on Sunday over any course at Doral!
Doral back in the day was a nice place to go to with a group of 8 guys who needed relief from the winter cold up north. Now, like so many of the big-time iconic resorts, they have all sold their soul to Corporate America. They should have learned that the only people who can afford $450 green fees are the ultra rich and corporations wining and dining customers and co-workers. Have been very lucky to have frequented places like Pinehurst Resort, The Greenbrier, Homestead, The Cloister. Back in the day they catered to individuals and smaller golf groups. When times got good, they brushed them aside and went for the home run, and I realize it is a homes run in terms of money as I have friends who have shared just what a good sized corporate group means in terms of money. But all of the resorts I listed struggled mightily when corporate America reigned in the spending. By then, the loyal golf groups who got turned away because of the corporate outings, vowed to never return. And even if they wanted to return, the price was so jacked up they couldn't afford it.
12.18.2013 | Unregistered Commenterol Harv
Here's the thing. Miami has become an other-worldly place for ultra high income elites. I watched a short piece on the real estate market there and it's like nothing else anywhere. The agent talked about the types of clients and the amount of money being spent on homes and condos etc and the amount of demand. It was hard to believe. I think more people will shell out the $450 than you think. Not saying that's a good thing, just sayin.

@ Chris from DE, do you mean the Asian tourists who hold the mortgage on the USA?
12.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterPress Agent
There are many ways to describe land in south Florida. "Amazing piece of land" is not one of them.
12.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterKS
You'd have to be a MORON to think that Doral isn't worth the $450 per round. The Donald is involved. Also, he'll probably allow you get the first tee time of the day and play in 2.5 hours unlike that moronic, and more expensive, golf course out west.
12.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterIt's Pat!
I agree with most of the above, I visited Doral with some buddies a few years back on a package deal, it was reasonably priced. Played the monster twice. It always looked so great on TV from those elevated cameras but in person it's just "good". Some fine holes but not a course I could describe as a "must play" or even "should play". I am sure Gil has improved it but its still very very flat.
12.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterKG
still looks flat, wet, and lined with palm trees

what am i missing here
12.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterMatt Cambro
Harv, I think you are being kind with the "struggled mightily" characterization....heck, other than Pinehurst every one of those place went completely into the sheetayre! Buncha morons...
12.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
As much as I like FL and the warm weather, it always felt and looked like nothing but a huge expanse of pavement&airconditioning once you crossed the GA/FL state line on I-95.

450 bucks for ANY course is almost the same as burning your wallet in public...unless they're throwing in a RocketBallzzz driver or something along those lines of garish-ness. It is The Donald's place afterall.
12.19.2013 | Unregistered Commenterjohnnnycz
Press Agent-

Yes.

And it was a joke. Lighten up everybody.
12.19.2013 | Unregistered CommenterChris from DE
DTF, many don't know that The Homestead has actually shut down the lower Cascades course. Overgrown with weeds. Hard to believe and sad. The Cascades Inn, where golf groups could go stay in a more casual atmosphere has trees growing out of the windows and looks like a haunted house.
12.19.2013 | Unregistered Commenterol Harv
Yup Harv, sad situation...
12.20.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF

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