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Thursday
Apr182013

Eroding Support For Some Of Old Course Phase Two Work?

Steve Scott reports that the Old Course changes still so adored by the locals, may not see some of phase two play out next winter because greenkeeper Gordon Moir may put a halt to Martin Hawtree's grotesque idea of introducing "broken ground" to the sacred ground.

Quoting the Links Trust's Euan London:

“We’ve only done two experimental areas beside two and seven, and the greenkeepers are not convinced that this is a clever thing to do, even if the architect thinks it is,” he said.

“Gordon Moir and his staff have a view about these things. We’ll get to the end of the summer and a season’s worth of growth on this broken ground and if we don’t like it, we’ll say to (the R&A) that we shouldn’t do this.”

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Reader Comments (17)

Gordon is a first-class individual, and a fine player too IMHO. Having spent some time with him touring TOC and the under-construction Castle course in 2006, I am sure he's got the best interests of the TOC in mind.

As far as the local men's clubs this quote leaves me dumbfounded, “They’re good players and in their medals they were finding the course a bit easy at times, and I think some people found that hard to swallow.”

Once again, someone is tearing up a great old course because "good players" think it's too easy.

Screw-em and everyone like them.

K
04.18.2013 | Unregistered Commenterkenoneputt
Good!
04.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterChico
I am SOOO tired of the anchoring rage (not even rhetoric, at times). Let's keep our eye on the ball here, people. The reason many of us joined this community over the years. This site started out (from my perspective) with lots of talk about architecture, the history of the game, and the effects of technology on those things.

Broomsticks and belly putters didn't necessitate the changes that make this horrid story even exist. The Old Course wasn't changed because of putters that some people find offensive. It's the long ball and drivers, and equipment that did it.

Focus, folks. Please.
04.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterPete the Luddite
Pete isn't a Luddite after all. Introducing new broken ground on the TOC (does the area between the 8th tee and green qualify?) is a new one on me and does sound like Hawtree is going too far.
04.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterIvan Morris
I've never played in Scotland and the term 'broken ground' is unfamiliar to me. Could someone explain it? Tha ks.
04.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterBrad
Ivan,

Thanks for the post. To be clear, I am aghast at the changes to TOC. I gave myself the handle here as PTL over 10 years ago now, I think. That was back when we all talked about turf, green speed, grass cutting and agronomy, and architecture. The evolution to the current focus on anchoring and other technology is interesting, although the discussions have gotten stale.

Am I a Luddite for golf? No, along with my fellow Shack-ians, I use a metal driver, newer technology irons and balls, and even a broomstick putter. Note: I DON"T anchor against the body. It helps minimize the effect of tremors in one arm and is the only reason for the switch. If I could make my right arm listen to me on slow strokes (putting, chipping), I would stay with my trusty old Odyssey putter. :)

For TOC modifications, check out older threads here from several months back when the earthworks were started without fanfare or much notice. Sad to see that happen to such a great piece of golf history.
04.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterPete the Luddite
Greetings to Pete the Luddite from a fellow golf nut (with the trophy to prove it!) I guess I am more of a Luddite than you because I occasionally play with hickories. Normally, though. I pIay with a putter that's 15-years old, a set of irons and fairway metals about the same but I keep right up to date with my driver, currently the TiItleist 913D3. Swing smooth and harrumph the begrudgers!
04.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterIvan Morris
Ivan. Just for you, I will play with my beloved persimmon woods this weekend. The beautiful sound is worth the loss of distance. :)
04.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterPete the Luddite
Please God, stop the changes. Roll back the ones just finished.
04.18.2013 | Unregistered Commenterotey
"I don't try to describe the future. I try to prevent it."
-Ray Bradbury
04.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterKLG
KLG quoting right wingers? Now I can die happily!
04.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterBrad S
Brad, I think broken ground means rough....
04.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterNosoup4u72
The 'broken ground' referred to on 2, is surely the undulations they've added to the right side of the green?

Agree it's not entirely clear what he means.
04.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterBelowPar
Without cracking a golf dictionary, one might infer 'broken ground' to mean excavated or freshly exposed earth. Think farmer ripping with a tractor. Hopefully, one of our beloved GCAs or GCSs can clarify that it actually has to do with grass growing, but considering the recent antics of our buddies, mssrs Dawson and Hawtree (Yogi Bear and Boo Boo), I wouldn't be surprised if their idea of improvement is to make an area of the linksland unplayable. Phase III will consist of lining the fairways with gum trees (eucalyptus).
04.18.2013 | Unregistered CommenterUbb
Brad ... rest easy. I've played golf in Scotland all of my life and I haven't a clue what they're talking about!(lol)
Brad +10 ;-)
04.20.2013 | Unregistered CommenterKLG
Stop the carnage, plesae! Next thing youj know they will be planting Bradford Pears to separate #1 & #18 fairways! YIKES!

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