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Monday
May062013

Notably Absent From The Latest Trump Announcement...

...is mention of a golf course architect for his newly announced project in Dubai.

Of course, what took so long to get The Donald to the Middle East is the only true mystery in this.

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Maybe he can hire TW and Tiger will get to 'finish" his desire to have a designed course in the dunes!
05.6.2013 | Unregistered CommenterTheProfromDover
Well, I think I can speak for everyone in saying I hope it's the Donald himself.
Sad to see such a talent hiding his light under a bushel.
05.6.2013 | Unregistered Commenterdbh
Hanse for the Doral re-do

Doak in VA

no annc for Dubai

is there trouble in the Fazio/trump paradise?
05.6.2013 | Unregistered Commentersmails
Smails, Doak in VA? Did I miss this change over the weekend?
I just watched "You've Been Trumped." Any decent golf architect who saw it would never work with this pompous prat.

His lack of concern for people, and that of his revoltinbg cipher of a son, comes from his own mouth, not what others have to say about him.
05.6.2013 | Unregistered CommenterGhillie
It's C&C in Virginia, not Doak.
05.6.2013 | Unregistered CommenterJSS
Nice oneTrump - everyone here in the region is laughing over this proposal.

With the slowdown from the pace of five-years ago and with so many ex-pats who have left there region, there is way too much over-capacity with the courses as it is. The Jumeirah Earth course no offers riduclous deals just to get people to sign up for annual memberships (they initually wanted to be fully private). The neigbouring Fire course is nomrally empty. The Emirates Club hasn't had a waiting list for a few years now for memberships. All of the courses are offering daily deal specials of one type or another. And now Trump want to join this parade? The economy here probably has another 5-10 years of slack in it.

Even his hotel on the Palm Jumeirah Island is doing the shits.

Whatever.
05.6.2013 | Unregistered CommenterAbu Dhabi Golfer
5-10 is a large range, and some might argue that 5 is conservative...anyway, if the world economy does come back and we don't simply spiral down into a chaos that results in the end of the human race, the people buying and building now will be laughing all the way to the bank.
05.6.2013 | Unregistered CommenterPress Agent
Why would he not mention the architect? Very strange unless he wants to build some PR and excitement.

Abu Dhabi Golfer, are any of those course interesting in terms of architecture. To me on TV, they look very bland. No doubt they are in great condition and have waterfalls, but it's tee to greens fairway and generally flat. Since they have so much sand, why not try and build faux sand dunes?
05.6.2013 | Unregistered CommenterJSS
JSS - I would argue that the Emirates Majlis course (where they hold the Dubai Desert Classic) has some architectural merit. Although it appears flat on TV, there is close to 100 ft of elevation change from the highpoint of the course at the 8th green to the low points which are irrigation resevoirs. It was built when there was no developement in the area, so the architect had free reign.

The courses at Jumeirah (Earth & Fire) have a few hundered feet of elevation change since the development rests on a hill. However, the Greg Norman layouts don't have much more achitectural value that you average Jack Nicklaus course. Abu Dhabi Golf Club and Doha Golf Club are the others in the region that do have decent architectural merit.

With respect to faux sand dunes, they would blow aways in a couple of months. The sand is more like baking flour in this region and even a light wind will lift it airborne. The some of the courses have packed sand on a hard base, but there is no loose sand. Generally, the courses avoid loose sand - the Earth Course actually has red barkmulch as an alternative which keeps the dust levels down a bit.
05.6.2013 | Unregistered CommenterAbu Dhabi Golfer
Still reveling ADG?
05.6.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
Heard it is same property as TW course- maybe resurrecting those plans?
05.6.2013 | Unregistered CommenterKC
I agree DBH, I think The Donald himself should design the next "unbelievable" course. In his mind he thinks he probably knows more than the rest of the architects anyway.
05.6.2013 | Unregistered Commenterol Harv
He has an architect. Curious why he didn't share who.
05.6.2013 | Unregistered CommenterIan Andrew
@ Ol HARV, that would be to funny. Then TD would have no one to yell at. I was being sarcastic when I mentioned TW. Dubai is not be enough for those two egos to be there at the same time.
KC - it is on the same property as the Woods course which has been reclaimed by the desert.

One of the aspects that hurt the Tiger Woods project is the location. It is off the beaten track in that it is not near any of the freeways. The single lane roads in that area are choked with trucks. It is also as far as you can get from the water in Dubai. It is essentially in the Arabian Desert. It is hard to describe how miserable it is out there about 15 miles and half an hour without traffic from the beaches. The usual conditions at Jumeirah are bad enough and not helping that development. When you look at where the Trump course is going to be, you shudder at the amount of airborne sand on a normal day. Anything you build out there will be immediately covered in a sheen of light orange dust. And the view out to the desert is foreboding.

There is a project on the way out to the old Woods site called Dubai Green Community, about five mile before you get there. It is nice and all, but already too dusty and dirty to appeal to those with money to spend on real estate.

Also, there is tons of real estate closer to the water AND on the water. Supply is abundant. As a result, five years ago, there was almost no interest in the Tiger Woods project. There won't be any now despite Trump's involvement.
05.6.2013 | Unregistered CommenterAbu Dhabi Golfer
Very interesting insights ADG. Thanks!
05.7.2013 | Unregistered CommenterChris from DE
"Castles made of sand
slip into the sea
eventually"
05.7.2013 | Unregistered CommenterRLL
Its me!I'm doing it!!My fountain team are on high alert.I have designed 18 variations of the combover-its going to be the greatest course in the world.Ever!!
05.7.2013 | Unregistered Commenterchico

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