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Wednesday
Jul312013

Jack Nicklaus Golf Club Korea And Its Mounds Land '15 Prez Cup

Look at those mounds! And that width!

The description from the press release announcing the 2015 Presidents Cup venue selected by the PGA Tour:

Jack Nicklaus Golf Club Korea features a par-72, 7,413-yard Signature Golf Course designed by the Golden Bear, and offers world-class amenities, including an award-winning, 60,000-square-foot clubhouse. For The Presidents Cup 2015, the course has undergone some minor renovations and the holes rerouted to accommodate hospitality and the match-play format. Songdo IBD is a joint undertaking by Gale International, POSCO E&C, and Incheon City and a model of international collaboration. Songdo IBD is globally recognized as the world’s foremost smart, sustainable city-scale development. In 2012, the Green Climate Fund (GCF) selected a site in Songdo as the home for the GCF Secretariat.  It is believed that many of the sustainable infrastructure and technological innovations being pioneered in Songdo will be applied to GCF-funded projects in developing nations. 

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Reader Comments (19)

I have no idea if this location or course is worthy of the Cup, but considering the last Int'l events have been:
Australia
Canada
S.Africa
Australia

It seems a trip to either Korea or Japan was in order.
07.31.2013 | Unregistered CommenterBrianS
Looks almost as natural as Liberty National!
07.31.2013 | Unregistered Commenterreef
Ha! That's quite the 'beauty' shot there! Looks great for motocross!
07.31.2013 | Unregistered Commenterdbh
Can't WAIT to hear what happens when someone offers Bubba Watson some kimchee.
07.31.2013 | Unregistered CommenterShort Knocker
Not a bad golf course, just not the best views. Overall for logistics and eveything it was probably the best choice. There are some really nice courses in Korea but most of them either don't have the room for corporate tents and spectators or are out in the middle of nowhere.
07.31.2013 | Unregistered CommenterTim P
This seems like a natural to me as well. To my knowledge, there aren't any old gems in the region that would have worked better for a big event. I was searching around for what Gil and Jim had done over there when I saw this post and all I could find was that they had worked there. Would love to see Geoff's thoughts on the great courses of Korea and Japan. I would assume Coore/Crenshaw have worked there was well.

On a side note, the funky Nicklaus greens are what keep me away from Angeles National here in LA. It's just so fake and gimmicky. Give me a redan any day.
07.31.2013 | Unregistered CommenterMike U
I am not good enough to judge a course by looking at one picture.
ahhhh, the ol' manufactured natural look. Yeah, that's look about right. Some things never change. Took me right back to the 90's!
"The ProV1 made me design this."
-Jack
07.31.2013 | Unregistered CommenterShady golf
A bit of an LPGA move.
07.31.2013 | Unregistered Commentertlavin
reef, that's exactly what came to mind for me as well!

Given the the PGA Tour schedule is heavily back-loaded these days I wonder how long it will be until some players of note decline to play?
07.31.2013 | Unregistered CommenterDTF
YUCK. Valhalla + Liberty National = this monstrosity. Guess those meetings with Doak were pretty short in duration.
07.31.2013 | Unregistered Commentervwgolfer
hey - can someone explain to me why most of the courses in Japan and Korea have two greens for each hole? Is it so they can alternate greens due to heavy traffic or some other reason I can't comprehend?

Look at google maps of courses around Seoul and Tokyo. Strange, no?
08.1.2013 | Unregistered CommenterChris from DE
Chris, I believe in the old days it was for winter and summer. Summer greens were Zoysia and winter greens were Bent. When I was in Korea from 2009-2012 I saw very few Zoysia/Bent greens in Korea, most were both bent and rotated for traffic
08.1.2013 | Unregistered CommenterTim P
Thanks Tim!
08.1.2013 | Unregistered CommenterChris from DE
@Chris - in Japan the summer greens tends to be Korai grass which is able to survive the heat and humidity - it had less grain than Bermuda, but it is a bit like putting on a bristle pad. As a result, it used to be in vogue to build a second green with bent grass for the cooler months.

That said, over the last few decades, most of the new courses have just gone with one set of greens. And, many of the classic course from the 1930's, like Kawana, just have a single set of Korai greens.
08.1.2013 | Unregistered CommenterAbu Dhabi Golfer
He makes it flat - he's terrible. He makes it with mounds - equally as terrible. I dislike Jack designs as much as the next fellow (Nicklaus course at PGA west made me throw up a little bit in my mouth) but let's hear from somebody who has actually played the damn thing! Maybe he pulled off something decent here with the land he was given?
08.1.2013 | Unregistered CommenterPGT
PGT I haven't played the course but have been on site several times during construction, grow-in and just before the first senior PGA tournament. FYI the entire city of Songdo is reclaimed from the sea and is flat as a pancake. Plus, if you have worked in Asia you probably know how much the owners affect the final outcome of the design. Lots of politics and lots of infighting.
Rumor had it that the PGA thought the had an agreement with another course before the announcement and said course pulled out. Like I said before, there a several courses that the PGA was looking at but when you look at parking, spectator access, corporate tents, proximity to hotel rooms and airport and course design. JNGC Korea was probably the best choice.
The main question will be will the Koreans listen to the PGA agronomists??
08.1.2013 | Unregistered CommenterTim P
@dbh and Shady: +2 to ya both...LOL!!!


That Korean course does looks very "curvaceous". Were the Korean big-shot developers influenced by their exotic dancer preferences or something?

Appears to me that they like em "Big and bouncy with lots of curves that never stop"
08.1.2013 | Unregistered Commenterjohnnnycz

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